Devil May Cry 5

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Black Angel Aug 22, 2024 @ 5:44am
Can Dante and Vergil die ?
I wonder if they can even die, Dante says hoomans are strong in DMC4 but hoomans can die pretty easly compared to Dante/Vergil, thats kinda no sense.
How Sparda died if "demon" can never die ? Nobody can match Vergil/Dante (Arkham, Atrius and the evil clan in DMC4 were joke to them.), only one who almost """killed""" Vergil was Mundus.
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WhiteAngel7 Aug 22, 2024 @ 10:56am 
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Dante and Vergil aren't immortal that's for sure, even if they can survive a lot.
In the Devil May Cry novel Gilver said that if he cuts out Dante's heart, he wouldn't be able to recover, no matter how much demon blood runs through his veins.
I have to point out that the novel is semi-canon, but I guess this statement has a hint of truth. Hideki Kamiya also said that the heart is the most important, so this might be the case, even more that Vergil was "dead" when Mundus removed his human heart.

I also think that their regenerative abilities have their limits when they are exhausted.
About Sparda; it seems that he didn't die completely, honestly it's hard to tell, because in Nico's reports it is written that Sparda sealed himself~ this isn't quite equal to death, although I can't really tell, because every source says differently.

Moreover, we've seen many times that Vergil and Dante were stabbed in the chest with a sword and nothing serious happened to them, but "cutting out" and "stabbing" can have a completely different effect on them and maybe they can't regenerate after that, but who really knows, with them everything is possible, we can only speculate about how and who can kill them.

Apart from that, unfortunately I don't remember Dante's statement from DMC4 that you are referring to, but I assume he meant about human strong fighting spirit and strong will, or rather all the traits that distinguish humans from demons and that give humans an advantage over them.
ar-mour Aug 24, 2024 @ 2:42am 
Originally posted by WhiteAngel7:
Dante and Vergil aren't immortal that's for sure, even if they can survive a lot.
In the Devil May Cry novel Gilver said that if he cuts out Dante's heart, he wouldn't be able to recover, no matter how much demon blood runs through his veins.
I have to point out that the novel is semi-canon, but I guess this statement has a hint of truth. Hideki Kamiya also said that the heart is the most important, so this might be the case, even more that Vergil was "dead" when Mundus removed his human heart.

I also think that their regenerative abilities have their limits when they are exhausted.
About Sparda; it seems that he didn't die completely, honestly it's hard to tell, because in Nico's reports it is written that Sparda sealed himself~ this isn't quite equal to death, although I can't really tell, because every source says differently.

Moreover, we've seen many times that Vergil and Dante were stabbed in the chest with a sword and nothing serious happened to them, but "cutting out" and "stabbing" can have a completely different effect on them and maybe they can't regenerate after that, but who really knows, with them everything is possible, we can only speculate about how and who can kill them.

Apart from that, unfortunately I don't remember Dante's statement from DMC4 that you are referring to, but I assume he meant about human strong fighting spirit and strong will, or rather all the traits that distinguish humans from demons and that give humans an advantage over them.
Damn, I have nothing to add, I like that. Guess Itsuno added things later but didn't change what was introduced with lore. I wonder what's really going on with Sparda now. I had to think for a moment what was going on. Nico report is as a source of information so I believe it. It would be dope to see Sparda in DMC6.
Last edited by ar-mour; Aug 24, 2024 @ 2:44am
aka Aug 29, 2024 @ 10:37am 
In game ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) But no joking they are hard to kill
PetroSeraph Sep 21, 2024 @ 2:47am 
Decapitation is out of the question too haha :praisesun:
MaiiyourCat Sep 21, 2024 @ 9:48am 
Originally posted by WhiteAngel7:
Dante and Vergil aren't immortal that's for sure, even if they can survive a lot.
In the Devil May Cry novel Gilver said that if he cuts out Dante's heart, he wouldn't be able to recover, no matter how much demon blood runs through his veins.
I have to point out that the novel is semi-canon, but I guess this statement has a hint of truth. Hideki Kamiya also said that the heart is the most important, so this might be the case, even more that Vergil was "dead" when Mundus removed his human heart.

I also think that their regenerative abilities have their limits when they are exhausted.
About Sparda; it seems that he didn't die completely, honestly it's hard to tell, because in Nico's reports it is written that Sparda sealed himself~ this isn't quite equal to death, although I can't really tell, because every source says differently.

Moreover, we've seen many times that Vergil and Dante were stabbed in the chest with a sword and nothing serious happened to them, but "cutting out" and "stabbing" can have a completely different effect on them and maybe they can't regenerate after that, but who really knows, with them everything is possible, we can only speculate about how and who can kill them.
They are worse than lizards!
Kavi Sep 22, 2024 @ 3:05am 
White Angel answering to Black Angel, funny lol.
Walter C. Dornez Sep 22, 2024 @ 10:43am 
First things first, if a demon, no matter how damm powerful he once was, gets weak enough, he sure can be killed or maybe even die of old age. Sparda sealed all or like 90% of his power within Rebellion, Yamato and Sparda, and we thought it was only the Sparda Sword itself, but thanks to DMC 5 we know that this is not true. He also lost a ton of blood to seal the Teminigru, after sealing Sparda and turning it into the Force Edge, so there's that too.

Humans aren't weak at all in this universe, because if you look at Lady, how the hell she can move and kill demons that could certainly be faster, stronger and way more resistant than any normal human being? Sure, she can't beat a Dante or Vergil, but that doesn't mean she's weak compared to many of the demons we face in DMC 3. You could say there's little demonic power being used when Dante didn't awake Rebellion yet, or when Nero lost his arm.

Both humans and demons in DMC were created at the same time, one can get stronger through the other one, that's why Dante and Vergil are insanely powerful, besides being the Sons of Sparda. Think about it, they are already getting pretty close to their father's full strength, and i doubt Sparda lived less than 3 digits when living in hell. His sons gonna keep growing way past his prime.
MaiiyourCat Sep 22, 2024 @ 1:16pm 
Has there ever been a case of a demon dying of old age? Have the creators ever confirmed anything? Virgil was dying at the first dmc5 scenes, but the reasons are unknown. People think that he fought too much, but it's not confirmed. And Mundus is sealed, but it means he is trapped, still alive.
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Walter C. Dornez Sep 22, 2024 @ 5:14pm 
Originally posted by MaiiyourCat:
Has there ever been a case of a demon dying of old age? Have the creators ever confirmed anything? Virgil was dying at the first dmc5 scenes, but the reasons are unknown. People think that he fought too much, but it's not confirmed. And Mundus is sealed, but it means he is trapped, still alive.
Sparda is probably the only case, and even then is not 100% certain, but after having almost no more demonic power for over a 2000 years, using Rebellion and Yamato to protect the human world, before he gave them to his sons, was probably taking some serious strain on his demonic body.

Vergil did die back in DMC 1, his soul was probably sent to hell and his body regenerated, but not enough to survive out of it (before the Urizen/V stuff.) That's probably what could have happened to Sparda, not having enough power to maintain his body and live longer, especially out of his world.

Humans can't withstand hell, they are corrupted by it and are driven mad, DMC novel stuff. Demons could get negative effects If they stay too long in the human world too, who knows.
PetroSeraph Sep 23, 2024 @ 2:41am 
Originally posted by MaiiyourCat:
Has there ever been a case of a demon dying of old age? Have the creators ever confirmed anything? Virgil was dying at the first dmc5 scenes, but the reasons are unknown. People think that he fought too much, but it's not confirmed. And Mundus is sealed, but it means he is trapped, still alive.
It was never explained how he died nor if he even died and never confirmed. The dmc problem is that Sparda is like a religion so no facts. What he really did and what happened no one knows. The only sources are game's plot which is the belief of dmc's people world and reports. Looking on what’s happening with dmc they not gonna explain what happened, they will focus on something new...
Last edited by PetroSeraph; Sep 23, 2024 @ 2:43am
MaiiyourCat Sep 25, 2024 @ 2:52am 
So guesses.
Supada Sep 30, 2024 @ 7:40am 
Originally posted by Kavi:
White Angel answering to Black Angel, funny lol.
my q! sweet :GhostLoveEyes:
Supada Sep 30, 2024 @ 7:43am 
abt humans theyre weak :SkullGoldPlated: lady is skiled human just like ppl can be skiled n lady using special n powarful weapon to kill devils. btw @ar-mour n i would wanna see sparda too ngl legend.
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