I'm expecting Dark Magical Circle to become Limited 2

[Obsidian Dragoon]

Despite its once per turn limit on each effect, the easy banish effect and being readily searchable by multiple cards makes it rather oppressive as a meta card. Also, being a spell card, it requires even less setup and delay to be operational.

[Masuo15]

We were sayign the same for Aleister, and they limited things around them rather than limit Aleister or Invokation, they hit the SR and R fusions and some of the tech cards for OTK.

Sercheable by multiple cards?....only Rod and Circle itself can searche/pull it...what are you talking about?.

If something gets limited on DM, might be Rod and even so, I think there are other decks that also needs to limit like E.Heros now that stratos is out, Solid Soldier could use a limit, Ninja's trap is also pretty powerfull, etc etc.

In my personal opinion, despite Darklords hits, I think its still a very powerfull deck and promotes stalling rather than interacting; can prevent itself from deckout, can negate monsters, can restore life points. But in reality, Compensation would most likely take the hit in that deck.

[Soda]

Originally posted by Masuo15:

We were sayign the same for Aleister, and they limited things around them rather than limit Aleister or Invokation, they hit the SR and R fusions and some of the tech cards for OTK.

Sercheable by multiple cards?....only Rod and Circle itself can searche/pull it...what are you talking about?.

If something gets limited on DM, might be Rod and even so, I think there are other decks that also needs to limit like E.Heros now that stratos is out, Solid Soldier could use a limit, Ninja's trap is also pretty powerfull, etc etc.

In my personal opinion, despite Darklords hits, I think its still a very powerfull deck and promotes stalling rather than interacting; can prevent itself from deckout, can negate monsters, can restore life points. But in reality, Compensation would most likely take the hit in that deck.

I'm sorry....limit e-heroes? They're not relevant even WITH stratos.

Aleister is a Box UR, so there's no way he's getting hit. And Circle is also a Box UR so it also won't get hit. If anything, sorc conduit or Rod or even both will be hit. Compensation will either be turned into needed a certain type of card sent or a hard OPT with a limit per duel.

[1WingedAngel]

^agree with Masuo15

DMC is a main box UR so won't be put on the ban list, Magician's Rod will probably become semi-limited (is it just me or does literally every Dark Magician player open with Rod in their hand??)

And yeah, maybe Compensation should be once per turn only... Darklords have survived so many nerfs already though, maybe they should be left alone, haha

[Obsidian Dragoon]

Originally posted by Masuo15:

We were sayign the same for Aleister, and they limited things around them rather than limit Aleister or Invokation, they hit the SR and R fusions and some of the tech cards for OTK.

Sercheable by multiple cards?....only Rod and Circle itself can searche/pull it...what are you talking about?.

If something gets limited on DM, might be Rod and even so, I think there are other decks that also needs to limit like E.Heros now that stratos is out, Solid Soldier could use a limit, Ninja's trap is also pretty powerfull, etc etc.

In my personal opinion, despite Darklords hits, I think its still a very powerfull deck and promotes stalling rather than interacting; can prevent itself from deckout, can negate monsters, can restore life points. But in reality, Compensation would most likely take the hit in that deck.

Magician's Rod, Dark Magical Circle and Dark Magic Inheritance can all search the spell. And "multiple" means "two or more". Since it's a Spell, it can be used immediately as well.

Unlikely to limit Rod because the only problematic card is Dark Magical Circle. Anything else would be a matter of choice. The fact that Dark Magical Circle is the go-to card, much like Amazoness Onslaught, means it is the keystone card the entire strategy is balanced on. I'll remind you that they ended up limiting Onslaught twice, first from Unlimited to Limited 2 and later to Limited 1.

The biggest problem with Circle is that it isn't simply monster banishment, it's applicable to any card which makes it much more versatile compared to Onslaught. And Onslaught was slowed down by being a trap card, unlike Circle.

While the Invoked engine is annoying, it's almost not worth limiting either card. It's a splashed archetype in Duel Links that requires at least 2 cards in the main deck plus extra deck space. Making both Limited 2 would completely kill the engine. Making either Limited 2 is an impossible choice because you need both plus the extra deck cards to use the engine.

If I wanted to kill the deck, I would have suggested Limited 2 on Rod with Limited 1 on Dark Magical Circle, just like Amazons.

[Obsidian Dragoon]

Originally posted by 1WingedAngel:

^agree with Masuo15

DMC is a main box UR so won't be put on the ban list, Magician's Rod will probably become semi-limited (is it just me or does literally every Dark Magician player open with Rod in their hand??)

And yeah, maybe Compensation should be once per turn only... Darklords have survived so many nerfs already though, maybe they should be left alone, haha

And they've limited Structure Deck cards because they were oppressive. Neos Fusion, a Structure Deck exclusive (which means any copy after the 1st is exclusively paid for), was made Limited 2. So the precedent here is that they have hit cards that are locked behind micro transactions which is arguably worse than simply hitting a Box UR.

[76561198993349405]

the same can be said for banishment when it made bricklords (darklords) meta but komoney never limit a UR. no no. they just nerf around the problem by touching SR/R/N.

edit: some people think rod will be semi-limit.

[Shark]

Attention duelists i can safely announce that Dark Magician will be limited while Dark Magician Girl gets a new nude alternate card art

[Masuo15]

Originally posted by Busty Demoness:

Magician's Rod, Dark Magical Circle and Dark Magic Inheritance can all search the spell.

No offense but Dark Magic Inheritance?. I belive its too slow due its requirments and banishign 2 cards also decreases the atk of AMulet or Cavalry. What spells would DM cost to be in the graveyard to search Circle?, E.Con (if there is a target), Ilussion Magic (if there is a monster on the field to tribute), Dark Magic Curtain (you cant summon now, so Circle wont get to banish anything when you search for it for that turn).

Yes it can be sercheable, I do agree, I just didnt menttion Inheritance because that card is even slower than circle (you can disrupt circle plays by simply destroying it even in the same chain it is activated or before it gets to attempt to activate its effect).

Circle is the go to card because is the only way DM have some form of offensive power on a vanilla 2.5 monster, I do play DM, I do agree they can be quiet powerfull but also pretty bricky and can be disrupted. If you wanna talk about disrupt plays, what about Ritual Beasts?, those just dodge effects by tagging 24/7, yet nobody complains.

[Obsidian Dragoon]

Originally posted by Masuo15:

Originally posted by Busty Demoness:

Magician's Rod, Dark Magical Circle and Dark Magic Inheritance can all search the spell.

No offense but Dark Magic Inheritance?. I belive its too slow due its requirments and banishign 2 cards also decreases the atk of AMulet or Cavalry. What spells would DM cost to be in the graveyard to search Circle?, E.Con (if there is a target), Ilussion Magic (if there is a monster on the field to tribute), Dark Magic Curtain (you cant summon now, so Circle wont get to banish anything when you search for it for that turn).

Yes it can be sercheable, I do agree, I just didnt menttion Inheritance because that card is even slower than circle (you can disrupt circle plays by simply destroying it even in the same chain it is activated or before it gets to attempt to activate its effect).

Circle is the go to card because is the only way DM have some form of offensive power on a vanilla 2.5 monster, I do play DM, I do agree they can be quiet powerfull but also pretty bricky and can be disrupted. If you wanna talk about disrupt plays, what about Ritual Beasts?, those just dodge effects by tagging 24/7, yet nobody complains.

I haven't seen anyone brick badly with Dark Magician simply due to the nature of Rod and Circle. Even drawing 3x Circle and 1x random card doesn't become much of a brick depending on the top 3 cards.

I also don't complain about Ritual Beast archetype because I run Cyber Dragons and Overflow doesn't target. There's also several generic traps that can screw up Ritual Beasts.

[Soda]

Originally posted by Busty Demoness:

Originally posted by Masuo15:

We were sayign the same for Aleister, and they limited things around them rather than limit Aleister or Invokation, they hit the SR and R fusions and some of the tech cards for OTK.

Sercheable by multiple cards?....only Rod and Circle itself can searche/pull it...what are you talking about?.

If something gets limited on DM, might be Rod and even so, I think there are other decks that also needs to limit like E.Heros now that stratos is out, Solid Soldier could use a limit, Ninja's trap is also pretty powerfull, etc etc.

In my personal opinion, despite Darklords hits, I think its still a very powerfull deck and promotes stalling rather than interacting; can prevent itself from deckout, can negate monsters, can restore life points. But in reality, Compensation would most likely take the hit in that deck.

Unlikely to limit Rod because the only problematic card is Dark Magical Circle.

When has Konami ever hit a problem card?

[[絶望] 𝔖𝔲𝔦𝔠𝔦𝔡𝔞𝔩_ℑ𝔡𝔬𝔩]

Rod to 2 is the best you can hope for as it limits their ability to use E-Con and TTH as well, Circle won't get hit but i have to agree that this is the main problem of the deck, Circle was a mistake just as much as Invoked were.

Regarding the hate towards Darklords are you guys aware that the recycle of cards is the single thing that makes Darklords Darklords? Like it's their entire concept, it's like you want to ban Superheavies for being able to attack while in DEF or something, so sure lets just limit all of their spells and traps while we're at it to completely nuke the archetype bc who needs meta diversity when you can have 1 super dominant deck every season that gets nerfed to death in the very next, Contact and Sanctified to 2 might be a thing we could see but i wouldn't get your hopes up also if you honestly think Darklords are a problem then oh boy would i wish to change my rank with yours bc you must have never experienced the cancer that are KoG games, i would take pre-nerf Darklords anytime over the current Grass into everything meme bs and same here if you think Grass Shiranui is bad be glad to exist in your bubble bc Blue Eyes Grass is much worse if their combo goes off bc unlike Shiranui they don't have to wait until next turn to combo you into OTK.

My prediction would be this: Compensation rework to once per turn but maybe LP gain increase to 500, Contact and Sanctified to 2 or the release of Fiendish Chain in the next box as a hardcounter since this is what they did with Invoked too, or well obv a mix and match of them, or they just kill the archetype like you all want just like they did with Koa'ki and Amazoness but please don't cry next time that all the good f2p friendly decks get killed, oh and one last thing to whoever said the Ninja trap is a bit too strong, dude, please just stop, it's not, it's a gimmick card, w/o the stealth rework of MMC no one would even play Ninjas, the trap was a thing before and it's mainly useless just bc Hanzo is out and can search it doesn't mean it's suddenly broken, it's just not.

[Obsidian Dragoon]

Originally posted by カクリヨノチザクラ:

Originally posted by Busty Demoness:

Unlikely to limit Rod because the only problematic card is Dark Magical Circle.

When has Konami ever hit a problem card? :cocochan2:

Onslaught remains limited to 1

[Soda]

Originally posted by Busty Demoness:

Originally posted by カクリヨノチザクラ:

When has Konami ever hit a problem card?

Onslaught remains limited to 1

Onslaught wasn't much of a problem after they nerfed everything else

[Obsidian Dragoon]

Originally posted by カクリヨノチザクラ:

Originally posted by Busty Demoness:

Onslaught remains limited to 1

Onslaught wasn't much of a problem after they nerfed everything else :shigure2:

And with all of the removal we have now, Onslaught would be less of a problem than Dark Magical Circle.

[Kieldoozer]

invoked dark magician is a pretty strong deck in the real card game tbh, i just hope they throw canadia on the semi limited list.