Traps are carrying "top tier" decks AND players

[Kero Kero]

https://duellinks.konami.net/att/033c670e0f17807a4f223463e65a5a049dd593d87c
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The Shiranui have no business being in the meta top tier. The deck is carried SO stupidly hard by it's trap cards even me playing a BUDGET Karakuri deck AND making a misplay can still show it up.

SO apparently that's how the meta works now. Over reliance on powerful traps lol
I realize this isn't exactly new information but someone has to start saying it out loud, take away their traps these zombies ain't ♥♥♥♥.

That's for all the people harping on me about "crying" over the shira players in my turbo duel post even though what I was talking about had literally nothing to do with this deck being so prevalent.

[Prokaizer]

Цитата допису メイドの召喚獣ーレイ:

Цитата допису Prokaizer:

I find it funny when you type 5 letters to call me kaizer instead of typing 3 to call me pro :)

You keep bragging about being an TCG judge a lot of times in your posts but let me tell you something we don't care friend.
Because where you live they organising tournaments and you participated in few of them that doesn't qualify you as a better player in Duel Links.

My post about coin flip was 100% accurate.

You gotta learn to get over yourself. I don't brag about being a judge, I mention it when necessary. And a few tournaments? Please. I've been to many YCS events all over the world and yes, my knowledge of the game inherently makes me a better player in duel links than some casual player whose playing yugioh for the first time through duel links or someone like you who THINKS they're top tier.

You are a little spoiled brat.
You got mad because another person listened to a nobody prokaizer and he did not listen to a nerd TCG judge like you.
You literally bragged about it 2 times in your recent posts.
1st time "hey why you listening to prokaizer and not me? I am a judge i deserve attention!" 2nd time "Please i've been in many events in ALL OVER THE WORLD and my knowledge is greater than any of you including Prokaizer".
Let me tell you something one more time, we don't give a flying frog how many times you participated and where.
A kai pou'se kopria prove me wrong that the duel is not decided from the coin flip palio psonara.

[Kero Kero]

Цитата допису Prokaizer:

Цитата допису Ready for Battle!:

also if you think that's all I do then you really must be new here. Only times I have to say any of the things you list is when somebody is complaining about nothing, just like what Keero does complain over nothing.

Stop pretending that you are the good guy over here.

You literally mocked me because i mistyped the number "5" instead of "6" in my keyboard.

From this action alone we can see a lot about your character.
DeathDweller was right about you.

I do not complain over nothing, trust me there are far more asinine complaints on this forum than what I talk about. You ALL know this game is majorly flawed you just don't want to admit it because you know the moment you do all the time and money( whales spend ) will have been a waste.

[Tunnel Sharks Rule!!!]

Цитата допису Prokaizer:

Цитата допису Ready for Battle!:

also if you think that's all I do then you really must be new here. Only times I have to say any of the things you list is when somebody is complaining about nothing, just like what Keero does complain over nothing.

Stop pretending that you are the good guy over here.

You literally mocked me because i mistyped the number "5" instead of "6" in my keyboard.

From this action alone we can see a lot about your character.
DeathDweller was right about you.

Lol please explain how pointing it out is considered mocking. Also never claimed to be any good guy, I did claim he is dead wrong and whining though which he clearly is

Plus he isn't right about me in fact he clearly doesn't bother knowing anything about me, neither do you but for some reason you claim as though you do, in all reality it's cause i'm not nice to either of you and I have no real reason to

[Tunnel Sharks Rule!!!]

Цитата допису EXO:

The amount of salt is insane

Yeah it's always salty in a Keero topic, the main salts are usually Keero cause he always whines, Pro cause he can't handle jokes, and Death who gives bad anything really

[Tunnel Sharks Rule!!!]

Цитата допису Keero Kamiya:

Цитата допису Prokaizer:

Stop pretending that you are the good guy over here.

You literally mocked me because i mistyped the number "5" instead of "6" in my keyboard.

From this action alone we can see a lot about your character.
DeathDweller was right about you.

I do not complain over nothing, trust me there are far more asinine complaints on this forum than what I talk about. You ALL know this game is majorly flawed you just don't want to admit it because you know the moment you do all the time and money( whales spend ) will have been a waste.

You do complain over nothing, in fact rn you are complaining over nothing. Also wtf are you even talking about, we have constantly said this game is flawed, just nobody is going to bother complaining about something that's a staple in Yugioh and making baseless accusations. Also haven't spent any money on this game so there goes that argument

[arenero]

Цитата допису Keero Kamiya:

Цитата допису aerials:

Owh archetype traps? They just run 2 Chash Inn and maybe 1 copy of their counter trap and that's it, the rest of their backrow is full of Floodgates, Canadias, Fiendish Chain and Karma Cut. And Invoked without traps would not be meta at all, not in the way it is played at least, so what are you even talking about? You know nothing about the state of the game lol

Yes which proves my whole point. The Karakuri have SOME spells and traps unique to them which is more than the other decks mentioned can say.
The rest is just the deck being carried by the other traps like everything else. If Konami wants us to be invested in these decks they need to support the decks not just make the monsters and say "here make something of these trashy effects" because that's when decks get passed on. and when the effects are actually decent , but the monsters have no archetypal support , what do we get ? Stale meta game where every opening and every win is dependent on "set floodgate, set karma, set fiendish". Maybe if YOU pulled your head outta the meta's ass for a second you'd be able to recognize that.

Dude I said the game has been like this for almost the entire year, not that you were wrong lmao You just happen to complain about this now, after 11 months, knowing you complain about everything it took you a while to cry about this

[Dr. Raven]

Dunno know about that, chief. If you get rid of the popular staple traps, I could see only a couple decks dominating the meta with virtually zero counterplay. One could argue that's what it already is, but there is some counterplay to current meta king. Feels like the choice to nerf staple traps would force out any creativity, or lead to a ban/limit on said decks.


Fact is even a garbage deck like mine(I use a weird silent swordsman/DD warrior deck) can thrive in this heavy trap meta(admittedly by silent sword slash countering harsh traps), but would be virtually unplayable my deck if the staple traps didn't exist or were harshly nerfed and it was just synchro or future xyz dominating the space. As I wouldn't have an answer to the enemy's ten minute synchro tirade half the time.

[Ayurai]

so.. are you crying cause traps are useful.. cool.

[Papa Shekels]

> my meta deck destroyed the other meta deck, meta is trash

these are some deep revelations we are coming to here

[Kero Kero]

Цитата допису bmrjkt90:

The sad thing is, Konami doesn't seem to want to nerf traps or they would've nerfed the skill, Endless Trap Hell. Anyways, here's a YT video talking about the problem of heavy backrow meta https://youtu.be/RH_bn8VFhJE

Surprise surprise I'm not the only one who sees this issue

[Kero Kero]

Цитата допису Papa Shekels:

> my meta deck destroyed the other meta deck, meta is trash

these are some deep revelations we are coming to here

My deck is hardly meta, the meta version runs 3 Kumanzan I have ONE
3 merchants, I have 2. 3 Nininshi , I have 2. That's my point, a budget deck that's even KINDA decent beats this all poweerful shira crap if the shira don't lean on ballista, karma, flood, canadia, and everything else they have such generic access to.

[Kero Kero]

Цитата допису Ayurai:

so.. are you crying cause traps are useful.. cool.

Since you're too dumb to get it yourself, It's the difference between "Useful" and "Game winning on use" because it pairs with the combos of "here's my big-ass beater monster I can summon super duper easy that also has destruction protection and targeting protection"

[Kero Kero]

Цитата допису Dr. Raven:

Dunno know about that, chief. If you get rid of the popular staple traps, I could see only a couple decks dominating the meta with virtually zero counterplay. One could argue that's what it already is, but there is some counterplay to current meta king. Feels like the choice to nerf staple traps would force out any creativity, or lead to a ban/limit on said decks.


Fact is even a garbage deck like mine(I use a weird silent swordsman/DD warrior deck) can thrive in this heavy trap meta(admittedly by silent sword slash countering harsh traps), but would be virtually unplayable my deck if the staple traps didn't exist or were harshly nerfed and it was just synchro or future xyz dominating the space. As I wouldn't have an answer to the enemy's ten minute synchro tirade half the time.

Well you're thinking about it from a very small scope. Like you said YOUR deck IS very niche so losing a specific use case doesn't really mean as much in a broad sense.

I play plenty of niche stuff. My favorite deck to use is synchrons for god's sake. what are they doing ? Nothing. But there ARE times when my opponent does NOT open with 3 backrow that they can do work, because I make use of discards and graveyard recursion, Level change skills, JUST like the Shiranui do , only without the reliance on trap spam.

and again I'm not saying get rid of them altogether, just limit their use, so MAYBE some decks have a chance to breathe and we CAN get some diversity ( as much as I know that word terrifies people these days ) in the meta. Cause lemme tell you something, I'd been trying to get to 100 wins for that 7 swords warrior card and I capped out at legend 1, ALL I saw for like 40 straight games was Dark Magician with circle turn 1, rod and nav, Shira starting with squire, and 2 - 3 traps, and crystrons, which I don't really care about.

[Soda]

Цитата допису Keero Kamiya:

Цитата допису bmrjkt90:

The sad thing is, Konami doesn't seem to want to nerf traps or they would've nerfed the skill, Endless Trap Hell. Anyways, here's a YT video talking about the problem of heavy backrow meta https://youtu.be/RH_bn8VFhJE

Surprise surprise I'm not the only one who sees this issue

Surprise surprise you clearly didn't watch the video.

[Tunnel Sharks Rule!!!]

Цитата допису Keero Kamiya:

Цитата допису Papa Shekels:

> my meta deck destroyed the other meta deck, meta is trash

these are some deep revelations we are coming to here

My deck is hardly meta, the meta version runs 3 Kumanzan I have ONE
3 merchants, I have 2. 3 Nininshi , I have 2. That's my point, a budget deck that's even KINDA decent beats this all poweerful shira crap if the shira don't lean on ballista, karma, flood, canadia, and everything else they have such generic access to.

A budget version of a meta deck is still a meta deck