Install Steam
login
|
language
简体中文 (Simplified Chinese)
繁體中文 (Traditional Chinese)
日本語 (Japanese)
한국어 (Korean)
ไทย (Thai)
Български (Bulgarian)
Čeština (Czech)
Dansk (Danish)
Deutsch (German)
Español - España (Spanish - Spain)
Español - Latinoamérica (Spanish - Latin America)
Ελληνικά (Greek)
Français (French)
Italiano (Italian)
Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian)
Magyar (Hungarian)
Nederlands (Dutch)
Norsk (Norwegian)
Polski (Polish)
Português (Portuguese - Portugal)
Português - Brasil (Portuguese - Brazil)
Română (Romanian)
Русский (Russian)
Suomi (Finnish)
Svenska (Swedish)
Türkçe (Turkish)
Tiếng Việt (Vietnamese)
Українська (Ukrainian)
Report a translation problem
Discussions Rules and Guidelines
Report this post
But even considering the "ima meta you supah fast" at endgame, how does that mentality help NEW players? Telling a NEW player to use 20 cards will definitely get their decks drained, I've seen it time and again during the early PvP ranks. I've sometimes won just because that one idiot trying to Exodia me got countered enough that they couldn't pull and lost. It's way too easy to counter half of the combos new players use so that they have nothing viable anymore and either I quickly end them or torture them waiting for them to deck out.
The point is that 20 cards isn't ideal - deck balance is ideal. The number of cards depends on the deck you're running. Acting like 20 cards itself is balanced is wrong and will just mess up new players.
New players have to learn the hard way in any game not get a simple hand out, the only issue in this game is it just takes a wallet to get somewhere faster than F2P. Also the way ranked is now KOG isn't that hard, you just need a competent deck and enough patience and time to grind your way there
And you're like "nah fam".
I think you've missed the point.
edit: EVEN KONAMI SAID IT. AND IT'S KONAMI.
How exactly is a clustered 30 card deck better than a smooth sorted 20 card deck? More cards does not mean a higher win ratio.
A smaller deck means you draw what you need faster, especially when winning fast is the key goal. It's called Speed Duel format for a reason.
If a player has only 20 cards, it's easy to empty their deck so that they lose the cards they need for the few combos they're aiming for. Then they're done. Sure, SOME decks, like Blue Eyes decks, need to get one specific combo as fast as possible because there's multiple ways to end the combo (alternatives and so on). But let's say you have a deck that specifically summons from the graveyard, or from the deck, or from the banish pile - the more cards you have, the less of a chance you have of getting a card in the graveyard you can't use and the more cards you can use from your graveyard if you've designed your deck that way.
More = better. There's no scenario where a 20 card deck balanced so any hand will work is better than a 30 card deck balanced so any card can work. The only question is whether the player has put in the effort to actually balance a 30 card deck.
Of course, you're right that in Speed Duel format - at endgame - all that matters is being able to grab the cards you need and use them as quickly as possible. But for NEW players and even mid-game players, both PvP and PvE are designed to prolong the battle and players generally don't yet have a meta that can go up against that before they get stumped by those decks which are designed to get rid of the player's cards en masse.
They don't consider that you need to open 3 different big boxes x3 times to get the UR cards needed to build a good deck.
Every single online competitive game is full toxic wannabes that only seek for perfection.
You do realize you are acting the polar opposite to that, which is just as unhealthy as the elitist
How about a challenge?
Show us your deck. Prove that what you claim is true.
No matter how stupid an idea is, if it works then it works, but what you do right now is not proving it works, it's just claiming it does.
Across almost 20 years if Yu-Gi-Oh, players reached the consensus that in 99% of cases, playing a deck that is using the minimum card requirements is better, you claim the opposite, so prove it.
I'll join your side if you can prove that such a deck is ideal at the highest level of play, and I don't mean KoG, as ranked is a joke atm. Ask the best Duelists here for a game, and win.
Post your deck and win at least 7 out of 10 games against someone from here that are the top Duelists.
I just told the guy how competitive communities work.
Most of the players only care about the deck with the highest win ratio.
And once they get that deck they think that anyone else can afford to get it.
Right, and you are the opposite of this, you want to complain about the elite, say how they are ruining something you enjoy, and basically say they are horrible or toxic or whatever insult. It isn't healthy cause then you are just giving bad advice and starting fights with others that will in the end nobody will care about.
Here is advice for new players, play whatever. Do you thing if it fails change or keep going cause in the end it's your choice. As for a deck don't choose the best stuff because those will just get insta nerfed, play the deck that is partial meta like Triamid, they will never get nerfed because they aren't that good but they are good enough to keep up with other decks
If you want to complain about elites then fine, I like complaining about ACTUAL elites not people on a gaming forum, but just realize you and them aren't getting a point across regardless
I talked about competitive gaming communities like CS:GO, League of Legends, Yu gi oh.
People from these communities are toxic, they kick who ever they do not meet their standars, they troll weaker players, they think they are gods because they used their credit card and opened the new meta cards.
Am i wrong?
Otherwise we just complain about necroposting or derail topics.