Lava Golem

[Ryanqube]

Lava Golem in a Stall Deck is basically cheating. It's just so stupid that your enemy can tribute your monsters and play passively with swordswoman and sh!t tons of g@y traps WITH NO THROWBACK WHAT SOEVER. you can't go through stall deck with just one monster!

here are some suggestions that would make LG balance (only one of them should be applied)
1. Lava Golem's effect cannot drain your LP below 100.
2. Lava Golem should be unaffected by traps/spell
3. Semi-limit Lava Golem

I just F***ing hate passive players that always do this sh!t and reach KOG in a day.

[wizard master結城晶子リ]

or use it to summon one of your rank 5 or higher monsters magic box theres lots of ways

[1WingedAngel]

I'm surprised it's not already semi-limited tbh, but I can usually find a way to play around it with most of my decks by using it as tribute, E-controller etc.... Another underused work around is if you have a level 1 tuner in your deck it might be worth putting a copy of Giganticastle in your extra deck as Golem makes an easy synchro material for it.

Prime Material Dragon is also a handy back up to turn it into LP gain instead.

I have more of an issue with Weevil's parasite paracide skill, it should be amended to only add one to your deck, I had a ranked duel earlier where it added 2 and I drew them one after another, so I miss 2 draw phases and lose half my LP!? This just feels totally unbalanced compared to some other skills....

I will confess to playing around with a Lava Golem deck last month as it was an easy counter for Six Sams, but I still felt like total scum whenever I summoned it :)

[Long Bottom Leaf]

If you think Lava golem in stall decks is broken, then you have no idea how to play this game. You don't know how to build decent decks, and you obviously refuse to adjust with the meta.

Enemy controller, one of the most popular cards in the game and a card that can be put in any deck to massive benefit, deals with Lava golem. That is just one way, and the most obvious way. You can use it to tribute summon, or even synchro. That is 3 simple ways to deal with being givien a 3000 attack monster.

Maybe your problem is more with the control aspect of stall/burn, meaning you have minimal (probably zero) backrow removal. Your opponent gave you a 3000 attack monster in a 4000 LP format. I am sure if you actually think about it, you can figure out how to play against stall.

As a burn/stall main, the entire strat is hoping your opponent is either insane and doesn't know how to deal with burn, or draws poorly. Luckily, as this post highlights, most people are insane.

[DUBINA]

dealing with lava golem as mentioned above maybe a way out, but the damage is already done, parasite skill and 3 lava in a deck combined with floodgates and canadia is very strong with only 3 field for monster. even if you manage to remove lava golem, those 1000 already gone. i love this deck, all my life as a player i played with burn in online games. though in this game i cant remove 8000lp in 1 turn its better to torture my opp slowly.

[Raven]

lava golem is annoying but...honestly thats all that it is. I can't even tell you how many times people gave me a golem and then let me OTK them...

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Originally posted by Long Bottom Leaf:

If you think Lava golem in stall decks is broken, then you have no idea how to play this game. You don't know how to build decent decks, and you obviously refuse to adjust with the meta.

Enemy controller, one of the most popular cards in the game and a card that can be put in any deck to massive benefit, deals with Lava golem. That is just one way, and the most obvious way. You can use it to tribute summon, or even synchro. That is 3 simple ways to deal with being givien a 3000 attack monster.

Maybe your problem is more with the control aspect of stall/burn, meaning you have minimal (probably zero) backrow removal. Your opponent gave you a 3000 attack monster in a 4000 LP format. I am sure if you actually think about it, you can figure out how to play against stall.

As a burn/stall main, the entire strat is hoping your opponent is either insane and doesn't know how to deal with burn, or draws poorly. Luckily, as this post highlights, most people are insane.

You appearently don't know what you're talking about, a Lava Golem is one thing but Lava + Backrow + Parasites + Swordswoman, that's the problem, you can deal with everything mentioned above but not if it's all at once, if you draw a parasite you instantly go -2 (loss of draw+wasted monster zone), so if you happen to have a decent board to deal with my monsters w/o killing yourself and you have something in your deck that renders my entire backrow useless, AMA f.e. and it comes down to a single draw and the only card you can draw is the parasite, that is the problem and don't get me wrong, i have a pretty easy time against stall personally bc i do exactly what you said, use the pretty Lava Golem you gave me to summon Mist Wurm and there goes almost the entire board, such a shame really but overall the deck is way too consistent, can lock you out of way too many things and is just plain boring to play against, we're not playing the TCG where a Lava Golem is a joke, not only does it take 8 rounds in the TCG to kill me but it also has less impact to the monsterzone, so plenty of time and space to deal with everything a stall player throws at me, you know, not everyone is playing level 1 Tuners or Tribute monsters or Rituals, in DL with a 3 monster zone a Parasite + Lava equals an insta loss for most decks, also Weevil is just annoying to listen to, just saying ^^

BTT: Stall get's somewhat hardcountered by Parshath and Darklords so there won't be a nerf soon, if you have too much trouble against stalls start playing Darklords, they can negate most effects f.e. the summoning of Lava + you gain 3k life or you take the golem and hope you can negate their backrows, either way pretty effective, you can also just play around one, as long as the Parasite doesn't get force summoned you're fine, treat it like a TTH or Dual Wield and only go all out if you can reach lethal, you need a brain to play YGO, that's how it's always been, don't hope that Konami hits everything that finds some plays bc chances are they don't and let's be honest, there are plenty of decks that stomp stalls, you only need to get lucky draws.

[DUBINA]

Originally posted by ||eXz|| _sNTx // 悲しい:

Originally posted by Long Bottom Leaf:

If you think Lava golem in stall decks is broken, then you have no idea how to play this game. You don't know how to build decent decks, and you obviously refuse to adjust with the meta.

Enemy controller, one of the most popular cards in the game and a card that can be put in any deck to massive benefit, deals with Lava golem. That is just one way, and the most obvious way. You can use it to tribute summon, or even synchro. That is 3 simple ways to deal with being givien a 3000 attack monster.

Maybe your problem is more with the control aspect of stall/burn, meaning you have minimal (probably zero) backrow removal. Your opponent gave you a 3000 attack monster in a 4000 LP format. I am sure if you actually think about it, you can figure out how to play against stall.

As a burn/stall main, the entire strat is hoping your opponent is either insane and doesn't know how to deal with burn, or draws poorly. Luckily, as this post highlights, most people are insane.

You appearently don't know what you're talking about, a Lava Golem is one thing but Lava + Backrow + Parasites + Swordswoman, that's the problem, you can deal with everything mentioned above but not if it's all at once, if you draw a parasite you instantly go -2 (loss of draw+wasted monster zone), so if you happen to have a decent board to deal with my monsters w/o killing yourself and you have something in your deck that renders my entire backrow useless, AMA f.e. and it comes down to a single draw and the only card you can draw is the parasite, that is the problem and don't get me wrong, i have a pretty easy time against stall personally bc i do exactly what you said, use the pretty Lava Golem you gave me to summon Mist Wurm and there goes almost the entire board, such a shame really but overall the deck is way too consistent, can lock you out of way too many things and is just plain boring to play against, we're not playing the TCG where a Lava Golem is a joke, not only does it take 8 rounds in the TCG to kill me but it also has less impact to the monsterzone, so plenty of time and space to deal with everything a stall player throws at me, you know, not everyone is playing level 1 Tuners or Tribute monsters or Rituals, in DL with a 3 monster zone a Parasite + Lava equals an insta loss for most decks, also Weevil is just annoying to listen to, just saying ^^

BTT: Stall get's somewhat hardcountered by Parshath and Darklords so there won't be a nerf soon, if you have too much trouble against stalls start playing Darklords, they can negate most effects f.e. the summoning of Lava + you gain 3k life or you take the golem and hope you can negate their backrows, either way pretty effective, you can also just play around one, as long as the Parasite doesn't get force summoned you're fine, treat it like a TTH or Dual Wield and only go all out if you can reach lethal, you need a brain to play YGO, that's how it's always been, don't hope that Konami hits everything that finds some plays bc chances are they don't and let's be honest, there are plenty of decks that stomp stalls, you only need to get lucky draws.

if only mist wurm was that easy to summon as you say.

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Originally posted by DUBINA:

if only mist wurm was that easy to summon as you say.

Level 1 Tuner, Level dupe and Parasite, pretty easy, well you need the cards in your hand and field obv so luck dependant but summoning in itself is easy

Edit: setup in my Aromage deck btw and i only run 2 level 1 tuners for that exact case so if there's no Lava they're dead cards, not perfect but works.

Edit 2: as a f2p player Giganticastle prob works better but is then again threatened by the backrow + vulnerable/useless against Swords Woman

[DUBINA]

Originally posted by ||eXz|| _sNTx // 悲しい:

Originally posted by DUBINA:

if only mist wurm was that easy to summon as you say.

Level 1 Tuner, Level dupe and Parasite, pretty easy.

i reffering to when you use the lava golem for mist wurm summon. though not that important.

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Originally posted by DUBINA:

Originally posted by ||eXz|| _sNTx // 悲しい:

Level 1 Tuner, Level dupe and Parasite, pretty easy.

i reffering to when you use the lava golem for mist wurm summon. though not that important.

yes i know, that's how i do it, play a level 1 tuner level dupe the Golem with Bergamot and use the parasite as second material.

[DUBINA]

Originally posted by ||eXz|| _sNTx // 悲しい:

Originally posted by DUBINA:

i reffering to when you use the lava golem for mist wurm summon. though not that important.

yes i know, that's how i do it, play a level 1 tuner level dupe the Golem with Bergamot and use the parasite as second material.

ahh i see, didnt consider the skill, nice way to use it.

[[絶望] 𝔖𝔲𝔦𝔠𝔦𝔡𝔞𝔩_ℑ𝔡𝔬𝔩]

Originally posted by DUBINA:

Originally posted by ||eXz|| _sNTx // 悲しい:

yes i know, that's how i do it, play a level 1 tuner level dupe the Golem with Bergamot and use the parasite as second material.

ahh i see, didnt consider the skill, nice way to use it.

kinda, it's actually just a stand-in until i unlock "what grows in the graveyard" but i found it really useful for this specific matchup and Akiza doesn't have a whole lot of other useful skills, the main problem is, it's a once per duel effect, so you better get lethal this exact turn or it's most likely gg as a Sword Woman is enough to put an end to this and this is what i meant, Amazoness+Lava Stall is too consistent and can counter pretty much everything with topdecks, if we would have access to Brionac or Trishula i.e. Lava Golem would be just as niche as in the TCG but we don't.

[Ryanqube]

Originally posted by Long Bottom Leaf:

If you think Lava golem in stall decks is broken, then you have no idea how to play this game. You don't know how to build decent decks, and you obviously refuse to adjust with the meta.

Enemy controller, one of the most popular cards in the game and a card that can be put in any deck to massive benefit, deals with Lava golem. That is just one way, and the most obvious way. You can use it to tribute summon, or even synchro. That is 3 simple ways to deal with being givien a 3000 attack monster.

Maybe your problem is more with the control aspect of stall/burn, meaning you have minimal (probably zero) backrow removal. Your opponent gave you a 3000 attack monster in a 4000 LP format. I am sure if you actually think about it, you can figure out how to play against stall.

As a burn/stall main, the entire strat is hoping your opponent is either insane and doesn't know how to deal with burn, or draws poorly. Luckily, as this post highlights, most people are insane.

bud, Duel Link is a quick battle format game. lava golem doesn't belong in here. you only have 3 monster zone and 4 opening hand. It is crazy how fast you can just lockdown your enemy in a single turn.

Most of the good backrow destruction cards are semi-limited and those cards almost never see plays on high rank because they don't have synergy with most of the deck.

Not to mention sphere kuriboh to prevent lethal...

stop defending this broken card that abused its effect on this game.

"you can just play around it" tell me how! you only have 4K LP!
Econ? experience stall players know best not to open their monster face up after they summon a lava golem in case of Econ take!
Tribute summon? yeah sure if there is any lvl5/6 monster that actually worth putting in my deck and have synergy with it.
Synchro summon? the only viable synchro is a lvl 9 monster and you probably only bring a giganticastle in your extra deck, not to mention you need a lvl 1 tuner for actually summoning it. which in most cases you don't have in your synchro deck (except 6 sams).

If you think Lava Golem in stall decks in this game is not broken, then you have no idea how to play yugioh at all bud.

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Originally posted by Ryanqube:

bud, Duel Link is a quick battle format game. lava golem doesn't belong in here. you only have 3 monster zone and 4 opening hand. It is crazy how fast you can just lockdown your enemy in a single turn.

Most of the good backrow destruction cards are semi-limited and those cards almost never see plays on high rank because they don't have synergy with most of the deck.

Not to mention sphere kuriboh to prevent lethal...

stop defending this broken card that abused its effect on this game.

"you can just play around it" tell me how! you only have 4K LP!
Econ? experience stall players know best not to open their monster face up after they summon a lava golem in case of Econ take!
Tribute summon? yeah sure if there is any lvl5/6 monster that actually worth putting in my deck and have synergy with it.
Synchro summon? the only viable synchro is a lvl 9 monster and you probably only bring a giganticastle in your extra deck, not to mention you need a lvl 1 tuner for actually summoning it. which in most cases you don't have in your synchro deck (except 6 sams).

If you think Lava Golem in stall decks in this game is not broken, then you have no idea how to play yugioh at all bud.

Exactly this.
If i'd be rude, which i'm not but if i were, i'd say Amazoness/Lava Stall is the only deck he can play and he doesn't want it to get hit and activate his brain again to make plays, he prob forgot that most of the time you don't want to run a 30 cards deck so he just forgot that we don't have room for 300 soft counters for everything, 1 cipher, 1 sazank, 1 E-Con, 1 TTH, 1 Wall of D, 2 level 1 Tuner, 1 AMA/Hey Trunade, 1 Canadia/Floodgate. 9 cards simply for soft counters to 6Sams/Neos Fusion and Stalls, seems legit dude + you actually have to be lucky enough to draw them at the right time.

It's prob a good thing that i'm not rude.

PS: @Long Bottom Leaf: This is just a joke, i don't think you're braindead and need Stalls to play correctly nor do i think you forgot how all non-stall players play this game and how deck building and archetypes work, hope you can take it ♥

[Stan]

I highly doubt that lava golem gets nerf/removed, especially since its one of the animated cards. All so stalling is just one way to play the game, sure its annoying but do we need to remove certain play styles since people don't like it?