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¹³平静 Aug 13, 2023 @ 9:02am
Any info on the next DMC game?
Hope they will go the same way as they did with RE series - remaking the old games. What do you think?
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green monster Aug 13, 2023 @ 10:57am 
Originally posted by ¹³平静:
Hope they will go the same way as they did with RE series - remaking the old games. What do you think?
I would like that, although a DMC6 would be better.

DMC is not a big seller like RE though, don't hold your breath
The series director has been busy with Dragon's Dogma II, so it'll be a while before we hear any DMC news. It sucks, but that's just how Capcom treats any IP that isn't Resident Evil, Street Fighter, or Monster Hunter.
OST Sep 15, 2023 @ 11:33pm 
I would welcome a remake of the original trilogy. I think it would be good for growing the franchise.

The History of DMC video already comes off as WTF-inducing to newbies. Imagine adding DMC5 to the end of that, when that game alone has a plot more convoluted than the rest combined. And then imagine DMC6 "continuing the story" in a similar vein. This franchise is going to become Kingdom Hearts at this rate.

At this point, we probably need either a remake of DMC1/DMC3 or a DMC6 with a new cast. Although Vergil guiding Dante through Hell like their namesakes would be such a self-evident and fun plotline and setting to use that I couldn't say no to that. But otherwise, the series needs a fresh start.
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ElectricMutt Sep 16, 2023 @ 1:16am 
Most people just play through on Devil Hunter, Y spamming, ressurecting with yellow/golden orbs and then never touch it again. This series has an issue in appealing to its audience with its actual value - Sort of like fighter games.

I'd like to see a remake as well, such as what @OST mentions: On that note...

Kingdom Hearts has much worse writing than DMC. It's nowhere near as convoluted and contrived/forced: Considering how 5 is the most "complex" game yet in terms of story, that should tell you everything.

What I'm saying is that making 6 wouldn't push the narrative into KH levels. Not even close.
OST Sep 16, 2023 @ 12:09pm 
Originally posted by ElectricMutt:
A lot less people see the value in games that ask you to become really good at one difficult thing through repeat playthroughs, as opposed to doing a wider variety of easy things in a single playthrough (the infamous action-adventure-RPG hybrid). Multiplayer could motivate players to improve, but it sounds hard to implement in DMC (edit: PvP not coop). I guess a DMC1 remake could experiment with more adventure elements like exploration and call it faithfulness to the Resi origins, not sure how well it would work though.

My KH comparison was admittedly facetious. But the plot of DMC5 sounds pretty extra to people who didn't play it, and this comes on top of four prior games. The target audience of DMC has much lower levels of tolerance for this sort of thing than KH’s, not sure they could handle the History of DMC video once you add DMC5 to it.

There's some risk of the series becoming a parody of itself if it doesn't know when to stop, and DMC5 could be a good place to stop. The remakes could still contain some additional material to tie up loose ends. (Could also be done in lower budget spin-offs with more experimental gameplay.)

Edit2: I'd say spammimg Y and items only became a workable "strategy" starting DMC4, a DMC1 remake should be faithful to OG in terms of difficulty.
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The older titles still hold up till this day. Thanks to HD collection. I wouldn't mind a remake. Not a reboot. If they make 6. What would even be the story? Return of mundus with a new army of demon's? Or angles and demon's go to war? Sparda comes back but is evil? Idk
Ifrit03 Sep 19, 2023 @ 3:16am 
Originally posted by FEAR:
The older titles still hold up till this day. Thanks to HD collection. I wouldn't mind a remake. Not a reboot. If they make 6. What would even be the story? Return of mundus with a new army of demon's? Or angles and demon's go to war? Sparda comes back but is evil? Idk
It doesn't need a great history, Dante is a Devil Hunter, put some demons to kill with a good background in the game and it's ok, it's the gameplay the focus and until now it is awesome
ElectricMutt Sep 19, 2023 @ 10:19am 
@OST
Mentioned the risk of it becoming a parody of itself - Is it just me or did Dante become more Silly with 4 and 5? He's obviously always been kind of lighthearted, but it seems to have taken a new step for the worse imo in 4 and 5.

Maybe you're right about the series having become too layered, but the fact that we still don't know much about Sparda and Eve, Trish, Lady and Nero - I dunno... To me the series has always been pretty light on "lore", whereas KH you need a dictionary by your side to keep up if you didn't play some obscure spinoff, but I get your point.

@FEAR

The HD collection never had the Nintendo Switch additions added, which to me, makes it difficult to return to 3 for this particular iteration. Also not fond of the extremely slow leveling for styles. I understand there are mods, but they can be annoying. I tried to install a style switcher, but it just corrupted my game files, for example...
OST Sep 20, 2023 @ 9:34am 
@ElectricMutt
I agree they flanderized Dante a bit in DMC4. In the 3142 Graphic Artbook, the writer says he struggled with creating Nero and was finally told to write the scenario as if it starred Dante. Only later did they try to come up with ways to distinguish Nero from Dante and one of these was that Dante would play along with Agnus and co while Nero wouldn't. Hence the infamous theater scene etc. I don't think the approach benefitted either character, though as the newbie Nero bore the brunt of the negative reactions.

Dante's DMC5 antics felt more in line with DMC3, but he's older and unhappier in DMC5, so I can see why you'd question it. Guess they were setting up his decision to stay with Vergil in Hell by showing that he hated his life in the Human World and his only joy was fighting. Plus according to DMC5 Art Works, distinguishing Nero from him remained a concern, and if Dante toned things down at the same time former angry serious kid Nero showed more Dante-like playfulness and goofiness, it would have led to a convergence. Besides the fanbase loves Dante's Large Ham energy, even the exaggerated DMC4 version. Makes me wonder how a DMC1 remake would portray him, people will complain if they don’t at least get the DMC5 sad clown variant.

DMC is light on lore, I agree. The story spans over four decades hence why it manages to feel both complicated and full of large holes. Entire decades of Vergil's life are blank, as with Lady and Trish. The cause of Sparda’s death is unknown. It's unclear how Dante lived before the Bobby's Cellar days, as they abandoned the Redgrave family adoption idea for him. Nero though is both a protag and young, so the games and novels cover his life so far pretty well. If the circumstances of his conception were what was hinted at, they won’t say more on that.
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Sith_1ord Sep 22, 2023 @ 8:53pm 
Originally posted by TheSlenderBeer:
Personally would love to see full-fledged remake of DMC3.
DMC3 doesn't need a remake. Just port the Switch version to other consoles and be done with it. They need to stop remaking good games and start remaking bad games, so they can get a chance to be good. That is to say, that DMC2 remake would be a good idea.
Mister Breaker Sep 23, 2023 @ 9:52am 
DMC being banished to remake purgatory is worse than it just being shelved. The tease of potentially new games all to be wasted on remakes would sting too much. Really hope they're working on 6 and there are some signs pointing that way. Mostly with the models for Dante and Nero.
Beer Expert 420 Sep 23, 2023 @ 8:09pm 
Dragons Dogma 2 is supposed to release in 2024. Who knows if they go with DMC 6 or maybe the guy will feel like doing another Onimusha. Since they just did DMC 5 a few years ago.
Vachi Sep 25, 2023 @ 5:43am 
Personally, I think remaking 2 would benefit us the fans and Capcom the most. Dmc2 has a very high potential, but was a missed opportunity because of the director issues and stuff. If they can make it right, we might get one of the best remakes Capcom has put so far.
OST Sep 25, 2023 @ 8:38am 
DMC2 is definitely the game that... has the greatest room for improvement. But Dante was canonically at a low point in his life during this period and Vergil's not in the game. Not sure how much sales potential Capcom sees in no-fun Dante with no Vergil. Companies tend to remake their most beloved titles - the ones that need remakes the least. But remaking the entire trilogy would be interesting in the sense all three games need widely different levels of intervention (fairly faithful remake for DMC3, big changes for DMC2 and somewhere in between for DMC1).

I think that purely gameplay-wise, DMC5 itself can almost be considered a very ambitious remake, since it borrows so heavily from previous games (see enemies and bosses). Some remakes make more aggressive changes to the OG's gameplay than DMC5's innovations. Not having to come up with a whole new story with a new, credible antagonist and new playable characters could allow more resources to go towards gameplay and could even result in a remake that is more original gameplay-wise than DMC5 was.
Sith_1ord Sep 25, 2023 @ 8:46am 
Originally posted by OST:
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Just because Dante is deeply depressed doesn't mean that he has to be sour grapes. Just look at the anime series. His personality was downplayed but still humorous. And even then, Lucia would still be the main focus in the story.
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