So when we are going to get Black Luster Soldier-Super Soldier

[Magnificent Basterd]

So in the mini box set Fortress of Gears we got support wave for the original ritual card Black Luster Soldier which is nice and all but I have one gripe and that is I have to spend gems/money on very old box set for the cards they design for because I won't do that unless there a special sell going right now.

So, I believe that Konami release will Black Luster Soldier-Super Soldier in an EX structure deck along side with a new variation Gaia the Fierce Knight along side with old Black Luster/ Fierce Soldier supports cards go with them excluding card trader cards and the new support cards.

[Soda]

I highly doubt that.

[~ Fabulous ~]

please god no

[Magnificent Basterd]

Originally posted by カクリヨノチザクラ:

I highly doubt that.

Originally posted by ~ Fabulous ~:

please god no

They are going to do it but not give us the new Gaia the Fierce Knight fusion, fusion spell, and field spell because they are going to broken as ♥♥♥♥ in dual links if they do that.

[Obsidian Dragoon]

The next Black Luster Soldier card we're at all likely to get is Envoy of the Beginning, a UR card alongside Chaos Emperor Dragon - Envoy of the End.

[Magnificent Basterd]

Originally posted by Busty Demoness:

The next Black Luster Soldier card we're at all likely to get is Envoy of the Beginning, a UR card alongside Chaos Emperor Dragon - Envoy of the End.

If they do that they going to nerf those chaos decks and some people like them.

[C.C. 折オリ枝 の 夫]

Originally posted by Tenno:

Originally posted by Busty Demoness:

The next Black Luster Soldier card we're at all likely to get is Envoy of the Beginning, a UR card alongside Chaos Emperor Dragon - Envoy of the End.

If they do that they going to nerf those chaos decks and some people like them.

You do know Chaos Emperor Dragon got an errata making him useless?

And Black Luster Soldier is a generic boss. Either can attack multiple times if he destroys something by battle, or banishes a card but can't attack. The current BLS support gives the same abilities to the stock Ritual one and more.

[Magnificent Basterd]

Originally posted by I:P マスカレーナ:

Originally posted by Tenno:

If they do that they going to nerf those chaos decks and some people like them.

You do know Chaos Emperor Dragon got an errata making him useless?

And Black Luster Soldier is a generic boss. Either can attack multiple times if he destroys something by battle, or banishes a card but can't attack. The current BLS support gives the same abilities to the stock Ritual one and more.

Do know Chaos Emperor Dragon got an errata making him useless and the current BLS support gives the same abilities to the stock Ritual one and more than the non ritual Black Luster Soldier I am just complaining that ritual BLS need a reprint in the game of duel links on a clearly old box set it came from.

[C.C. 折オリ枝 の 夫]

Originally posted by Tenno:

Originally posted by I:P マスカレーナ:

You do know Chaos Emperor Dragon got an errata making him useless?

And Black Luster Soldier is a generic boss. Either can attack multiple times if he destroys something by battle, or banishes a card but can't attack. The current BLS support gives the same abilities to the stock Ritual one and more.

Do know Chaos Emperor Dragon got an errata making him useless and the current BLS support gives the same abilities to the stock Ritual one and more than the non ritual Black Luster Soldier I am just complaining that ritual BLS need a reprint in the game of duel links on a clearly old box set it came from.

The box is on sale atm, 25 gems a pack.

And that box, albeit a tad old, isn't half bad, so I don't think it needs a reprint just yet.

[Obsidian Dragoon]

Originally posted by I:P マスカレーナ:

Originally posted by Tenno:

If they do that they going to nerf those chaos decks and some people like them.

You do know Chaos Emperor Dragon got an errata making him useless?

And Black Luster Soldier is a generic boss. Either can attack multiple times if he destroys something by battle, or banishes a card but can't attack. The current BLS support gives the same abilities to the stock Ritual one and more.

Useless? No. Just slower. Plenty of chances for him to use his effect as burn damage to win game against an otherwise unbreakable board. The combo he was so well known for is gone, and isn't even possible in Duel Links (because we will NEVER get Yata Garasu).

The BLS support wouldn't replace the original anyway. And Rituals are typically too slow and too costly to be meta. Cyber Angels had their spot but have been power crept by multiple decks and hurt really badly by their limited cards. Maybe the limitations will be loosened again, but I doubt it. Konami will probably leave them limited just to be sure they aren't abused again by a future deck.

[Orochi Samurai]

Originally posted by Busty Demoness:

Originally posted by I:P マスカレーナ:

You do know Chaos Emperor Dragon got an errata making him useless?

And Black Luster Soldier is a generic boss. Either can attack multiple times if he destroys something by battle, or banishes a card but can't attack. The current BLS support gives the same abilities to the stock Ritual one and more.

Useless? No. Just slower. Plenty of chances for him to use his effect as burn damage to win game against an otherwise unbreakable board. The combo he was so well known for is gone, and isn't even possible in Duel Links (because we will NEVER get Yata Garasu).

Gonna agree with I:P on this one, yeah in Duel Links Chaos Emperor Dragon is "effectively" useless, the card is simply too slow for the Speed Duel format and currently only really fits in comfortably and consistently with E-Sabers sure its effect can be strong, any time after turn 3 and you could OTK with burn so long as all drawn cards are still in play.

Unfortunately after the errata CED is now a 3 turn set up card, one to summon it, one turn where it has to survive and one to activate its effect, now unfortunately with the way the meta is rn, it won't last that long, especially with the defensive spells and traps in rotation, even a simple Floodgate or Canadia can screw you sideways.

EDIT: forgot to mention, you also cannot search it, so you have to hope to draw into it while setting up the GY for its summon. And you would only ever want to run it at max of 2, running 3 in a 20 card format is just a huge brick waiting to happen as it's basically useless by itself in the hand, can't even normal summon/set it.

[Tunnel Sharks Rule!!!]

They should add Injection Fairy Lily and Tribe Infecting Virus

[C.C. 折オリ枝 の 夫]

Originally posted by Busty Demoness:

Originally posted by I:P マスカレーナ:

You do know Chaos Emperor Dragon got an errata making him useless?

And Black Luster Soldier is a generic boss. Either can attack multiple times if he destroys something by battle, or banishes a card but can't attack. The current BLS support gives the same abilities to the stock Ritual one and more.

Useless? No. Just slower. Plenty of chances for him to use his effect as burn damage to win game against an otherwise unbreakable board. The combo he was so well known for is gone, and isn't even possible in Duel Links (because we will NEVER get Yata Garasu).

The BLS support wouldn't replace the original anyway. And Rituals are typically too slow and too costly to be meta. Cyber Angels had their spot but have been power crept by multiple decks and hurt really badly by their limited cards. Maybe the limitations will be loosened again, but I doubt it. Konami will probably leave them limited just to be sure they aren't abused again by a future deck.

Its the only card that can activate its effect the turn you want to use its effect. So if you use an effect set up the grave, it can't do its burn, didn't check but iirc, even its own Summon effect stops the burn effect, so yea, its pretty much useless unless you can guarantee its safety for far too long.

[Orochi Samurai]

Originally posted by I:P マスカレーナ:

Originally posted by Busty Demoness:

Useless? No. Just slower. Plenty of chances for him to use his effect as burn damage to win game against an otherwise unbreakable board. The combo he was so well known for is gone, and isn't even possible in Duel Links (because we will NEVER get Yata Garasu).

The BLS support wouldn't replace the original anyway. And Rituals are typically too slow and too costly to be meta. Cyber Angels had their spot but have been power crept by multiple decks and hurt really badly by their limited cards. Maybe the limitations will be loosened again, but I doubt it. Konami will probably leave them limited just to be sure they aren't abused again by a future deck.

Its the only card that can activate its effect the turn you want to use its effect. So if you use an effect set up the grave, it can't do its burn, didn't check but iirc, even its own Summon effect stops the burn effect, so yea, its pretty much useless unless you can guarantee its safety for far too long.

You are correct, the summon effect locks you out of the burn effect for the turn.

[C.C. 折オリ枝 の 夫]

Originally posted by Orochi Samurai:

Originally posted by I:P マスカレーナ:

Its the only card that can activate its effect the turn you want to use its effect. So if you use an effect set up the grave, it can't do its burn, didn't check but iirc, even its own Summon effect stops the burn effect, so yea, its pretty much useless unless you can guarantee its safety for far too long.

You are correct, the summon effect locks you out of the burn effect for the turn.

Yea, then he's not worth the hassle, Chaos decks use effects to stack the grave, but then you can't burt, he's just a 3000 beats tick for a turn. You have to use resources to protect him, all the yada yada.

Only thing he'd be good for is making the "deal 2000 effect damage in a single activation" quests easier.

[Obsidian Dragoon]

Originally posted by Orochi Samurai:

Originally posted by I:P マスカレーナ:

Its the only card that can activate its effect the turn you want to use its effect. So if you use an effect set up the grave, it can't do its burn, didn't check but iirc, even its own Summon effect stops the burn effect, so yea, its pretty much useless unless you can guarantee its safety for far too long.

You are correct, the summon effect locks you out of the burn effect for the turn.

From what I've read that doesn't seem correct.

All of the rulings indicate "activate other cards or effects (of other cards)". There is zero mention that the summon itself locks the user from the effect. That second part is clearly intended to cover continuous effects like Ultimate Offering.

https://yugioh.fandom.com/wiki/Card_Rulings:Chaos_Emperor_Dragon_-_Envoy_of_the_End

No other site is giving me additional or conflicting information.

I think the reason is because that summon is a sort of continuous effect with no activation or chain link, like you'd get with Cyber Dragon. As such, it would also mean you're allowed to Special Summon Cyber Dragon (or use similar summoning methods) without locking yourself out of using Chaos Emperor Dragon's activated effect.