Chance of pulling UR and SR cards

[DeathArcanaXIII]

So i was doing some math using the Mini Box numbers and those are the chances of pulling UR, SR, R and N cards

UR : 3 = 1%
SR : 10 = 3,3%
R : 102 = 34%
N : 185 = 61,7%

Total = 300

Ok, so why the UR and SR number are so low? I think a ideal number for SR would be something like 6-10% and UR 3-5%, that's make very hard just to pull a certain SR/UR.

EDIT: Since N and R cards are always guaranteed you can ignore they number. In the case of R cards you have a chance to pull out a UR/SR, so i guess you chance to pull a UR and SR decrease the chance of getting a R cards by 4,3% (?)

[[絶望] 𝔖𝔲𝔦𝔠𝔦𝔡𝔞𝔩_ℑ𝔡𝔬𝔩]

no idea what kinda math you did but you do know that there are always multiple cards in a pack so if you didn't take this into your calculations your numbers are wrong, if you did then well rip it really is quite a low chance.
Btw whatever you did i take your word for it i can't be bothered with doing the math to either confirm or deny your claim, just making sure that you took the multiple cards per packs into consideration, eitehr way thanks for the numbers and the effort.

[DeathArcanaXIII]

Originally posted by ||eXz|| _sNTx // 構文:

no idea what kinda math you did but you do know that there are always multiple cards in a pack so if you didn't take this into your calculations your numbers are wrong, if you did then well rip it really is quite a low chance.
Btw whatever you did i take your word for it i can't be bothered with doing the math to either confirm or deny your claim, just making sure that you took the multiple cards per packs into consideration, eitehr way thanks for the numbers and the effort.

Yeah take the multiple cards into count, those cards makes part of the 34% R and 61,7% N in the pack, is dumb the fact that you have 16 different R cards but have 6 copies of each, that makes way to hard to even get a SR. Also since N and R are always guaranteed (Not always in case of R cards because you can get a UR or SR instead), they number can be ignored.

[Zane]

I won't go into a math dispute since that's just asking for a ♥♥♥♥ show, but do remember that the chances of pulling higher rarities increase as more cards are drawn from the box

[Nosferath]

To me it's a 100% chance to get the card i want ... at the last ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ pack ... EVER!

[DeathArcanaXIII]

Originally posted by Zane:

I won't go into a math dispute since that's just asking for a ♥♥♥♥ show, but do remember that the chances of pulling higher rarities increase as more cards are drawn from the box

Yeah, but the base values are too low, so after how much packs the chance became more them 50%? Also those are just the chances of getting any UR/SR, imagine the chances of getting a specific card. The last pack nightmare is real

[[絶望] 𝔖𝔲𝔦𝔠𝔦𝔡𝔞𝔩_ℑ𝔡𝔬𝔩]

Originally posted by DeathArcana:

Yeah take the multiple cards into count, those cards makes part of the 34% R and 61,7% N in the pack, is dumb the fact that you have 16 different R cards but have 6 copies of each, that makes way to hard to even get a SR. Also since N and R are always guaranteed (Not always in case of R cards because you can get a UR or SR instead), they number can be ignored.

I see, ok thanks for the math then, well i'm not super surprised or at all if i'm being honest since this is a gacha game afterall and i played others with far worse chances, however i just want to say 2 things regarding this: first, it's a free game and everything can be achieved for free so to add some RNG roadblocks is ok for me personally, if this would be a buy2play title i wouldn't be ok with it and second either way you get "value" so to speak unlike other games where you get copies of cosmetics you can actually use the cards you get some to a larger degree than others but overall the overall value so to speak is the same, f.e. if i want to dig for Power of the Guardians (N rarity card) is has the exact same value as a UR card for me in that specific case and i think that does make a difference overall, ofc there is this one card that you really want but that is personal value and is different depending on who you ask, URs are not always the cards you want to gun for also like Zane said the chance gets higher everytime unlike regular boxes from csgo or cod f.e. where the lootpool never decreases.

[Obsidian Dragoon]

Originally posted by DeathArcana:

So i was doing some math using the Mini Box numbers and those are the chances of pulling UR, SR, R and N cards

UR : 3 = 1%
SR : 10 = 3,3%
R : 102 = 34%
N : 185 = 61,7%

Total = 300

Ok, so why the UR and SR number are so low? I think a ideal number for SR would be something like 6-10% and UR 3-5%, that's make very hard just to pull a certain SR/UR.

EDIT: Since N and R cards are always guaranteed you can ignore they number. In the case of R cards you have a chance to pull out a UR/SR, so i guess you chance to pull a UR and SR decrease the chance of getting a R cards by 4,3% (?)

Your math is WAY off. Here are the starting percentages given a box that hasn't had any packs opened from it. This is on a per pack count because of how Rare+ cards work.

Main Box

UR cards, 5% draw chance minimum
SR cards, 12% draw chance minimum
R cards, 83% draw chance minimum

Mini Box:

UR Cards: 3% draw chance minimum
SR cards: 10% draw chance minimum
R cards: 87% draw chance minimum

What you're guaranteed in each pack is one R or higher card per pack. However, in mini boxes, there are more R cards than there are packs. So out of those packs, there will be a couple that contain an additional rare card (for 4 cards instead of 3). Those start at 2% chance.