Once per turn:

[LDvergil]

A card with this in its text means I can use this effect more than once if I can summon the same card on the same turn correct? because I just summoned Lumina used its affect pulled another from the grave and used its effect again.

Also Double-edged sword technique is once per turn but doesn't say that on the card.

[C.C. 折オリ枝 の 夫]

It's called "soft once per turn". SOPT effects only limit it to the card that uses the effect BUT even if you bounce the card or revive or whatever, it will count as a new card of the same name, allowing it's effect to be used again.

"Hard once per turn" (HOPT) effects have the same wording as SOPT but have an additional line of text, "You can only use the effect of [insert card name here] once per turn", meaning that the first card of that name to activate is also the only card of that name that can activate it's effect.

[LDvergil]

Originally posted by I:P マスカレーナ:

It's called "soft once per turn". SOPT effects only limit it to the card that uses the effect BUT even if you bounce the card or revive or whatever, it will count as a new card of the same name, allowing it's effect to be used again.

"Hard once per turn" (HOPT) effects have the same wording as SOPT but have an additional line of text, "You can only use the effect of [insert card name here] once per turn", meaning that the first card of that name to activate is also the only card of that name that can activate it's effect.

DEFFO need to keep an eye on cards like that.

[Soda]

Originally posted by LDvergil:

Originally posted by I:P マスカレーナ:

It's called "soft once per turn". SOPT effects only limit it to the card that uses the effect BUT even if you bounce the card or revive or whatever, it will count as a new card of the same name, allowing it's effect to be used again.

"Hard once per turn" (HOPT) effects have the same wording as SOPT but have an additional line of text, "You can only use the effect of [insert card name here] once per turn", meaning that the first card of that name to activate is also the only card of that name that can activate it's effect.

DEFFO need to keep an eye on cards like that.

In modern yugioh, most cards are HOPT

[LDvergil]

Originally posted by メイドの召喚獣ーレイ:

Originally posted by LDvergil:

DEFFO need to keep an eye on cards like that.

In modern yugioh, most cards are HOPT

You can never be too careful, as I saw some dude talk about some pudulum effect tat people missunderstand.

[C.C. 折オリ枝 の 夫]

Originally posted by LDvergil:

Originally posted by メイドの召喚獣ーレイ:

In modern yugioh, most cards are HOPT

You can never be too careful, as I saw some dude talk about some pudulum effect tat people missunderstand.

Probably Plushfire, that card will use it's on destruction monster effect even if destroyed while being a spell.

[LDvergil]

Originally posted by I:P マスカレーナ:

Originally posted by LDvergil:

You can never be too careful, as I saw some dude talk about some pudulum effect tat people missunderstand.

Probably Plushfire, that card will use it's on destruction monster effect even if destroyed while being a spell.

Was that really intended?
I know nothing about these cards btw, never played these cards or the tcg for that matter for many many years.

[taichou]

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[Soda]

Originally posted by LDvergil:

Originally posted by I:P マスカレーナ:

Probably Plushfire, that card will use it's on destruction monster effect even if destroyed while being a spell.

Was that really intended?
I know nothing about these cards btw, never played these cards or the tcg for that matter for many many years.

Knowing Konami, probably not. But also knowing konami, probably.

[Orochi Samurai]

Originally posted by MARCOS:

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[LDvergil]

How do you properly tell when I card is soft once per turn and hard once per turn and also when you can miss the timing of an opponents card.

[C.C. 折オリ枝 の 夫]

Originally posted by LDvergil:

How do you properly tell when I card is soft once per turn and hard once per turn and also when you can miss the timing of an opponents card.

Reread my comment on what's the difference between SOPT and HOPT.

As for missing the timing, that can only happen if the card's text is a "when....you can...." effect, if the card read "if....you can...." or the effect is mandatory, then it can't miss the timing.

How to miss timing, that's easy, not be the last thing to happen during a chain. A "when....you can...." effect must be the very last thing to resolve in a chain, if it's not, you can't activate it, simple as that.

[Orochi Samurai]

Originally posted by LDvergil:

How do you properly tell when I card is soft once per turn and hard once per turn and also when you can miss the timing of an opponents card.

Typically if it's a HOPT effect, the card will say something such as

"You can only activate the effect of *insert name* once per turn*

Or

"This effect can only be used once per turn and only once that turn"

As for effects that miss timing, those tend to be IF and WHEN effects, which basically means that that effect has to be the last thing to happen/resolve in a chain.

Take Red Eyes Slash Dragon as an example.

Imagine this:

I have a Set Subterror Umastryx on the field and a Nemesis Warrior in the GY.

Opponent has Red Eyes Slash equipped with Power of the Guardians.

I flip Unastryx and Target Slash but because Nemesis also has a when effect it says roughly "when a Subterror Behemoth you controll is flipped face up to can special summon this card from the GY" his effect will trigger immediately and because Nemesis effect will trigger before Slash, Slash will be unable to activate its negate effect because it didn't activate immediatly in response to my Umastryx target, Nemesis did.

It's kind odd to explain =/

[LDvergil]

Originally posted by Orochi Samurai:

Originally posted by LDvergil:

How do you properly tell when I card is soft once per turn and hard once per turn and also when you can miss the timing of an opponents card.

Typically if it's a HOPT effect, the card will say something such as

"You can only activate the effect of *insert name* once per turn*

Or

"This effect can only be used once per turn and only once that turn"

As for effects that miss timing, those tend to be IF and WHEN effects, which basically means that that effect has to be the last thing to happen/resolve in a chain.

Take Red Eyes Slash Dragon as an example.

Imagine this:

I have a Set Subterror Umastryx on the field and a Nemesis Warrior in the GY.

Opponent has Red Eyes Slash equipped with Power of the Guardians.

I flip Unastryx and Target Slash but because Nemesis also has a when effect it says roughly "when a Subterror Behemoth you controll is flipped face up to can special summon this card from the GY" his effect will trigger immediately and because Nemesis effect will trigger before Slash, Slash will be unable to activate its negate effect because it didn't activate immediatly in response to my Umastryx target, Nemesis did.

It's kind odd to explain =/

I get the concept just a little hard for me sometimes to tell what will end first and what will start first. Also, to clarify, ALL cards saying "IF" and "WHEN" can be missed timed, correct?

does the ":" have any significance in a cards text, because it makes it seem like a "THEN" effect and i've researched that those kind of cards can easily make a card miss its timing.

[C.C. 折オリ枝 の 夫]

Originally posted by LDvergil:

Originally posted by Orochi Samurai:

Typically if it's a HOPT effect, the card will say something such as

"You can only activate the effect of *insert name* once per turn*

Or

"This effect can only be used once per turn and only once that turn"

As for effects that miss timing, those tend to be IF and WHEN effects, which basically means that that effect has to be the last thing to happen/resolve in a chain.

Take Red Eyes Slash Dragon as an example.

Imagine this:

I have a Set Subterror Umastryx on the field and a Nemesis Warrior in the GY.

Opponent has Red Eyes Slash equipped with Power of the Guardians.

I flip Unastryx and Target Slash but because Nemesis also has a when effect it says roughly "when a Subterror Behemoth you controll is flipped face up to can special summon this card from the GY" his effect will trigger immediately and because Nemesis effect will trigger before Slash, Slash will be unable to activate its negate effect because it didn't activate immediatly in response to my Umastryx target, Nemesis did.

It's kind odd to explain =/

I get the concept just a little hard for me sometimes to tell what will end first and what will start first. Also, to clarify, ALL cards saying "IF" and "WHEN" can be missed timed, correct?

does the ":" have any significance in a cards text, because it makes it seem like a "THEN" effect and i've researched that those kind of cards can easily make a card miss its timing.

No offence, but can you read?

Go read my comment, read it to understand, and hopefully that will clear everything.

[LDvergil]

Originally posted by I:P マスカレーナ:

Originally posted by LDvergil:

I get the concept just a little hard for me sometimes to tell what will end first and what will start first. Also, to clarify, ALL cards saying "IF" and "WHEN" can be missed timed, correct?

does the ":" have any significance in a cards text, because it makes it seem like a "THEN" effect and i've researched that those kind of cards can easily make a card miss its timing.

No offence, but can you read?

Go read my comment, read it to understand, and hopefully that will clear everything.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eEaxavOyq38