Was Vergil really evil :: Devil May Cry 5 Genel Tartışmalar

Mağaza Sayfası

Devil May Cry 5

Tümü Tartışmalar Ekran Görüntüleri Çizimler Yayınlar Videolar Haberler Rehberler İncelemeler

Devil May Cry 5 > Genel Tartışmalar > Konu Detayları

Yoticos

13 Şub 2024 @ 12:56

Was Vergil really evil

What do you think?

Bu başlığın sahibi kendi sorularının cevabı olarak bir gönderiyi seçti.
O gönderiye gitmek için buraya tıklayın.

İlk olarak gönderen kişi: WhiteAngel7:

It depends on how you perceive Vergil. Devil May Cry series isn’t black-and-white and obviously everyone has a different perspective. I will elaborate a bit.
I see it this way; It can be recognized that Vergil's alignment is/was Lawful Evil, in short, he generally does what he wants to achieve his goals, whether it's good or bad, based on his own code or believes. I also think that Vergil's reason wasn't just to seek power to defeat Dante, because it's quite shallow for such a character. I think that Vergil (just like Dante) probably resents their father that there was no one to protect them when the demons attacked their family when they were little. Their mother hid Dante and ran to look for him and she got killed. In these times Vergil had to save himself alone and couldn’t warn his family on time, so after that I think Vergil was convinced that no one would help him anyway, the only one who can protect him is he himself, hence his desire for power, just like he said "…without strength, you cannot protect anything.” Seeing how traumatized Vergil was (with Dante as well), he wanted to build "a shell" around himself.

Vergil abandoned his human heritage and only accepted his demonic, where Dante was the opposite. I think that rejection of humanity could make an influence on Vergil too, because of the fact that demons have an evil nature themselves (with exceptions like Sparda). Before the events in DMC3, I believe that Vergil had moments of some normality with Nero’s mother. Maybe there would be a chance in this woman to get Vergil to sort himself out, but his searching for more power just consumed him totally. I can't tell.

In DMC5, his human half V realized how many bad things he did as Vergil and what atrocities his demon half is doing now, so it started to make me wonder that maybe Vergil didn't have much control over himself earlier, because as I mentioned, he rejected his human side, so this "V” couldn't talk some sense into him. On the other hand, maybe he knew what he was doing, but then why only V, who could look at everything clearly, understood it later.

There are also a few questions. Did Vergil want to save himself, so he separated his human and demon halves and thought that his demon half would be alone strong enough to defeat Dante? Did he know what Urizen would do to gain more power? Everyone can only speculate.
However, let's make one thing clear: Vergil had no intention of killing people in the first place. It wasn't his goal. He was indifferent to their existence, although V saved the mother and child himself and it was selfless (Visions of V~ manga).
Finally, Vergil accepted his human heritage and along with Dante no longer intended to kill each other. Instead of that they make a sparring in Hell while talking like siblings again.

To sum up, is he evil or isn’t he? I would say maybe lost. Vergil is the most misunderstood character in the entire series, but these are my conclusions, everyone can have a different opinion and think the opposite. For me Vergil isn’t a vilian, but he is an anti-hero. Although it doesn't mean that Nero and Dante are completely good and pure characters. They may have good hearts, but they also have their own issues.

< >

219 yorumdan 16 ile 30 arası gösteriliyor

Yoticos

18 Şub 2024 @ 12:49

İlk olarak 2cide tarafından gönderildi:
bros dont read.
didnt even pay attention when virgil had a bruh moment and said "if our places were swapped would we have still done the same thing"

that's the problem, people don't read the dialogues, don't pay attention to details. If they read, they can't derive meaning from what the characters say or do. My view became more clear that Virgil is not as evil as some people make him out to be complete evil, as if they didn't want to understand the character at all because they were already so negative to him from the very beginning as I read

En son Yoticos tarafından düzenlendi; 18 Şub 2024 @ 12:49

#16

aka

18 Şub 2024 @ 14:01

İlk olarak Yoticos tarafından gönderildi:
İlk olarak 2cide tarafından gönderildi:
bros dont read.
didnt even pay attention when virgil had a bruh moment and said "if our places were swapped would we have still done the same thing"
that's the problem, people don't read the dialogues, don't pay attention to details. If they read, they can't derive meaning from what the characters say or do. My view became more clear that Virgil is not as evil as some people make him out to be complete evil, as if they didn't want to understand the character at all because they were already so negative to him from the very beginning as I read

Vergil said it in too poetic way, so not many understood what he meant - very Vergil. Our community doesn't like to put their brains to work and they like to have everything handed to them on a silver platter.

#17

aka

18 Şub 2024 @ 14:02

İlk olarak Mr. tarafından gönderildi:
@WhiteAngel7 spits facts in a SSStylish way.

Smoking Sexy Style way

#18

NeroZero

18 Şub 2024 @ 16:49

._.

#19

PetroSeraph Devil May Cry 5 sahibi

18 Şub 2024 @ 17:24

İlk olarak Yoticos tarafından gönderildi:
İlk olarak 2cide tarafından gönderildi:
bros dont read.
didnt even pay attention when virgil had a bruh moment and said "if our places were swapped would we have still done the same thing"
that's the problem, people don't read the dialogues, don't pay attention to details. If they read, they can't derive meaning from what the characters say or do. My view became more clear that Virgil is not as evil as some people make him out to be complete evil, as if they didn't want to understand the character at all because they were already so negative to him from the very beginning as I read

And Vergil is very, very, very complicated, so I agree not everyone will want this. Simplicity

#20

⛧Jᴀᴄᴏʙ⛧

19 Şub 2024 @ 8:02

İlk olarak mmm uhhgn tarafından gönderildi:
he really is: yet another monstrous demon like the thousands we kill in-game. The only difference is that this one has a pretty face and a banger soundtrack.

Wait. By this you think that Virgil is liked only because he is very good-looking and has a dope OST?
Don't forget he is 2 meters tall, has perfectly sculpted masculine body, hot voice and dope style
ALL TRUE.
but (what).
What a wtf arguments are these. This difference. Virgil can be liked from more reasons than only his appearance bro. He never gives in, determined, motivated, composed, confident
and you compare Virgil to regular demons in game. lidiculous. limited worldview. Virgil has a heart and feelings even if you hate it, its true. I won't repeat what others said.

En son ⛧Jᴀᴄᴏʙ⛧ tarafından düzenlendi; 19 Şub 2024 @ 11:08

#21

aka

19 Şub 2024 @ 12:23

İlk olarak ⛧Jᴀᴄᴏʙ⛧ tarafından gönderildi:
İlk olarak mmm uhhgn tarafından gönderildi:
he really is: yet another monstrous demon like the thousands we kill in-game. The only difference is that this one has a pretty face and a banger soundtrack.
Wait. By this you think that Virgil is liked only because he is very good-looking and has a dope OST?
Don't forget he is 2 meters tall, has perfectly sculpted masculine body, hot voice and dope style
ALL TRUE.
but (what).
What a wtf arguments are these. This difference. Virgil can be liked from more reasons than only his appearance bro. He never gives in, determined, motivated, composed, confident
and you compare Virgil to regular demons in game. lidiculous. limited worldview. Virgil has a heart and feelings even if you hate it, its true. I won't repeat what others said.

Ambition that Dante doesn't have + appearance that Dante doesn't have at all xD + Dante doesn't give a sh*t and has no problem to bond with Vergil again, so there is no problem

En son aka tarafından düzenlendi; 19 Şub 2024 @ 12:23

#22

Buckingham Joe Devil May Cry 5 sahibi

19 Şub 2024 @ 13:11

İlk olarak ⛧Jᴀᴄᴏʙ⛧ tarafından gönderildi:
İlk olarak mmm uhhgn tarafından gönderildi:
he really is: yet another monstrous demon like the thousands we kill in-game. The only difference is that this one has a pretty face and a banger soundtrack.
Wait. By this you think that Virgil is liked only because he is very good-looking and has a dope OST?

That's not at all what I said but go off

#23

justinproxhh Devil May Cry 5 sahibi

19 Şub 2024 @ 19:26

#24

omniscient 20 Şub 2024 @ 12:56

nah he was just trying to evade child support
like a based person would do

#25

aka

20 Şub 2024 @ 14:33

İlk olarak Valuable Employee tarafından gönderildi:
nah he was just trying to evade child support
like a based person would do

Old!

#26

⛧Jᴀᴄᴏʙ⛧

22 Şub 2024 @ 3:18

İlk olarak mmm uhhgn tarafından gönderildi:
İlk olarak ⛧Jᴀᴄᴏʙ⛧ tarafından gönderildi:
Wait. By this you think that Virgil is liked only because he is very good-looking and has a dope OST?
Don't forget he is 2 meters tall, has perfectly sculpted masculine body, hot voice and dope style
ALL TRUE.
but (what).
What a wtf arguments are these. This difference. Virgil can be liked from more reasons than only his appearance bro. He never gives in, determined, motivated, composed, confident
and you compare Virgil to regular demons in game. lidiculous. limited worldview. Virgil has a heart and feelings even if you hate it, its true. I won't repeat what others said.
That's not at all what I said but go off

You said many other but I said that I won't repeat what others said about your reasoning, because they already did it
I saw other thing-

İlk olarak mmm uhhgn tarafından gönderildi:
if not millions of innocents were still dying on his behalf despite already achieving his goal of not only survival but also ultimate power with the whole "iF YoU WaNT ThE YaMaTO thEn yOu'LL HavE TO takE iT xd UwU" line that leads into the M19 boss fight bruh.

Why Virgil would give yamato to Dante, take the risk and get himself killed, this sword is his be or not to be, his source of power, I don't know why counted on it. Dante know they will fight, he wanted it himself as always, his reason for fighting

#27

⛧Jᴀᴄᴏʙ⛧

22 Şub 2024 @ 3:47

İlk olarak PetroSeraph tarafından gönderildi:
Second thing as I said Vergil didn't make a mess, that time Urizen did, evil itself.
Nobody cares about people in this game. Dante care of his own buissness, Nero didn't help people from being killed by Qliphoth roots, 'cause he cared more of his own faliure when fighting Urizen, and he belongs to the Order of the sword, not so friendly organization.
Vergil is still aware what happened, because V admited what a mess Urizen did. But Vergil won't admit it to Dante "yes brother thats my bad" because Vergil is too pround to do this to his little bro. That would never happen.
But people can be worse evil than devils themselves. Dmc doesn't have heroes.
I agree the game don't care about whats good or not, many things are unexplained they want us to understand it for ourselves depends on morals.

Me too, I didn't see at the end that Dante and Nero were concered of people, only thier own business and family drama. Vergil admitted himself of this mess when he said "That day, if our positions were switched... Would our fates be different?"

#28