Neos Fusion is Worthless

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- Deck doesn't have a copy of Neos just a fill in Gemini that needs 2 turns to work so unless you have a Neos card which high chance you do this deck is pointless and even then why not just put it in
- The strongest card in the deck doesn't even work properly because it needs to be Fusion Summoned instead of Special Summon
- Brave Neos is the only useful card, everything else is a quick punch or a 1 time effect. Without Brave Neos the deck is pointless, you need Neo Space just to make Storm and Aqua last (or the equip spell) and even then only Aqua works with Neos Fusion
- Neos Fusion is too much of a reliance, this makes sense but its also the biggest fault cause only 1 card of the 3 cards you can summon is actually good, Aqua Neos would only last 1 turn after you use its disappear effect cause of Neos Fusion preventing it for oh 1 turn, not to mention 2500 attack is worthless which means Neos Knight is out, only with Neo Space is the card useful but even then Brave Neos can get it more quickly
- Highest damage card is 1900, 2nd is 1800, 3rd is 1500 and everything else is 1000 and below, sure Captain Gold is in here but unless you have Skyscraper no chance in summoning it and even then its only useful for its effect so it makes Miracle Draw easier to use. On top of that the 1800 card has a useful effect but you lose the chance of using its ability unless you have the 1900 or Connector's 1800 defense
- No Neo Spacian Grand Mole, so there went the only reliable spacian out the window
- Deck relies too much on the lucky draw scenario where you need certain cards to even remotely stand a chance, Neos Fusion Neo Space and the equip spell are all needed to even help in the slightest
- Miracle Draw is too much needed 3 (4 if you put in a Elemental Hero Neos) of the cards in the deck work with it so either get a good draw or hope that you have a Elemental Hero in your graveyard by the time you can use it

Overall this has zero chance in PvP where everybody just spams the ♥♥♥♥ out of Metas. With too much reliance on a good hand or draw and very few protection cards it just plays like a pointless waste of gems

[Raven]

okay, but there is at least 5 youtubers with proof that counter everything you say. I am not saying that makes them good or great players, I am just saying there is proof that "zero chance" is totally incorrect. while not the main focus of his deck, james warai used a weird frankenstien deck of six sams, neos fusion and king's consonance to get king of games. The main thing this deck does is enable other decks to shine with combos, as a stand alone its not great honestly, but you're still quite inaccurate. Point is the deck is neither worthless nor a bad investment just due to the sheer amount of utility and potential you can do with the cards with other themes.

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Publicado originalmente por Raven:

okay, but there is at least 5 youtubers with proof that counter everything you say. I am not saying that makes them good or great players, I am just saying there is proof that "zero chance" is totally incorrect. while not the main focus of his deck, james warai used a weird frankenstien deck of six sams, neos fusion and king's consonance to get king of games. The main thing this deck does is enable other decks to shine with combos, as a stand alone its not great but honestly, but you're still quite inaccurate.

I'm talking about the deck as it is, no adding cards and no changing cards which is the purpose of a Structure Deck.
This can't counter Six Samurai because that deck has a lot of ways to summons cards faster, and getting rid of your cards
This can't counter Yubel because no way of getting past Yubel or doing anything to Cerulean
This can't counter Dinos cause of the traps and card effects that deck has going for it, not to mention how high its damage output is
This stands no chance against a Ancient Gear deck

Also what videos have countered the Gemini mention, the Neos Knight ability not working mention, the Grand Mole mention, the MIracle Draw mention and the regular monsters damage mention? Cause so far you only mention the last part of what I said

[droplet]

just wait until we get rainbow neos

[DUBINA]

its a "structure" deck, they give you the base and you build on it how you like personally and take it any direction you wish.

[Tunnel Sharks Rule!!!]

Publicado originalmente por obcapers:

just wait until we get rainbow neos

High chance they won't bother with it, Cannon Soldier isn't even in the game. Also screw your Rainbow Neos I want my Grand Mole

[Raven]

Publicado originalmente por Fur Missile Inbound:

I'm talking about the deck as it is, no adding cards and no changing cards which is the purpose of a Structure Deck.
This can't counter Six Samurai because that deck has a lot of ways to summons cards faster, and getting rid of your cards
This can't counter Yubel because no way of getting past Yubel or doing anything to Cerulean
This can't counter Dinos cause of the traps and card effects that deck has going for it, not to mention how high its damage output is
This stands no chance against a Ancient Gear deck

Also what videos have countered the Gemini mention, the Neos Knight ability not working mention, the Grand Mole mention, the MIracle Draw mention and the regular monsters damage mention? Cause so far you only mention the last part of what I said

Okay, but telling people its worthless is just silly, you are also admitting it lends itself to other builds. Its already not a waste. plenty of people buy decks just to get a single card or couple cards and not care about the rest of the deck. it enables plays. okay, now you want me to post the videos now, JFC its not hard to look up. You're gonna have to search out the specific instances yourself, but here is some of the videos, they are in there.
https://youtu.be/xUzNVK3tJx0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LD3gvLyvFus
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TF-42ApKBnk
https://youtu.be/t5-tYTrboAU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eu_94Bo-z1Q

The point is, yes, I agree with you, by itself the deck is not that impressive, but it lends itself to impressive combos that work well in tandem to other decks, which is why saying the whole thing is a waste and garbage is simply not true, especially the claim it can't work in the meta since its literally being used as part of the meta.

Edit: just as a final point, structure decks are made so they can be used out of the box, that means its a fully functioning deck, which it is. that does NOT make it competitive and that has never been the claim of structure decks. I would say the real merit of the deck as you are proposing, just by itself, can it go beat the AI opponents in duel world? I would argue it can (I can't verify as I haven't tested, but I would think it can). asking it to work straight out of the box in a tournament level ranking system has never been a claim of any structure deck, any that try needed usually 3 copies of it and thats still altering it. you are being unfair and overly harsh.

[Tunnel Sharks Rule!!!]

Publicado originalmente por Raven:

Publicado originalmente por Fur Missile Inbound:

I'm talking about the deck as it is, no adding cards and no changing cards which is the purpose of a Structure Deck.
This can't counter Six Samurai because that deck has a lot of ways to summons cards faster, and getting rid of your cards
This can't counter Yubel because no way of getting past Yubel or doing anything to Cerulean
This can't counter Dinos cause of the traps and card effects that deck has going for it, not to mention how high its damage output is
This stands no chance against a Ancient Gear deck

Also what videos have countered the Gemini mention, the Neos Knight ability not working mention, the Grand Mole mention, the MIracle Draw mention and the regular monsters damage mention? Cause so far you only mention the last part of what I said

Okay, but telling people its worthless is just silly, you are also admitting it lends itself to other builds. Its already not a waste. plenty of people buy decks just to get a single card or couple cards and not care about the rest of the deck. it enables plays. okay, now you want me to post the videos now, JFC its not hard to look up. You're gonna have to search out the specific instances yourself, but here is some of the videos, they are in there.
https://youtu.be/xUzNVK3tJx0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LD3gvLyvFus
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TF-42ApKBnk
https://youtu.be/t5-tYTrboAU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eu_94Bo-z1Q

The point is, yes, I agree with you, by itself the deck is not that impressive, but it lends itself to impressive combos that work well in tandem to other decks, which is why saying the whole thing is a waste and garbage is simply not true, especially the claim it can't work in the meta since its literally being used as part of the meta.

Your point isn't the deck its the cards in the deck my point is the deck itself. Yeah the cards themselves can be really handy with merged with other cards but I am specifically talking about the deck Neos Fusion you are not you are saying it works with everything else. I already know that Neos Fusion put with other cards can be really useful because any Meta deck used now can be really useful. Its probably grand with Yubel or Six or Ancient but its not the deck that is grand its the cards in them which you can get from any card pack, the only ones you can't are Neo Space Connector, Neos Fusion, Common Soul, NEXT, and Brave Neos. The deck itself can't go against a Meta and if it can then I would like to hear about it.

And I don't think its worthless but only in PvP do I think its worthless which is really the only test for a deck at least in people's eyes, in just the regular Duel Worlds its fine but nowhere near as broken as Abyss Soldier is

[Raven]

Publicado originalmente por Fur Missile Inbound:

Your point isn't the deck its the cards in the deck my point is the deck itself. Yeah the cards themselves can be really handy with merged with other cards but I am specifically talking about the deck Neos Fusion you are not you are saying it works with everything else. I already know that Neos Fusion put with other cards can be really useful because any Meta deck used now can be really useful. Its probably grand with Yubel or Six or Ancient but its not the deck that is grand its the cards in them which you can get from any card pack, the only ones you can't are Neo Space Connector, Neos Fusion, Common Soul, NEXT, and Brave Neos. The deck itself can't go against a Meta and if it can then I would like to hear about it.

And I don't think its worthless but only in PvP do I think its worthless which is really the only test for a deck at least in people's eyes, in just the regular Duel Worlds its fine but nowhere near as broken as Abyss Soldier is

You didn't watch all those videos and you didn't read my edit. What you are saying its utterly unreasonable. NO STRUCTURE deck can do what you want. silent magician, AG, swordsman, all those decks just out of the box won't work alone against the meta. I'm done, you're totally unreasonable and just want to complain because there is no mole. Its not a discussion when you just want to take an unreasonable stance and hold things to a weird double standard.

[Tunnel Sharks Rule!!!]

Publicado originalmente por Raven:

Publicado originalmente por Fur Missile Inbound:

Your point isn't the deck its the cards in the deck my point is the deck itself. Yeah the cards themselves can be really handy with merged with other cards but I am specifically talking about the deck Neos Fusion you are not you are saying it works with everything else. I already know that Neos Fusion put with other cards can be really useful because any Meta deck used now can be really useful. Its probably grand with Yubel or Six or Ancient but its not the deck that is grand its the cards in them which you can get from any card pack, the only ones you can't are Neo Space Connector, Neos Fusion, Common Soul, NEXT, and Brave Neos. The deck itself can't go against a Meta and if it can then I would like to hear about it.

And I don't think its worthless but only in PvP do I think its worthless which is really the only test for a deck at least in people's eyes, in just the regular Duel Worlds its fine but nowhere near as broken as Abyss Soldier is

You didn't watch all those videos and you didn't read my edit. What you are saying its utterly unreasonable. NO STRUCTURE deck can do what you want. silent magician, AG, swordsman, all those decks just out of the box won't work alone against the meta. I'm done, you're totally unreasonable and just want to complain because there is no mole. Its not a discussion when you just want to take an unreasonable stance and hold things to a weird double standard.

Lol I did read the comment and I did watch the videos, except the last one cause of its cancerous editing. Also you yourself said in the previous post that people were using the deck in a meta and my point was its not the deck its the cards. All I stated was you are talking about the cards I am talking about the deck as in every card put into the structure deck is the deck. Any individual card has more use in a good deck than a bad deck. Also I mentioned the mole 2 times and 1 referring to somebody else but somehow that is why i'm complaining even though I have more points about everything but the mole and 1 point about the mole. And also explain the double standard. Is it I won't try out the deck combined with other cards cause you would need some facts about that, and if its not that please explain

[Zvirus91]

P2W.... xD

[~ Fabulous ~]

Publicado originalmente por Shadow Ops:

it's P2W for consistency. you literally need 3xcopies of the structure ex deck to pull 3x of whatever you need for consistency. like what others already said. you need to take cards out and put cards in to be meta kog competetive. otherwise noob whiner.

still ♥♥♥♥ compare to other deck...especially 6 samurai enishi dual wield cancer