Good ancient gear and anti gear deck?

[DuelShockX]

Alright so I ancient gear decks suddenly became the new meta when I was about to finish a decent elemental hero deck. I've been saving my gems so what kinds of decks do you recommend for both sides? Anti gears and gears deck anyone?

[Sparse Dunes]

For AGs:

Monarch AG is a counter to AG counter decks. Focusing on tributing into Reactor or Golem and using Monarch Awakens.
It's more expensive as you do need a lot of cards outside of the deck. Monarch Awakens basically makes your one Reactor or Golem into an unstoppable killing machine, fully immune to all card effects.
Just keep one on the field and the only decks you'll have trouble facing are BEWD or anything that can go beyond 3000+ ATK.

Reactor Trubo: focuses on dumping three reactors ASAP. Some builds don't run Pathfinder and some do, this tends to brick so it's kind of dangerous too. This is probably the "cheapest" variation as you only need to purchase the structure deck.

AG fusion: This one is also another costly deck as you want to get out Ultimate ASAP so you'll need king of the swamp. You could simply omit those, but it will take some time as you need to use Frame's effect to discard any cards you don't need(mainly box) to get a Golem into your hand if you don't have one already.


Sea Stealth Attack decks and Blue Eyes are probably the best counter to AGs.
SSA because AG dekcs don't really have an out to it.
Blue Eyes for stats.


You can use decider in destiny heroes, but that's only if you know your opponent doesn't have a Wyvern in hand so it's a tad risky.

Outside of that there are a lot of single cards that can be effective against AG
Floodgate and System Down are good options.

The counters are only a small sample, I am sure plenty of others have guarantee ways of beating AGs.

[Sophie]

Seems like everyone and their mothers is using an AG deck. It's annoying.

[DuelShockX]

Before I read your comment I was trying to figure out if you were meant anti gears or ancient gears hehe

[DuelShockX]

Originally posted by SophieBreca:

Seems like everyone and their mothers is using an AG deck. It's annoying.

It really is and it looks like crowler is going to be the next king of games. Or someone using an anti ancient gears deck

[SoB]

Every new card comes out just make this game more ridiculous and stupid.

[Obsidian Dragoon]

Several cards that are anti-AG:

• Floodgate Trap Hole (locks monster face down upon summon)
  
• Paleozoic Canadia (helps delay monster attacks)
  
• Impenetrable Attack (used at start of Battle Phase to prevent damage or destruction)
  
• Amazoness Swordswoman + Protection (goes for miles when piercing damage is reflected)
  
• Treacherous Trap Hole (like Canadia, can be used to destroy monsters before you're attacked)
  
• Paleozoic Hallucinogenia (serious stat cut can delay attacks)
  
• Amazoness Onslaught/Sea Stealth Attack (as long as it's active before the battle phase, banish/destruction can happen at any time)
  
• Super Rush Headlong (all AG monsters are Earth, activate at start of battle phase)

[DuelShockX]

Well uh I see what the main cards you guys are talking about but what about a full deck?

[Sparse Dunes]

Originally posted by DuelShockX:

Well uh I see what the main cards you guys are talking about but what about a full deck?

I'll only give you Monarch AG since no one runs it.

Monarch AG
x3 Reactor and/or Golem
x2 Hamstrat
x2 Sphere
x2 Tetran/Snipe Hunter

x2 Soul Exchange
x2 Gear Town
x2 Monarch Awakens
x2 Canadia
x3 Hallu


The others just research, doesn't take 5 seconds on google to find a variety of builds.

[DuelShockX]

Now that I think of it. Would it be possible to cpunter these AG decks with an elemental hero deck that focuses on HERO Core and vision hero trinity? Throw in hero barrier and a few methods to retrieve them from the grave and you should be good. Right?
Edit: include elemental hero great tornado too since he halves opponents attack while on the field.

[Skilled Blue Magician]

Treacherous Trap Hole devastates them and Super Rush Headlong can make up for removing other traps. Cosmic Cyclone can be extra risky with big beaters around but you can really slow them down with it and it doesn't activate the graveyard spells. I also have Mage Power though to outmuscle myself out of the world of big beaters. I've only lost once against them.
You could try D.D. Assailant/Warrior with Holy Guard to ram AG out of play, or leave them in attack mode with bluff backrow. Warrior decks are good for versatility. Try X-Saber.

Originally posted by SophieBreca:

Seems like everyone and their mothers is using an AG deck. It's annoying.

I think it's been making the KC Cup easy because most people are using the same deck.

[~ Fabulous ~]

Traptrix trap hell, yes you're welcome

Originally posted by SophieBreca:

Seems like everyone and their mothers is using an AG deck. It's annoying.

really? all I've been fighting is mokuba and his koa'ki meiru ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥

[Theuone]

Against Ultimate AGG, if you can just survive one attack ... Enemy Controller can turn it around to you. I've found it rather satisfying.

[DuelShockX]

Originally posted by Theuone:

Against Ultimate AGG, if you can just survive one attack ... Enemy Controller can turn it around to you. I've found it rather satisfying.

Wouldnt the best counter to this deck be one that focuses on bringing out Hero core, trinity, and great tornade? Core's attack gets doubled when being attacked and trinity gets 5000 attack when summoned plus can attack all monsters at one. Equip him with something that gives piercing damage and you've practially won. Elemental great tornado halves the attack of all monster on the field making him able to take on even a blue eye ultimate dragon. Or is there any key error I'm missing? (floodgate and other meta traps would be included along with hero barrier)