Devil May Cry 5

Devil May Cry 5

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Yoticos 13 Thg02, 2024 @ 12:56pm
Was Vergil really evil
What do you think?
Nguyên văn bởi WhiteAngel7:
It depends on how you perceive Vergil. Devil May Cry series isn’t black-and-white and obviously everyone has a different perspective. I will elaborate a bit.
I see it this way; It can be recognized that Vergil's alignment is/was Lawful Evil, in short, he generally does what he wants to achieve his goals, whether it's good or bad, based on his own code or believes. I also think that Vergil's reason wasn't just to seek power to defeat Dante, because it's quite shallow for such a character. I think that Vergil (just like Dante) probably resents their father that there was no one to protect them when the demons attacked their family when they were little. Their mother hid Dante and ran to look for him and she got killed. In these times Vergil had to save himself alone and couldn’t warn his family on time, so after that I think Vergil was convinced that no one would help him anyway, the only one who can protect him is he himself, hence his desire for power, just like he said "…without strength, you cannot protect anything.” Seeing how traumatized Vergil was (with Dante as well), he wanted to build "a shell" around himself.

Vergil abandoned his human heritage and only accepted his demonic, where Dante was the opposite. I think that rejection of humanity could make an influence on Vergil too, because of the fact that demons have an evil nature themselves (with exceptions like Sparda). Before the events in DMC3, I believe that Vergil had moments of some normality with Nero’s mother. Maybe there would be a chance in this woman to get Vergil to sort himself out, but his searching for more power just consumed him totally. I can't tell.

In DMC5, his human half V realized how many bad things he did as Vergil and what atrocities his demon half is doing now, so it started to make me wonder that maybe Vergil didn't have much control over himself earlier, because as I mentioned, he rejected his human side, so this "V” couldn't talk some sense into him. On the other hand, maybe he knew what he was doing, but then why only V, who could look at everything clearly, understood it later.

There are also a few questions. Did Vergil want to save himself, so he separated his human and demon halves and thought that his demon half would be alone strong enough to defeat Dante? Did he know what Urizen would do to gain more power? Everyone can only speculate.
However, let's make one thing clear: Vergil had no intention of killing people in the first place. It wasn't his goal. He was indifferent to their existence, although V saved the mother and child himself and it was selfless (Visions of V~ manga).
Finally, Vergil accepted his human heritage and along with Dante no longer intended to kill each other. Instead of that they make a sparring in Hell while talking like siblings again.

To sum up, is he evil or isn’t he? I would say maybe lost. Vergil is the most misunderstood character in the entire series, but these are my conclusions, everyone can have a different opinion and think the opposite. For me Vergil isn’t a vilian, but he is an anti-hero. Although it doesn't mean that Nero and Dante are completely good and pure characters. They may have good hearts, but they also have their own issues.
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aka 14 Thg04 @ 3:35am 
Nguyên văn bởi Supada:
pal but dante is virgin himself. so u say dante want to kill himself? thats a S word :SkullGoldPlated: ma poor boy never had smash
40s virgin Donte
Even Nero got it
Lần sửa cuối bởi aka; 14 Thg04 @ 3:35am
aka 14 Thg04 @ 3:38am 
Nguyên văn bởi Supada:
Nguyên văn bởi Arc:
Dante doesn't want to kill Vergil and never has. Also, if he did, that would be based, not evil.
1st scene in dmc5 when vergil appear. what dante do. jump on him w/ his sword.
trying kilin ur sibling is bad my pal.
@Supada Uno card - reverse
@Arc you have weird view of reality if killing/hurting your own bro isn't evil thing to do UwU + you didn't play in 'UwU game' with me, so I'm feeling offended
Lần sửa cuối bởi aka; 14 Thg04 @ 3:39am
Arc 14 Thg04 @ 8:16am 
Hurting your brother is fun, I used to do it all the time :raksasihappy:
Its called bonding
I remember one time he suplexed me off a table, I was hospitalized, but it was funny in hindsight
aka 14 Thg04 @ 9:18am 
Nguyên văn bởi Arc:
Hurting your brother is fun, I used to do it all the time :raksasihappy:
Its called bonding
I remember one time he suplexed me off a table, I was hospitalized, but it was funny in hindsight
So vergil isn't evil, see we understand each other.
aka 14 Thg04 @ 9:20am 
Nguyên văn bởi Ray:
Nguyên văn bởi Arc:
Dante doesn't want to kill Virgin and never has. Also, if he did, that would be based, not evil.
You don't kill virgins. You sacrifice them.
lmfao

Vergil: Why isn't this working? Is there something missing? Must more blood be shed? Or sacrifice virgin or something?
Dante appeared: You seem to be in bad mood.
Vergil: Perfect.
Lần sửa cuối bởi aka; 14 Thg04 @ 9:21am
Supada 16 Thg04 @ 2:58am 
Nguyên văn bởi aka:
Nguyên văn bởi Ray:
You don't kill virgins. You sacrifice them.
lmfao

Vergil: Why isn't this working? Is there something missing? Must more blood be shed? Or sacrifice virgin or something?
Dante appeared: You seem to be in bad mood.
Vergil: Perfect.
noo pal ma bae! :SkullGoldPlated:
aka 17 Thg04 @ 3:41pm 
Nguyên văn bởi Supada:
Nguyên văn bởi aka:
lmfao

Vergil: Why isn't this working? Is there something missing? Must more blood be shed? Or sacrifice virgin or something?
Dante appeared: You seem to be in bad mood.
Vergil: Perfect.
noo pal ma bae! :SkullGoldPlated:
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ar-mour 20 Thg04 @ 12:22am 
I love Vergil ♥
Supada 21 Thg04 @ 12:28am 
Nguyên văn bởi ar-mour:
I love Vergil ♥
me too pal
Arc 21 Thg04 @ 4:53am 
Vergil bullied Nero so he's fine by me
Wait like nearly a decade for new DMC, play half the game as Nero with maybe 3 new attacks not attached to consumables
Absolute trash character
Supada 25 Thg04 @ 3:27pm 
buly kids. luv it
aka 27 Thg04 @ 4:39am 
Nguyên văn bởi Supada:
buly kids. luv it
I bully nero too, let him die 1000x times against Vergil <3
Yorik 28 Thg04 @ 8:09am 
Nguyên văn bởi WhiteAngel7:
It depends on how you perceive Vergil. Devil May Cry series isn’t black-and-white and obviously everyone has a different perspective. I will elaborate a bit.
I see it this way; It can be recognized that Vergil's alignment is/was Lawful Evil, in short, he generally does what he wants to achieve his goals, whether it's good or bad, based on his own code or believes.

I'd argue it's objectively bad to release hell on earth to seize power over this world and hell and in doing so knowingly getting millions of people killed. But maybe that's just me.
Nguyên văn bởi Yorik:
Nguyên văn bởi WhiteAngel7:
It depends on how you perceive Vergil. Devil May Cry series isn’t black-and-white and obviously everyone has a different perspective. I will elaborate a bit.
I see it this way; It can be recognized that Vergil's alignment is/was Lawful Evil, in short, he generally does what he wants to achieve his goals, whether it's good or bad, based on his own code or believes.

I'd argue it's objectively bad to release hell on earth to seize power over this world and hell and in doing so knowingly getting millions of people killed. But maybe that's just me.
I love people who don't read the whole part of the answers and just take some part of someone's thoughts, taking things out of context. Vergil demon half is evil, but not Vergil alone, that's how I understood it. But maybe that's just me.
Lần sửa cuối bởi MaiiyourCat; 28 Thg04 @ 8:22am
Yorik 28 Thg04 @ 8:30am 
Nguyên văn bởi MaiiyourCat:
Nguyên văn bởi Yorik:

I'd argue it's objectively bad to release hell on earth to seize power over this world and hell and in doing so knowingly getting millions of people killed. But maybe that's just me.
I love people who don't read the whole part of the answers and just take some part of someone's thoughts, taking things out of context. Vergil demon half is evil, but not Vergil alone, that's how I understood it. But maybe that's just me.
How does that defeat the point that what he does is evil and wrong? Like, it's really not even up to matter of perspective or opinion, if you think this is morally ambiguous something is wrong with your judgment. If you have to beat someone's ass every decade or so to stop them from violently taking over the world they are not a good person.
Lần sửa cuối bởi Yorik; 28 Thg04 @ 8:37am
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