So, Why cards below 4 are viable? Also why bother online?

[ᛉᛏneon@stralᚨᛉ]

Hello, I'm new to this game, not really stranger to card games though.
Little on my background:
I played a lot of free-bies on PS3 in my time, and iphone 3s-5 era card games.


So what I don't get in this game instead of other car games ON FIRST TURN you can draw a LVL 4 card, making any 3-1 cards useless to have unless you are running heavy Equip Deck or fast Sacrifice decks.

Then, why use 90% of LVL 4 monster
Cards IF THEY have no special ability....

I mean if you have a lvl 4 Card 1 with 1600ATK 1500 DEF and a lvl 4 Card with 1750 1550 DEF and they both have no special abilities on their own but cost the same - card # 1 becomes obsolete.

A lot of LVL - "" are just better than other equals purely in stats.


So with that being said - why bother online if its just a race of LUCK to who can put down a LVL 4 card with higher stats first?
By this mechanism atleast 60% of ALL LVL 4 cards become inferior to some other RARE or even standard LVL 4 with superior stats?

Thanks

[mostpalone]

no one uses a lvl 4 1600 attack monster unless he as some effect don't know what you're talking about my boy, at this point if you're using lvl 4 normal monsters you should only go for the ones with 1800+ attack and you can find them pretty much in every recent box, the old ones like ultimate rising are very outdatated i.e. cards like Axe Raider and Jerry Beans Man.

[mimizukari]

many cards below 4 are viable due to synergy with cards. such as a the enchanted fitting room to get level 3 and below out for materials for cards

[ᛉᛏneon@stralᚨᛉ]

Originally posted by Uchihenberg:

no one uses a lvl 4 1600 attack monster unless he as some effect don't know what you're talking about my boy, at this point if you're using lvl 4 normal monsters you should only go for the ones with 1800+ attack and you can find them pretty much in every recent box, the old ones like ultimate rising are very outdatated i.e. cards like Axe Raider and Jerry Beans Man.

Well that makes sense, I run a deck build from Revenge of The Valkrie.

My 1650 ATK 1600DEF highest card is running against 2000ATK cards on 1st turn.

Well sillyme for not knowing this game is unbalanced and anything new will have higher stats. Hmm well I invested everything I had ,now it appears its too late GG Yu-Gi-Oh

[mimizukari]

Originally posted by neon@stral☼:

Originally posted by Uchihenberg:

no one uses a lvl 4 1600 attack monster unless he as some effect don't know what you're talking about my boy, at this point if you're using lvl 4 normal monsters you should only go for the ones with 1800+ attack and you can find them pretty much in every recent box, the old ones like ultimate rising are very outdatated i.e. cards like Axe Raider and Jerry Beans Man.

Well that makes sense, I run a deck build from Revenge of The Valkrie.

My 1650 ATK 1600DEF highest card is running against 2000ATK cards on 1st turn.

Well sillyme for not knowing this game is unbalanced and anything new will have higher stats. Hmm well I invested everything I had ,now it appears its too late GG Yu-Gi-Oh

it's not imba. lmfao. u said it urself, ur running the lowest of the low.

[Taweret]

you still can get some good cards from valkyrie box im opening it recently but is not a good box to start game with.

[mostpalone]

Originally posted by neon@stral☼:

Originally posted by Uchihenberg:

no one uses a lvl 4 1600 attack monster unless he as some effect don't know what you're talking about my boy, at this point if you're using lvl 4 normal monsters you should only go for the ones with 1800+ attack and you can find them pretty much in every recent box, the old ones like ultimate rising are very outdatated i.e. cards like Axe Raider and Jerry Beans Man.

Well that makes sense, I run a deck build from Revenge of The Valkrie.

My 1650 ATK 1600DEF highest card is running against 2000ATK cards on 1st turn.

Well sillyme for not knowing this game is unbalanced and anything new will have higher stats. Hmm well I invested everything I had ,now it appears its too late GG Yu-Gi-Oh

what do you mean you invested everything you had? If you're new to the game like you say you are then you can get a lot of gems still by leveling up stages/characters, that is if you're willing you grind a bit.

[Tim Timsen]

Originally posted by neon@stral☼:

Originally posted by Uchihenberg:

no one uses a lvl 4 1600 attack monster unless he as some effect don't know what you're talking about my boy, at this point if you're using lvl 4 normal monsters you should only go for the ones with 1800+ attack and you can find them pretty much in every recent box, the old ones like ultimate rising are very outdatated i.e. cards like Axe Raider and Jerry Beans Man.

Well that makes sense, I run a deck build from Revenge of The Valkrie.

My 1650 ATK 1600DEF highest card is running against 2000ATK cards on 1st turn.

Well sillyme for not knowing this game is unbalanced and anything new will have higher stats. Hmm well I invested everything I had ,now it appears its too late GG Yu-Gi-Oh

• Plays crappy cards
• Calls the game imbalanced because he doesn't win with said crappy cards

[Cherry]

Originally posted by Uchihenberg:

no one uses a lvl 4 1600 attack monster unless he as some effect don't know what you're talking about my boy, at this point if you're using lvl 4 normal monsters you should only go for the ones with 1800+ attack and you can find them pretty much in every recent box, the old ones like ultimate rising are very outdatated i.e. cards like Axe Raider and Jerry Beans Man.

Expanding on what he said, there might only be a card of a specific attribute, type, or archetype that is level four, so even if you have less attack, it might have a purpose with something else (even if it isn't an effect monster. Think Ojama yellow, green, and black not being "effect" monsters but being required for the effect of other ojama cards)

[Sparse Dunes]

Originally posted by neon@stral☼:

Originally posted by Uchihenberg:

no one uses a lvl 4 1600 attack monster unless he as some effect don't know what you're talking about my boy, at this point if you're using lvl 4 normal monsters you should only go for the ones with 1800+ attack and you can find them pretty much in every recent box, the old ones like ultimate rising are very outdatated i.e. cards like Axe Raider and Jerry Beans Man.

Well that makes sense, I run a deck build from Revenge of The Valkrie.

My 1650 ATK 1600DEF highest card is running against 2000ATK cards on 1st turn.

Well sillyme for not knowing this game is unbalanced and anything new will have higher stats. Hmm well I invested everything I had ,now it appears its too late GG Yu-Gi-Oh

Its your own fault for going into an old box. You say you play other CCGs but seems to me you don't know the basics.

This is like how it was in the TCG
back in the day people ran magical swordsman or battle ox purely on the fact that most high attack stat monsters like Dark Elf or Panther Warrior had costs so they basically ended up being an attack wall. So running a 1700 attacker was the most optimal strategy.
Even back then, using a 1600 atk vanilla is just having a sign that says "free win".


Now a days atk/def values don't matter, its about board control. Even in Links, many players use the staple spells and traps because they help keep you in control of the board.

[Sensei]

Haven't tried out Sylvans yet but I believe few 3's are usable.
Here're few cards below 4 which see play in either pvp or farm decks:

• Gladiator-Beast Murmillo
  
• Gravekeeper's Vassal
  
• Magician's Rod
  
• Sphere Kuriboh

And some that you see less often:

• 4-Starred Ladybug of Doom
  
• Atlantean Attack Squad
  
• Botanical Girl
  
• Doomdog Octhros
  
• Marmiting Captain
  
• Hand of the Six Samurai
  
• Pumprincess the Princess of Ghosts
  
• Unhappy Girl
  
• Warm Worm

[Taweret]

for example for valkyrie box:
"susa soldier" looks like bad card but if you equip to it lucky axe you have 3k atk beater in first turn.
list of good cards: divine wrath, soul exchange, escape from dark dimension, nobleman,
wrecker panda, xing, burning land, inaba, hiro, feint plan, skull lair, all these cards are perfectly playable, and maybe other that i havent tested.

you can always eqquip Amulet of Ambition from ranked rewards to buff your low lvl monsters, it only work on low lvl monsters. for example clown zombie lvl 2 monster 1350 atk if battling 4 lvl monster gain 1000 atk with this card attached.
so there are many strategies for normal low lvl monsters for example:
Creature Seizure give your opponent low lvl crap monster get his high lvl one, works best with tokens though.

[mimizukari]

i just realized dis is duel links, not legacy of the duelist. lmao.

still. there's plenty of good level 4 and below cards, horus the black flame dragon , armed dragon lv 3, etc.

[Taweret]

well there is no point to panic, since this box still have some flexible cards usable in any deck even UR: "Dunames Dark Witch" 1.8k seems weak beater when there are plenty of 1.9k but with fairy support in current event this card can find some usage for being fairy alone.

just played in kog with a guy who had 2 soul exchanges in his hazy deck, so its still viable strategy.

i'm pretty sure the OP is MTG player so he dont understand purpose of lvls in YGO i had problem with it also, because in MTG similar to "star" levels are mana costs and you are summoning them progressively, lets say first turn level 1 monster next turn level 2 monster etc.
in YGO levels have most importance in "ritual" summons because sometimes you need to have in hand/field total level monsters that fits with ritual summoned monster for example in gishkis you can summon 8 lvl monster by tributing 6+2 lvl or 4+4 monsters.

[ᛉᛏneon@stralᚨᛉ]

Whoaa chill tf out pls, 20 min car ride home and 27 responses.

First of all To those who say its "my fault for picking "bad" cards" and "playing outdated decks" -

in my defense I though the game is balanced bc there was no mention otherwise, I already said I don't know anything about Yu-Gi-Oh show or w/e and I just liked how "Revenge of Valkrie" sounds like.

Im a mirror of brand new player here , and you guys telling me that I SHOULD HAVE "GUESSED" the game is unbalanced?? And that only certain decks are viable to play with to stand a chance?

Wow ok I should have developed psychic abilities, but then again what was I thinking if the game is Free to Play its bound to have this garbage happen, what should I have expected.

But to tell me im MAD about it or stupid for picking this over that? Tsss I can delete this right now and not play ever again NP.

THE GAME DOESN'T TELL YOU SCHIT. So dont make it look like "I should have known" as a new player interested in the game there was 0 mention of any if this ♥♥♥♥ like I said.

Certainly does not say anywhere that "new decks tend to have stronger monsters".

But yea A LOT of nice replies here, after whichI lost interest in the game completely.its down the toilet for me, I have new games out of the a$$ and I'm not hurting about finding this out from you KIND guys, truuusstt meee.

[Taweret]

atk and def of monsters means nothing if you played MTG long enough you should know it, monster removals all the way.

if you really want to play low level monsters then Land of titan box is best
for example card like: "obedience shooled" allow you to summon 3 x lvl2 beast-type monsters then tribute them to summon behemoth king of all animals.