Devil May Cry 5

Devil May Cry 5

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Can they die?
Can Dante and Vergil die? something what could kill them right away? or are they immortal?
Messaggio originale di WhiteAngel7:
Just like MrXBX wrote, Dante and Verge aren't immortal and that's for sure, even if they can survive a lot.
In the Devil May Cry novel Gilver said that if he cut out Dante's heart, he wouldn't be able to recover, no matter how much demon blood runs through his veins.
I have to point out that the novel is semi-canon, but I guess this statement has a hint of truth. Hideki Kamiya also said that the heart is the most important, so this might be the case, even more that Vergil was "dead" when Mundus removed his heart.

Moreover, we've seen many times that these two were stabbed in the chest with a sword and nothing serious happened to them, but "cutting out" and "stabbing" are probably two different stuffs and maybe they can't regenerate after that, but who really knows, with them everything is possible~
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Dante and Vergil absolutely can die, its just really hard to kill them. The main problem, outside of their power, is their healing ability. The two of them have so many feats when in comes to the amount of damage they can walk off: Dante getting shish-kabobed by his enemies or on his own sword constantly or Vergil getting cleaved in half by Dante or being tortured by Mundus for a decade. Its assumable that overwhelming their healing abilities would kill them after a while or something like incineration or decapitation would do the trick. But that's assuming Dante or Vergil would let that happen. They seem to age at a normal human rate (Dante less gracefully than Vergil), so death by old age could be on the table. Not to forget, the plot of this game is a result of Vergil dying because of his torture and enslavement by Mundus, saved only by the qliphoth fruit. Dante is also put into a coma from Urizen thrashing him. TLDR, Dante and Vergil can be killed, but good luck trying.
In short resume, demons in the DMC series possess the ability to enter Devil Trigger, a state that enhances their strength and abilities. While in Devil Trigger, demons maintain their peak physical condition and do not age in the same way humans do. They can appear youthful and resilient to damage for an extended period of time.
The demons in Devil Trigger (DT) may have heightened strength and longevity, it is important to note that they can still be killed under certain circumstances. While the demons in the DMC universe are incredibly powerful, they may encounter adversaries or situations that can potentially overpower or destroy them, even in their enhanced state.
The specifics of aging and immortality for demons in Devil May Cry can very depending on individual demons, their lineage, and the events of the storyline .
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Just like MrXBX wrote, Dante and Verge aren't immortal and that's for sure, even if they can survive a lot.
In the Devil May Cry novel Gilver said that if he cut out Dante's heart, he wouldn't be able to recover, no matter how much demon blood runs through his veins.
I have to point out that the novel is semi-canon, but I guess this statement has a hint of truth. Hideki Kamiya also said that the heart is the most important, so this might be the case, even more that Vergil was "dead" when Mundus removed his heart.

Moreover, we've seen many times that these two were stabbed in the chest with a sword and nothing serious happened to them, but "cutting out" and "stabbing" are probably two different stuffs and maybe they can't regenerate after that, but who really knows, with them everything is possible~
Messaggio originale di MrXBX:
Dante and Vergil absolutely can die, its just really hard to kill them. The main problem, outside of their power, is their healing ability. The two of them have so many feats when in comes to the amount of damage they can walk off: Dante getting shish-kabobed by his enemies or on his own sword constantly or Vergil getting cleaved in half by Dante or being tortured by Mundus for a decade. Its assumable that overwhelming their healing abilities would kill them after a while or something like incineration or decapitation would do the trick. But that's assuming Dante or Vergil would let that happen. They seem to age at a normal human rate (Dante less gracefully than Vergil), so death by old age could be on the table. Not to forget, the plot of this game is a result of Vergil dying because of his torture and enslavement by Mundus, saved only by the qliphoth fruit. Dante is also put into a coma from Urizen thrashing him. TLDR, Dante and Vergil can be killed, but good luck trying.
XD thanks for long answer pal! Yeah they can heal so this is almost impossible to kill sparda bros I saw once that it is possible to kill them by decapitation but not confirmed, and won't they heal after that anyway? cuz if they can heal tbh everything. Good god don't talk to me about aging Vergil looks less than 40 and Dante looks more than 60 what the hell have they done to him XD btw is it weird that they regen but they age? if they can heal damaged parts they should regen obsolete too. but maybe they also age to a certain point?
Messaggio originale di WhiteAngel7:
Just like MrXBX wrote, Dante and Verge aren't immortal and that's for sure, even if they can survive a lot.
In the Devil May Cry novel Gilver said that if he cut out Dante's heart, he wouldn't be able to recover, no matter how much demon blood runs through his veins.
I have to point out that the novel is semi-canon, but I guess this statement has a hint of truth. Hideki Kamiya also said that the heart is the most important, so this might be the case, even more that Vergil was "dead" when Mundus removed his heart.

Moreover, we've seen many times that these two were stabbed in the chest with a sword and nothing serious happened to them, but "cutting out" and "stabbing" are probably two different stuffs and maybe they can't regenerate after that, but who really knows, with them everything is possible~
omggg Angel! O-O many thanks for comprehensive answer too which simply answering my question on what can kill them for all, it makes sense tbh, cuz I saw holy water human weapon demon power magic do a ♥♥♥♥ to them and they heal asap. I didn't even associate it with the fact that Vergil was dead by it.
Btw luv your profillo :GhostLoveEyes:
and why it's semi-canon?
Messaggio originale di WhiteAngel7:
In the Devil May Cry novel Gilver said that if he cut out Dante's heart, he wouldn't be able to recover, no matter how much demon blood runs through his veins.

...but who really knows, with them everything is possible~
Vergil has three hearts:
Power, Motivation and Special Edition.

Dante's heart is the hearts of all Trick-Sword-Trick-Sword-Guns-Trick-Guard-Trick-Guard-Trick-Sword-Trick-Sword... fans.

These guys are immortal.
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Messaggio originale di WhiteAngel7:
In the Devil May Cry novel Gilver said that if he cut out Dante's heart, he wouldn't be able to recover, no matter how much demon blood runs through his veins.

...but who really knows, with them everything is possible~

Dante's heart is the hearts of all Trick-Sword-Trick-Sword-Guns-Trick-Guard-Trick-Guard-Trick-Sword-Trick-Sword... fans.

These guys are immortal.
Dante didn't have, doesn't have and never will have a woman- it's already weakening him
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Messaggio originale di 武士:

Dante didn't have, doesn't have and never will have a woman- it's already weakening him
AH ♥♥♥♥ here we go again XD
Re: the twins’ survivability, up to you if you consider it canon (or applicable to hybrids), but Peak of Combat claims this about demons: https://imgur.com/a/GdoUttc

Re: your point about Dante’s looks in DMC5, yeah, with his regen powers, Dante should technically be better protected against aging than all those full-human middle-aged characters in DMC and other Capcom franchises who look way younger. Especially the women don’t age much lol. But Capcom’s been going on about Dante’s age since the DMC4 era, when they said that Dante’s “heyday as a big, Hollywood-like action star” has “passed.”

Essentially, Capcom wanted a new protag, but they had a hard time designing one, so they decided that Dante would be “the base for Nero’s design” and that “if you aged him ten years, Nero would basically resemble Dante physically.” Now that Nero is no longer a teen, visibly aging Dante helps create visual difference between the characters. Vergil doesn’t look much older than Nero, but he has a different style. Nero’s style is based on Dante, so if Dante looked less old, there could be too little visual contrast (and justifying ever-popular Dante’s “retirement” could be harder). Another thing they tried is to base DMC5 Nero's design more on reboot Dante, who won’t appear alongside Nero, so it's less jarring.
Messaggio originale di OST:
Re: the twins’ survivability, up to you if you consider it canon (or applicable to hybrids), but Peak of Combat claims this about demons: https://imgur.com/a/GdoUttc

Re: your point about Dante’s looks in DMC5, yeah, with his regen powers, Dante should technically be better protected against aging than all those full-human middle-aged characters in DMC and other Capcom franchises who look way younger. Especially the women don’t age much lol. But Capcom’s been going on about Dante’s age since the DMC4 era, when they said that Dante’s “heyday as a big, Hollywood-like action star” has “passed.”

Essentially, Capcom wanted a new protag, but they had a hard time designing one, so they decided that Dante would be “the base for Nero’s design” and that “if you aged him ten years, Nero would basically resemble Dante physically.” Now that Nero is no longer a teen, visibly aging Dante helps create visual difference between the characters. Vergil doesn’t look much older than Nero, but he has a different style. Nero’s style is based on Dante, so if Dante looked less old, there could be too little visual contrast (and justifying ever-popular Dante’s “retirement” could be harder). Another thing they tried is to base DMC5 Nero's design more on reboot Dante, who won’t appear alongside Nero, so it's less jarring.
yk in dmc5 I don't see any similarity between Dante and Nero not to mention the reboot (lets burn it anyway and forget about it) hell I even don't see much similarity between Dante and Vergil. Nero looks like Vergil idk why ppl say they arent similar. Trish doesn't age and she doesn't look good too :angrygodillo: except Lady
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yk in dmc5 I don't see any similarity between Dante and Nero not to mention the reboot (lets burn it anyway and forget about it) hell I even don't see much similarity between Dante and Vergil. Nero looks like Vergil idk why ppl say they arent similar. Trish doesn't age and she doesn't look good too :angrygodillo: except Lady
I think you won't see much similarities, because in DMC5 all of the characters have different face models, so all of them look different, I can say that they have a few features in common, but not many. Also everything depends on personal perception, because for me Nero is similar to Vergil and just like you, I wouldn't say he is similar to Dante.

And aging is a different topic; I think that Verge looks younger with no doubts, but I think he may be considered physically younger as well, becasue he spent almost 20 years in Hell and time flows slower there. Also he is more in touch with his demon side and Dante~ more with his human side, so this might be a reason if we want to look at it from a story point of view~ maybe the developers wanted to do it that way, but it's just a speculation. On the other hand, they are half-demons, so the passage of time shouldn't affect them so much.
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Messaggio originale di WhiteAngel7:
Just like MrXBX wrote, Dante and Verge aren't immortal and that's for sure, even if they can survive a lot.
In the Devil May Cry novel Gilver said that if he cut out Dante's heart, he wouldn't be able to recover, no matter how much demon blood runs through his veins.
I have to point out that the novel is semi-canon, but I guess this statement has a hint of truth. Hideki Kamiya also said that the heart is the most important, so this might be the case, even more that Vergil was "dead" when Mundus removed his heart.

Moreover, we've seen many times that these two were stabbed in the chest with a sword and nothing serious happened to them, but "cutting out" and "stabbing" are probably two different stuffs and maybe they can't regenerate after that, but who really knows, with them everything is possible~
omggg Angel! O-O many thanks for comprehensive answer too which simply answering my question on what can kill them for all, it makes sense tbh, cuz I saw holy water human weapon demon power magic do a ♥♥♥♥ to them and they heal asap. I didn't even associate it with the fact that Vergil was dead by it.
Btw luv your profillo :GhostLoveEyes:
and why it's semi-canon?
Oh well, it's semi-canon, because it started to contradict the events of the game.
And no problem~ :yetucute:
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yk in dmc5 I don't see any similarity between Dante and Nero not to mention the reboot (lets burn it anyway and forget about it) hell I even don't see much similarity between Dante and Vergil. Nero looks like Vergil idk why ppl say they arent similar. Trish doesn't age and she doesn't look good too :angrygodillo: except Lady
I think you won't see much similarities, because in DMC5 all of the characters have different face models, so all of them look different, I can say that they have a few features in common, but not many. Also everything depends on personal perception, because for me Nero is similar to Vergil and just like you, I wouldn't say he is similar to Dante.

And aging is a different topic; I think that Verge looks younger with no doubts, but I think he may be considered physically younger as well, becasue he spent almost 20 years in Hell and time flows slower there. Also he is more in touch with his demon side and Dante~ more with his human side, so this might be a reason if we want to look at it from a story point of view~ maybe the developers wanted to do it that way, but it's just a speculation. On the other hand, they are half-demons, so the passage of time shouldn't affect them so much.
they re rly similar more than I thought, Look at that comparison
https://aminoapps.com/c/devil-may-cry-amino-pt/page/blog/vergil-e-nero-sao-parecidos/nKj5_w3HLum3vJDv2zNM0QPK4XkMX4RZv
compared to Dante Vergil seriously looks decades younger omfg. Yeah Dante the ultimate grandma 4ever its painful XD
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yk in dmc5 I don't see any similarity between Dante and Nero not to mention the reboot (lets burn it anyway and forget about it) hell I even don't see much similarity between Dante and Vergil. Nero looks like Vergil idk why ppl say they arent similar. Trish doesn't age and she doesn't look good too :angrygodillo: except Lady
I guess I didn’t word it well, I meant their overall design. Their facial structures are different, but how many tall silver-haired stylish snarky long-coat wearing Devil Hunters in their prime can you have in your game. Capcom tried to differentiate them into up-and-coming and veteran not just narratively but visually too. In the (Japanese only?) artbook, they talked about how they wanted Dante to come off as more “adult” then Nero. I guess making him look past 50 was one way to do it lol. (Not saying I like how old Dante looks, just talking about why they claim to have done it.)

They also wanted to create different looks for Dante and Vergil. In the same artbook, they claim Vergil’s look is the one they’re proudest of, because of how “dignified” and “noble” he looks. With Dante, they were apparently going for “laid-back” but “sharp” at the same time. And “adult.”

Yeah, Lady’s full-human, but aged much better than Dante. I wonder if they feared giving off weird vibes if Trish/Eva looked too hot (but then why the nudity).

I strayed far off topic so: I think the twins can be killed only if you first exhaust/overwhelm their regen powers. They are the only ones who can do this to each other, but others could jump in like Arkham and Nero (and in a way Mundus) did and perhaps finish them off.
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yk in dmc5 I don't see any similarity between Dante and Nero not to mention the reboot (lets burn it anyway and forget about it) hell I even don't see much similarity between Dante and Vergil. Nero looks like Vergil idk why ppl say they arent similar. Trish doesn't age and she doesn't look good too :angrygodillo: except Lady
I guess I didn’t word it well, I meant their overall design. Their facial structures are different, but how many tall silver-haired stylish snarky long-coat wearing Devil Hunters in their prime can you have in your game. Capcom tried to differentiate them into up-and-coming and veteran not just narratively but visually too. In the (Japanese only?) artbook, they talked about how they wanted Dante to come off as more “adult” then Nero. I guess making him look past 50 was one way to do it lol. (Not saying I like how old Dante looks, just talking about why they claim to have done it.)

They also wanted to create different looks for Dante and Vergil. In the same artbook, they claim Vergil’s look is the one they’re proudest of, because of how “dignified” and “noble” he looks. With Dante, they were apparently going for “laid-back” but “sharp” at the same time. And “adult.”

Yeah, Lady’s full-human, but aged much better than Dante. I wonder if they feared giving off weird vibes if Trish/Eva looked too hot.

I strayed far off topic so: I think the twins can be killed only if you first exhaust/overwhelm their regen powers. They are the only ones who can do this to each other, but others could jump in like Arkham and Nero (and in a way Mundus) did and perhaps finish them off.
Srlsy I read a lot of that if you exhaust them, but their stamina has nothing to do with it too, if they die after that it will take a rly rly long time, cuz they heal no matter what. More I wondered what can kill them right away. I believed in h. kamiya words, heart is important, i don't know if you noticed how they load up lmao, just thought of that, all energy pd wtv goes to their chest straight to the heart, now it made sense xd and what mundus did to vergil which i forgor what did he do exactly that killed him, cuz yeah vergil was exhausted after the fight, but he was still alive, so yah how to finish him then? started to turn him into nelo angelo, he took his persona and heart and just rip. there would be no other way to kill him. I read all this and I didn't connect the facts.....
Feared of being too hot XD ngl Trish looked a lot better in dmc4 and everybody were happy with that, but now.... idk seems that eva looked better than trish in the story, Lady, yeah she looks rly good even aged, she looks better than in 4 where she was younger
But still crying what they did to Dante. Like @White said abt them
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he is more in touch with his demon side and Dante~ more with his human side
logically it can do a thing with age, if sparda didnt aged and was a full demon, vergil being more close to his demon could make him age slower and time in hell. Or maybe again its cuz of their models :angrygodillo:
@OST btw when Nero exhausted them? Cuz if you mean at the end of dmc5, boy, now i will ran off the topic. Nero could be easly killed by vergil, he is still most powerful with dante, but his emotions wouldnt let him, that was funny noticeable ngl XD I remember, during the fight he didn't say 'die' to Nero, when fighting with dante they rly wanted to kil each other. but with nero this fight was to see how much power that kido has and what he is capable of. Vergil softened in 5 cuz of accepting his human half, but he would give 100% of the power if would be in danger. nero is 1/4 of the devil Dante and Virgil surpass him in practically every aspect + their experience
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