Id Tech 6?

[NeverSleeper]

I highly doubt they would still be using Id Tech 5 for this game when Wolfenstein II (which was announced at the same time as TEW2) is using Id Tech 6, which is undoubtedly a marvel. I mean, just look at DOOM 2016!

There was also a rumor that they were hiring staff with knowledge of Unreal Engine 4, so thats a possability too. I reached out to their twitter page (which is run by a PR rep, so no idea if they will actually know) so hopefully they will be able to clearify. I had a lot of performance issues with the first game which was running on Id Tech 5 (which is odd because I didnt have issues with other Id Tech 5 games.

Just thought I would post here too just in case someone here knows something that I might have missed.

(OT: Hoping for a DOOM II announcement next year.)

[Sean8102]

That's really the only info we have is that job listing thing. They specifically stated there were looking for people unreal engine experience. That was about 3 year ago and they had listings for all sorts of postions. artists, animators, designers, programmers etc.

http://twinfinite.net/2015/07/developer-of-the-evil-within-tango-gameworks-hiring-for-new-project/

No way to know for sure but I'd be very surprised if it is not UE4. Not only because of the troubles they had with id tech 5, but I read that the language barier was a big problem for tango gamerworks because there was no Japanese documenation for id tech 5 and its probably the same for 6. As a Japanese dev UE 4 would be much easier to work with.

[NeverSleeper]

Originally posted by Sean8102:

because there was no Japanese documenation for id tech 5 and its probably the same for 6. As a Japanese dev UE 4 would be much easier to work with.

As long as it performs better I don't care which engine they use lol :-P Id Tech 6 and UE4 are both good engines.

[MooP]

I'm sold if it runs on anything but ID Tech 5/mod engine...

[Damien Azreal]

The first game had performance issues because it wasn't running on the standard idTech5.

Tango rewrote massive parts of the engine to fit their needs.
From Rendering, physics... down to the lighting engine. idTech5 uses pre-baked light maps, but Tango wanted dynamic lighting for The Evil Within. So, it took a huge amount of coding to change the engine.

This also meant, removing MegaTextures and revamping the rendering pipeline for the engine.
The Evil Within uses DirectX, while idTech5 (as with all idTech engines) was coded for OpenGL.


John Carmack even removed dynamic lighting from idTech5 because the impact it had on performance was too high.


idTech5 works great, when it's left as is.
But, it seems to fall apart when it's tampered with, which it was never meant to be modified. Carmack built it for one very specific reason, to manage a 1:1 control latency at 60fps, he also designed the engine for the Xbox 360.
Stating the engine was never intended to be used past that generation.

He had always planned to build a new engine for the next generation of hardware, an engine more PC friendly. But, he left before doing so.

The Evil Within's performance problems came from Tango's work in trying to cobble idTech5 into what they needed.

[DogMeat]

^ Nailed it. Also, while Evil Within ran poorly for release their December 2014 patch dramatically improved performance for me.

IF TEW 2 uses id Tech 5 it is entirely possible the engine has been improved/optimized.

Also, unless it was some sort of mistake/confusion with the original game, another forum goer pointed out that the PS4 store mentions id Tech on TEW 2 page.

"The Evil Within® 2 © 2017 ZeniMax Media Inc. Developed in association with Tango Gameworks. The Evil Within, Tango, Tango Gameworks, Bethesda, Bethesda Softworks, ZeniMax and related logos are registered trademarks or trademarks of ZeniMax Media Inc. in the U.S. and/or other countries. id Tech and related logos are registered trademarks or trademarks of id Software LLC in the U.S. and/or other countries. All Rights Reserved."

^ Note the bold "id Tech and related logos".

https://store.playstation.com/#!/en-us/games/the-evil-within-2/cid=UP1003-CUSA06166_00-PRJGDN0000000000?gclid=CKTclYnzwNQCFUpNfgodxOEDOA

[NeverSleeper]

If they release TEW2 with the same kind of performance issues the first game had it will tank. Not because the game is bad (because it looks ****ing amazing!), but because the developers didnt learn from their mistakes. Crossing my fingers! The PSN store apparently says it runs on Id Tech but doesn't specify which one, so UE4 is out of the question.

[DogMeat]

Originally posted by KazukoGurezaki:

If they release TEW2 with the same kind of performance issues the first game had it will tank. Not because the game is bad (because it looks ****ing amazing!), but because the developers didnt learn from their mistakes. Crossing my fingers! The PSN store apparently says it runs on Id Tech but doesn't specify which one, so UE4 is out of the question.

After the amazing work they did fixing the game with I have faith they've learned from their mistakes.

It could be either 5 or 6. I really wouldn't be surprised after all the work they put into it if it was their modified 5 engine again. Then again both Evil Within & New Order came out in 2014 on id Tech 5 and both are getting sequels this year with New Order under id Tech 6. Entirely possible Tango switched to 6 as well.

Time will tell.

[misterwonderfulrex]

hell yeah doom 2 is a awesome choice next year i love doom games

[mP3+Z]

Hope it's id tech 6 becuz the texture in the evil within is catastrophic.

[✟METATRON✟]

Unfortunally, wikipedia says that this is id Tech 5 =(
But who knows is this true or false.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Evil_Within_2

[DogMeat]

Originally posted by ✟METATRON✟:

Unfortunally, wikipedia says that this is id Tech 5 =(
But who knows is this true or false.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Evil_Within_2

IF true I'm happy. Maybe the only one but the way I see it, they've been working on their varation of id Tech 5 since before 2014 so I'm sure they've made improvements. Id tech 5 games also ran great for me.

That said take wikipedia with a grain of salt... until they at least provide a source for that. The only mention of 'id Tech' I've seen was on the PS Store and no mention of which version.

[BoneyHead95]

Originally posted by DogMeat:

Originally posted by ✟METATRON✟:

Unfortunally, wikipedia says that this is id Tech 5 =(
But who knows is this true or false.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Evil_Within_2

IF true I'm happy. Maybe the only one but the way I see it, they've been working on their varation of id Tech 5 since before 2014 so I'm sure they've made improvements. Id tech 5 games also ran great for me.

That said take wikipedia with a grain of salt... until they at least provide a source for that. The only mention of 'id Tech' I've seen was on the PS Store and no mention of which version.

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[mP3+Z]

OK...I saw the gameplay tailer, the graphics looks like tech 5, but not at its best performance (compare to Wolfenstein).

[MFJONES]

Anyone have further word on this? Probably my biggest concern for this game.

[TastyPillows]

I think I heard it's running on what they call the STEAM engine.
Probably a overhaul of idTech.