What exactly is the devil trigger form?

[GetToTheTop]

Do you need a devil arm to do it? Do all demons have one?

[BTTrinity]

Question one: no

Question two: yes and no. I advise beating the game before asking these questions, sounds like you havent.

Theres no way to answer these without spoilers, so unless you dont care about them prolly take the thread down or ignore it.

[GetToTheTop]

Originally posted by BTTrinity:

Question one: no

Question two: yes and no. I advise beating the game before asking these questions, sounds like you havent.

Theres no way to answer these without spoilers, so unless you dont care about them prolly take the thread down or ignore it.

I beat it already i was just confused that nero doesn't use a devil arm to do it but dante has never done it without a devil arm. Also when dante got his devil trigger from being stabbed by rebellion in the third game i had no idea what was happening.

[BTTrinity]

Originally posted by Giant Tryhard:

Originally posted by BTTrinity:

Question one: no

Question two: yes and no. I advise beating the game before asking these questions, sounds like you havent.

Theres no way to answer these without spoilers, so unless you dont care about them prolly take the thread down or ignore it.

I beat it already i was just confused that nero doesn't use a devil arm to do it but dante has never done it without a devil arm. Also when dante got his devil trigger from being stabbed by rebellion in the third game i had no idea what was happening.

Nero in DMC4 obtained Yamato, this was before he knew Vergil was his father and the katana resonated with his bloodline and nero got that partial DT in the last game.

He loses his arm (Yamato) and loses his DT.

Then he finds out Vergil is his father and Dante is his uncle, at the point where he has been working with Dante for a few years since DMC4 then finding out Dante (And Vergil) is part of Nero's family... I'm sure Nero's gained some love for at least Dante and doesnt wanna let the only two people that he has left in his bloodline kill eachother... And apparently feels strong enough about it to transform and grow an arm back lmao, theres really no explanation on how he got a true DT outside of his emotions and bloodline.

DMC3 transformation concept is the same as it is with Spardas sword and the Sin DT. Rebellion brought out his regular DT, and combining his weapon with spardas then stabbing himself with it allowed him to enhance that DT.

"Rebellion once belonged to Dante's father, Sparda, who split his immense power into it as well as Force Edge and Yamato, and gave it to Dante as a keepsake." - wiki

"Dante uses the Rebellion as his primary weapon while exploring the Temen-ni-gru, but after his first battle with Vergil, his brother uses the Rebellion to impale Dante, inadvertently awakening the sword and Dante's Devil Trigger through contact with Dante's blood. Dante continues to use the sword until he recovers his father's personal blade, the Force Edge. " - wiki

"Rebellion is a remarkably powerful magical sword. It is sharp enough to pierce the surface of the Savior's body while it is powered by the Sparda. It is also one of the most durable objects in the series, capable of withstanding hits from the space-cutting blade Yamato, as well as a direct punch from the Savior."

"Rebellion is awakened by Dante's blood, however, Dante's own latent power must be active for the blood to have an effect. In the manga, Dante's latent demonic powers became temporarily active and his blood transformed Rebellion, but when Dante's powers became dormant again, Rebellion became dormant as well."

"In Devil May Cry 5, Dante deduced that Rebellion had an ability to complement that of Yamato. While Yamato could separate a person's mortal and demonic sides, the Rebellion can instead unify them. Dante exploited this ability by willingly impaling himself on the sword, fusing the Rebellion and Sparda into the Devil Sword Dante and simultaneously unlocking his Sin Devil Trigger. "

[Shiki Yui]

Originally posted by TheKynMan:

Nice explanation.. but do all demons have one?

I'm sure all demons have the potential to DT if DMD is any indicator lol

[AnemoneMeer]

While DMD enemies can DT, this isn't canonically possible.

Devil Trigger is the state of a non-full demon going Demon. As we've seen, the dominant appearance/state of a hybrid is Human. All Half-breed characters are Humanoid. Devil Triggering is switching this around, and SDT is going full demon physically.

SDT's half-breeds are worlds above standard demons, as they have a human mind/soul piloting the full might of a demon, PLUS human blood is a natural power source for demons, which means that a SDT'd hybrid has pure high-octane demon fuel pumping through its body.

Another thing to remember is humans in the DMC universe are *not* weak. Going back as far as DMC1, it's canonical that humanity held its ground against the demons BEFORE Sparda came into the picture. Judging by the Knights Fighting Demons stuff in DMC1, Sparda is a RECENT DEVELOPMENT, and humanity held their own up until then under their own power. Lady is a good example of this. Pure human, able to destroy entire hordes of demons singlehandedly. Beyond that, pretty much every demon in the series is something of a brute. Even the smart ones don't particularly show off impressive displays of skill or creativity. Credo's swordsmanship in his bossfight is so far beyond Proto Angelo that it's straight out comical to compare the two, and Proto Angelo is based on VERGIL. Then we have Vergil, Nero, and Dante, who pull off displays of skill and finesse that must be downright horrifying to demons. Yes, even Nero.

Take all of that skill and finesse from humanity, and give it a demon body, and you've got the basis of what Devil Triggering is, and why it's so scary. Take all that, and put it into a pure-blood Archdemon body, and you've got Sin Devil Trigger. To pretty much the entire underworld, that's not a fair fight. That's not even a fight. It's just horrifying slaughter.

[Saum]

Like they said, it's something that part-demon, part-human individuals can do -- not all demons -- and it's activated as a latent ability through a lot of physical pain and emotional turmoil. (Blood and willpower, basically.) Sparda's descendants have a lot of supernatural abilities from the get-go, but it's only a preview.

I think Nero lost his DT because he didn't fully activate it in DMC4. There was something off about it, just like his injured arm mutating into a demon one pre-game. His body's demon and human genes aren't balanced, so maybe the demon side was overcompensating while gradually awakening.

It also explains why Urizen has no DT form. He literally cut away everything human (and traumatic and sentimental) and went full demon... which, with a mainline of human blood, was enough to defeat DT Dante.

Demons underestimating humans and humans thinking they're powerless compared to demons are where most of the problems in DMC start.

[Slayer Seraph]

Nero's DT= D ead weigh T
Ask Nero.

[NomeGrande]

I dare say that what made Nero fully awaken his DT was his mix of human and demon blood, there must be a specific ratio that enhances the powering of demon blood through human blood, that should also explain how Nero is powerful enough to knock Dante away and defeat Vergil, albeit both weakened from their fight, since they should overpower him rather easily with their SDT, that also could explain his thirst for power becoming more apparent when he DT, because he is burning through his human blood and feeding the demon blood that he got from his dad, which obviously have that same thirst

[Sansei Muramasa]

Originally posted by CxLoucoxD:

I dare say that what made Nero fully awaken his DT was his mix of human and demon blood, there must be a specific ratio that enhances the powering of demon blood through human blood, that should also explain how Nero is powerful enough to knock Dante away and defeat Vergil, albeit both weakened from their fight, since they should overpower him rather easily with their SDT, that also could explain his thirst for power becoming more apparent when he DT, because he is burning through his human blood and feeding the demon blood that he got from his dad, which obviously have that same thirst

I'd like to think it as an act of desperation.

[AnalogFlame]

Technically all demons have them. In the Dante Must Die difficulty enemies will devil trigger when low on health but their form doesn't really change