[SPOILERS!] After finishing the game, there are quite some questions left...

[PorcusGrunzus]

If you didn't finish the game and don't want to spoiler yourself, move on.

Wow, what a amazing game with a good story. Somehow there are quite a few questions I have which are either not answered or I missed them.

1. What the hell is with Ruvik? The ending of TEW1 seemed like he was able to escape with Leslies body. There is no note at all about him in the game. Possible TEW3?

2. Is Myra really "dead"? The ending after the credits showed the Stem system abandoned, probably around 3 years later but its suddenly booting up again. First I wonder why the Mobius facility wasn't destroyed, second why does Stem boot again? Was Myra able to restore it? Or maybe someone else? Maybe Ruvik has taken over the facility and continues his research? TEW3?

3. What happened to Sykes? He wasn't shown after finishing the secondary missions for him. Was he able to survive and get out? Even if he was, did he escape Mobius or did he die with the other personel in Kidmans attack? Maybe he did just die. 25% chance to survive...

4. Why did all the Mobius personel die anyway? Did Kidman overload their brain chips or what? Can be that I missed something... Seeing the Administrator just die like that was kind of a "meh" ending for him.

5. Joseph is alive?! It was mentioned by Kidman after collecting all of the photos and she was supposed to explain it after the event is over. Well, we didn't see or hear any of it. TEW3?

6. What is the deal with this black cat? It was already in the DLCs for the first game and usually marked a save haven for the player. But it was also displayed in the office of the Administrator. Is it his cat? Why is it in Stem anyway? Kidmans memories projected it into the DLCs levels I guess but what has Sebastian to do with it? He never saw the cat... HUH?!

7. There was this ghostly woman which hunted Sebastian several times and she takes part in some kind of optional story mission. However, its not clear why she hunted Sebastian or what she was anyway. Maybe she is tied to the events of the first game? Considering she is always in such backflash missions. I personally didn't get the "creature". Maybe it was supposed to be something that haunted Sebastian from back then? Myra? Really no idea. Also there was no real bossfight where the creature gets killed.

Are there answers given to any of those questions? Lets discuss and think about it.
Maybe there will also be DLCs for TEW2? No idea. Maybe TEW3 is supposed to answer many of those open questions.

[Phishfood]

3. Sykes wasn't aware of the plan to get Lily out so I think he probably got his brain fried by the chip. He was going to take the chip out anyway but I don't think he would have known to take it out ASAP.

7. I think it's just a representation of Sebastian's fear of thinking he's still stuck in STEM from this first game.

[SuperBeasto]

No one wondering why the ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ lily is still the same age as when they kidnapped her?
wouldnt she be older outside of stem?

im thinking they gonna use joseph as a dlc and have him track down ruvik
or use him as the protaganist in evil within 3. since tatianna said this will be the last time we will be seeing her. so im guessing we're gonna be playing as joseph now or kidman who knows.

[PorcusGrunzus]

Hm. Yeah, dont know how many years have passed since the kidnapping. If its only 2-3 years its reasonable I guess. But generally it doesn't make much sense. Sebastian clearly looks older, just a bit.

Would be cool to play with Joseph in the third game and track down Ruvik. Would make sense actually. Maybe Kidman supports him but considering she doesn't want to be in the police anymore, I dunno... Same for Sebastian. Wonder if he goes back to his job. Maybe all are united again like in the first part.

[Neurological]

1 - That I would like to know too, Leslie just went away like that, is weird Mobius didn't take him anymore to continue the STEM project since was their objective all along, maybe they did and thats not the only STEM machine existing.

2 - Myra mention to become the Core during the ending to be able to take control and let Kidman activate the procedure that fries Mobius brains, it is possible that she isn't completly dead and her conciousness is stuck in STEM, her body probably died in real world, but Ruvik too had no body even if just a brain, could be Myra is just conciousness stuck in it.

3 - I think Sykes is dead one way or another, if you read the terminal near the pod after he is gone only 25% of subjects made out of STEM that way alive, if he was lucky and he did probably got shot by mobius, if that didn't happen too then got his brain fried by the chip.

4 - Yeah Kidman start the command to fry their chips, once Myra took the role of the Core and could activate that procedure.

5 - Probably DLC.

6 - I think is Kidman that put the cat there since was for her a "save spot" so maybe Sebastian could have had use for it, the cat gives you gel by talking with Kidman about the slides, so yeah I guess is Kidman projection.

7 - I do think too is just the representation of guilt and fear from Beacon, she stop appearing when you deal with the whole plot of that, if you notice in the last encounter inside the asylum she sing the mirror song, I thought at first was Tatiana, but I think is just the representation of the worst of Beacon.

[SuperBeasto]

Originally posted by LucyTheSuccubus:

Hm. Yeah, dont know how many years have passed since the kidnapping. If its only 2-3 years its reasonable I guess. But generally it doesn't make much sense. Sebastian clearly looks older, just a bit.

It’s been over 3 years that’s for sure because she was kidnapped before evil within 1. she “died” in 2012 idk when evil within 2 takes place. She’s supposed to be way older once out of stem. I still think they’re inside it.

I’m still annoyed they haven’t explained tatianna yet hope we get answers on a dlc or something

[Wicked Spectre]

There was a tombstone in the game that showed "Lily Castellanos 2006-2012." Evil Within 2 happens in 2017 (Since the Beacon incident happened in 2014, and Evil Within 2 happens "3 years later"). So if she was born in 2006 and it's 2017, she's supposed to be 11 years old, so yeah it is kind of weird.

[SuperBeasto]

Originally posted by wicked:

There was a tombstone in the game that showed "Lily Castellanos 2006-2012." Evil Within 2 happens in 2017 (Since the Beacon incident happened in 2014, and Evil Within 2 happens "3 years later"). So if she was born in 2006 and it's 2017, she's supposed to be 11 years old, so yeah it is kind of weird.

nice thanks for confirming this.

[SuperBeasto]

Any other theories to contribute or details we might have missed?

[TastyPillows]

1. I'm guessing Ruvik's story isnt going to be touched in the future, I personally didnt like the ending of the original and i honestly think they dont know how to continue it in an interesting way.

2. Kinda, not really. I like to think she's alive. I guess they will do a sequel. I didnt see her in the STEM room so i guess she might be connected in a different location. I hope the sequel is Kidman as the main protagonist. GIVE SEBASTIAN A BREAK!

3. Eh, this is up to you to decide.

4. Mayra taking control of Mobius gave Kidman control over the Mobius chips. Allowing her to kill them all. It was all part of the plan.

5. Kidman had no reason to lie. Joespeh is alive

6. No idea, don't think too much about it.

7. Anima is what they call her. Italian for Soul. Much like the first Evil Within she is the manifestation of a charcters past experience (Ruvik's Keeper is his secrets). Like Neurological said, Anima is a manifestation of Sebastians guilt and fears. It only makes sense.

My question is, Who is Tatiana? I didnt think of her as much in the first game. But is she even a real person?

[Ligma Male]

Lily not growing can easily be explained by the fact that she is locked inside that pressurized tube with an unknown solution to just keep her in that "cryogenic" state forever. Malnutrition is enough to ♥♥♥♥ up a kid's health and growth, while this is surely out of the question.


In regards to STEM, I am still not sure if it is even the same STEM from EW2 in aftercredits.
It could potentially be the STEM facility in EW1, since it looked all abandoned and stuff.
Or it could be a scene in the future of the EW2 facility being ran down.

Joseph Oda is definitely kept for some sort of DLC content in the future, or the next game (most likely DLC though).

[Ligma Male]

Originally posted by PhantomPillow:

1. I'm guessing Ruvik's story isnt going to be touched in the future, I personally didnt like the ending of the original and i honestly think they dont know how to continue it in an interesting way.

2. Kinda, not really. I like to think she's alive. I guess they will do a sequel. I didnt see her in the STEM room so i guess she might be connected in a different location. I hope the sequel is Kidman as the main protagonist. GIVE SEBASTIAN A BREAK!

3. Eh, this is up to you to decide.

4. Mayra taking control of Mobius gave Kidman control over the Mobius chips. Allowing her to kill them all. It was all part of the plan.

5. Kidman had no reason to lie. Joespeh is alive

6. No idea, don't think too much about it.

7. Anima is what they call her. Italian for Soul. Much like the first Evil Within she is the manifestation of a charcters past experience (Ruvik's Keeper is his secrets). Like Neurological said, Anima is a manifestation of Sebastians guilt and fears. It only makes sense.

My question is, Who is Tatiana? I didnt think of her as much in the first game. But is she even a real person?

Tatiana was a real nurse that worked at the Beacon hospital. At one point, her "missing person" file appears on the bulleting board.

Since 99% of all the entities inside the first STEM, are actually physically dead, but real patients and personel that were used by Ruvik, Jeminez, and Mobius for experimentation.
Their bodies are dead, but their memories and minds are still floating inside STEM after being connected to Ruvik.

I suppose Sebastian's subconscious fused or interprets itself as Tatiana's image or mind, since she worked as the helper, receptionist, guide around the facility.

[The Badman]

Tatiana was a member of Mobius. You see her at the end of tew1 dlc talking to Gman: http://theevilwithin.wikia.com/wiki/Tatiana_Gutierrez
Well, not like they set out to write a coherent story at all.

[Trapped in Purgatory]

1. Ruvik is either: A, dead as you did smashed his brain in the first game or B, took over Leslie and escaped to the real world to live a normal life with a wife and kids

2. Myra is dead I think because she was gonna commit suicide or something in order to destroy the company. All the guys with chips dies at the end.

3. Probably didn’t make it as Seb told him it might not be the best idea.

4. They are all hooked into the STEM system so when Seb’s wife destroys the core, they all die (or the one closest to the base dies.

5. Seb is not a police officer anymore so he has no reason to talk to Joseph as Joseph was just his coworker and not beneficial to the mission

6. The cat represents nothing.

7. The ghost lady I think is either Seb’s personal guilt chasing him around or a creature created by that artist guy. After you kill the artist, his creations stop coming after you.

[Diego Libe]

1. I think the whole deal with Ruvik will be in a future game, if there is one...

2. I'm not sure about Myra, the whole thing was falling apart; she indeed became a new core for it but who knows?
We all know that stem boot up after some years.

3. Sykes is pretty much dead. Just think about it:
25% of survival, if he didnt survive, he would be lost forever, trapped in a dream inside another dream.
If he survived, waking up again't mobius will would led him to death, everyone of the team was also expendable, he would be shot.
The final answer to this is: Everyone got their head fried with Myra's plan. He didnt had his chip removed.
So yeah, dead.

4. Myra sent a signal that overloaded their brain or such. They died, all of them related to Mobius, as Sykes said, everyone, from the top admin to the people that serves coffee and cleans the bathroom, they were all chipped.
A bunch of innocent people died on this btw. Not everyone at Mobius knew what they were actually doing.

5. I'm pretty sure there will be a DLC about it, including one with Esmeralda.

6. This black cat... I wonder what could he be... It is a fact that outside sources could affect Sebby's room, like the info board on his office room.
Maybe Kidman put him there. What purpose? No idea. I also own a black cat, I would put a copy of it in there just for being a nice companion xD

7. This is what is causing everyone to mutate into the monster. I read everyone's comments here and no one noticed this.
You can assume this monster has a specific appearance for each person accordingly with some info we get from files and persons, but it is the same monster for everyone.
The priest on the church becomes a monster in front of you doing the same animation when that monster grabs you, stealing your soul from your mouth in a blue light effect.
The girl we help from the monsters in chapther 3 end, says that her "husband" was scared looking to a thing over her shoulders that wasn't there (for her) and he started to become one of the monsters, like the priest. There is some files about it too mentioning cold temperature, some growls, etc.

This monster is the personification of each's individual mental issues/problems/guilty/etc and is the cause of the mutation. Nothing can hurt it, except dealing and overcoming your own struggles like Sebby did, that's when she stopped appearing, when he killed his weak self on that bed that was trapped on the events of beacon.

This also makes me want to raise a question, Theodore's fight is pretty much fighting the most significant bosses from previous game. Does the fight with the chainsaw guy changes if we do not overcome his mental issues?
For me, he was about to run away like first game, but he decided that he shouldn't and kicked one of the tables on him, slipped through him, knifed him on the neck and stole the chainsaw to snap him in half...

[Ligma Male]

Originally posted by Diego Libe:

1. I think the whole deal with Ruvik will be in a future game, if there is one...

2. I'm not sure about Myra, the whole thing was falling apart; she indeed became a new core for it but who knows?
We all know that stem boot up after some years.

3. Sykes is pretty much dead. Just think about it:
25% of survival, if he didnt survive, he would be lost forever, trapped in a dream inside another dream.
If he survived, waking up again't mobius will would led him to death, everyone of the team was also expendable, he would be shot.
The final answer to this is: Everyone got their head fried with Myra's plan. He didnt had his chip removed.
So yeah, dead.

4. Myra sent a signal that overloaded their brain or such. They died, all of them related to Mobius, as Sykes said, everyone, from the top admin to the people that serves coffee and cleans the bathroom, they were all chipped.
A bunch of innocent people died on this btw. Not everyone at Mobius knew what they were actually doing.

5. I'm pretty sure there will be a DLC about it, including one with Esmeralda.

6. This black cat... I wonder what could he be... It is a fact that outside sources could affect Sebby's room, like the info board on his office room.
Maybe Kidman put him there. What purpose? No idea. I also own a black cat, I would put a copy of it in there just for being a nice companion xD

7. This is what is causing everyone to mutate into the monster. I read everyone's comments here and no one noticed this.
You can assume this monster has a specific appearance for each person accordingly with some info we get from files and persons, but it is the same monster for everyone.
The priest on the church becomes a monster in front of you doing the same animation when that monster grabs you, stealing your soul from your mouth in a blue light effect.
The girl we help from the monsters in chapther 3 end, says that her "husband" was scared looking to a thing over her shoulders that wasn't there (for her) and he started to become one of the monsters, like the priest. There is some files about it too mentioning cold temperature, some growls, etc.

This monster is the personification of each's individual mental issues/problems/guilty/etc and is the cause of the mutation. Nothing can hurt it, except dealing and overcoming your own struggles like Sebby did, that's when she stopped appearing, when he killed his weak self on that bed that was trapped on the events of beacon.

This also makes me want to raise a question, Theodore's fight is pretty much fighting the most significant bosses from previous game. Does the fight with the chainsaw guy changes if we do not overcome his mental issues?
For me, he was about to run away like first game, but he decided that he shouldn't and kicked one of the tables on him, slipped through him, knifed him on the neck and stole the chainsaw to snap him in half...

Oh ♥♥♥♥, you are right. Only now I remember the file of doctors discussing how people keep tlakign like some sort of force is chasing them, and they can not pin it down.

Then you can clip that to the scene where the priest turns into the monster while pleading and scared.

And Sebastian goes through the same transformation process as the priest, if Anima catches him.

Nice catch man

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Also, I don't think the sidequests will affect the main plot scenes.