Plant Decks Overdue For Nerfs

[Star69er]

Either Rose Lover should be Limited to 1, or Komushroomo and Marshalleaf should both be Semi-limited.

[Mewtwo_soul]

I think both are legitimate nerfs. Rose Lover I find more misbalanced than I do Komushroomo and Marshalleaf. Even if they nuke the field with 3 copies of the Sylvans you can generally survive with some life points, Rose Lover is what brings the issue because it summons out a 2400-2700 beater, which your field has been nuked and if you were 1st turn you probably have two cards to outmanuever at that point. Then you combo that on with excavation of Carrot, and the real issue arrives, it also limits what decks can be used due to it.

[Star69er]

Mewtwo_soul eredeti hozzászólása:

I think both are legitimate nerfs. Rose Lover I find more misbalanced than I do Komushroomo and Marshalleaf. Even if they nuke the field with 3 copies of the Sylvans you can generally survive with some life points, Rose Lover is what brings the issue because it summons out a 2400-2700 beater, which your field has been nuked and if you were 1st turn you probably have two cards to outmanuever at that point. Then you combo that on with excavation of Carrot, and the real issue arrives, it also limits what decks can be used due to it.

Not having any hard counters makes them very strong, they definitely have the fastest setup which gives them a huge advantage, rose lover just makes it all the more worse. I think one of these are reasonable balance changes because they’d still be good.

[Zylon]

Just be careful you dont nerf the entire plant arch type. As 5D will bring more plant cards and id like to still be able to make a good deck with plants.

Delicate, instead of a sledgehammer.

[Mewtwo_soul]

Zylon eredeti hozzászólása:

Just be careful you dont nerf the entire plant arch type. As 5D will bring more plant cards and id like to still be able to make a good deck with plants.

Delicate, instead of a sledgehammer.

When 5D's come Rose dragon will be probably coming and that thing will be a nightmare on it's own. Trust me Plants are still useful even if you limit Rose Lover to 1 , and the Sylvans to 2 each or 1. People just exaggerate how bad they'll be without three copies of each of those cards. It'd be one thing if people were calling for bans, but people are playing what I call balance politics. They plead not to limit a broken or over centralizing card because then they think they can fool the company that makes them.

IE: In PubG for instance, when Car meta was a thing, the game developers tested it out and found it misbalanced so nerfed cars. The people who thought they could manipulate the situation on console were shown otherwise.

[Mewtwo_soul]

star99er eredeti hozzászólása:

Mewtwo_soul eredeti hozzászólása:

I think both are legitimate nerfs. Rose Lover I find more misbalanced than I do Komushroomo and Marshalleaf. Even if they nuke the field with 3 copies of the Sylvans you can generally survive with some life points, Rose Lover is what brings the issue because it summons out a 2400-2700 beater, which your field has been nuked and if you were 1st turn you probably have two cards to outmanuever at that point. Then you combo that on with excavation of Carrot, and the real issue arrives, it also limits what decks can be used due to it.

Not having any hard counters makes them very strong, they definitely have the fastest setup which gives them a huge advantage, rose lover just makes it all the more worse. I think one of these are reasonable balance changes because they’d still be good.

Exactly what I've been saying but those who defend Rose Lover won't even debate it.Me thinks they don't want to face reality. Just because rose Lover only becomes broken thanks to Sylvans as Aromage wasn't that bad doesn't mean much when even in the TCG cards that weren't broken at first have been retroactively banned as new card types and sets come out. Sucks but that's how it is with card games.

[Star69er]

It’s sad 😞

[grimreaperuuu]

*PLEASE READ* This is War againt the Plants, we need to design a deck to destroy them and make all of the *coughs* totally not tier abusing people to stop. if this was real yugioh we could just use Tribe Infecting Virus (one of my Favorite Cards) but they don't have that card in duel links.

I have some Ideas though:
We can use tribe shocking virus.
If there was Rose tenticals that would work but of coure that's also not in Duel Links.
But there is still Regulation of Tribe but that isn't very effective.

So on the Topic of Plants the most effective way to combat them (for me), is hust like weeds to kill them off early.

[Rain]

They just got 1

EDIT: lol just noticed this thread is as acient as the god cards.

[Mayks]

Mewtwo_soul eredeti hozzászólása:

I think both are legitimate nerfs. Rose Lover I find more misbalanced than I do Komushroomo and Marshalleaf. Even if they nuke the field with 3 copies of the Sylvans you can generally survive with some life points, Rose Lover is what brings the issue because it summons out a 2400-2700 beater, which your field has been nuked and if you were 1st turn you probably have two cards to outmanuever at that point. Then you combo that on with excavation of Carrot, and the real issue arrives, it also limits what decks can be used due to it.

Yeah but, a 2700 beater can't with the 2800 beater other metas have, leaf was the issue of why they winning. limiting rose lover, you kill any plant deck a 60%

[Mewtwo_soul]

Mayks eredeti hozzászólása:

Mewtwo_soul eredeti hozzászólása:

I think both are legitimate nerfs. Rose Lover I find more misbalanced than I do Komushroomo and Marshalleaf. Even if they nuke the field with 3 copies of the Sylvans you can generally survive with some life points, Rose Lover is what brings the issue because it summons out a 2400-2700 beater, which your field has been nuked and if you were 1st turn you probably have two cards to outmanuever at that point. Then you combo that on with excavation of Carrot, and the real issue arrives, it also limits what decks can be used due to it.

Yeah but, a 2700 beater can't with the 2800 beater other metas have, leaf was the issue of why they winning. limiting rose lover, you kill any plant deck a 60%

If you lost and only have two cards, how are you getting out a two tribute beater? Let's assume the first card is say:

A 1900 beater monster. A trap, a spell, and a random card as your fourth.

If one of each gets nuked. You're left with either a trap that can't be used against a 2700 beater (let's say WoD) so you survive but still have the beater out. Ok. So now you have TWO cards in hand or one spell or trap on the field and one in your hand and have to beat the 2700 beater.

You probably aren't going to beat it, and if you do get a 2800 beater in your hand outside of Kidmodo dragon decks, it's probably dead draw.

Edit: Also Rose lover is still the game breaker. If plants can only function on Rose Lover then they weren't fit to begin with to play. (Which is false, sure it's not as easy without three Rose lovers but still playable.) It'd be like saying "Well Exodia can't function without Card Destruction don't ban it." Er.... That's not how it works.

[ObiWankANob]

Also Guardian Beast decks are overpowered. I gave this game a negative review purely because of those 2 clone decks. That is why everyone was using them in the tournaments and winning.

I play with the same exact deck in town where i live on a weekend and always ask if a person is using a plant or guardian beast deck. Because I will not waste my time playing them.

I like the deck I've built myself and it fairs well against any other deck. Apart from plant and GB decks, which everyone seems to have an issue with. Everyone apart from the losers... (winners..? losers..? lazy ****s) that use them. We don't want to play with you! With your autistic YouTube hipster clone decks.

Have a nice day o/

[grimreaperuuu]

Guys I made a HUGE breakthrough in my anti-plant labs. I made a Vorse-Raider and Gigantic Cephalotus Combo (Wikia Page: http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Gigantic_Cephalotus). I found this combo to be insanly powerful, and with Anti-Magic Arrows there is not a lot they can do. Please leave some feedback and tell me anything I might have missed