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Dante was Edgy in every game going up until DMC4 when he mellowed out alot(explained in the anime how he mellowed out after fighting his depression). Seriously how do fans thing Dante was never edgy? He just didn't curse as much and didn't have the human interaction to compare to how cancerous early game Donte is. Play 30minutes of DMC3 and tell me Dante wasn't edgy, corny and a total dirtbag to any and everyone who approached him.
DMCV is a spiritual sequal and ending to DmC:Devil May Cry. It followed Vergil taking Mundus's place(which is where DmC ends off). Though mostly from speculation, Vergil's actions and the results of those early on are in close relation to his trip to hell in DmC. Cutting his human off from his demon side in order to gain enough power to kill Dante and be the most powerful being in existence out of fear of losing anything more and hatred from all that he had lost. Seeking to gain back the power he had before he lost it only to use it for pointless revenge that he never consider to be wrong to chase. Although alot of characters in the original series doesn't exist in DmC, it story can be translated into the DmC series on the exception of Nero who would not have existed in DmC. Though considering Nero and Kat's stance are exactly the same ("your family why are you fighting please stop" despite her having virtually no power, the opposite of Nero) Itsuno's original goal was to make a DmC2 but CAPCOM demanded a DMCV.
I find it very impressive how Itsuno managed to make a sequel to both series in one game through his motivation to make a sequel for DmC. It came out pretty nice too, especially since the character development was done very well in the transition into a Rated M game.
The entire reason they had NT do DmC was to motivate Itsuno into making more games while also adopting a version of the story for westerners. We all know how that went. Never try to do a reboot because the sensative side of the fanbase will always go nuts rather it is justified or not. DmC was a ok game that was mostly faulty due to people wanting DmC Donte to be both exactly the same as Dante and not at all like him. It was an impossible task. We can't have a DmC2. People will cry the series is dead again. Even if it was made by Itsuno.
I still remember "Devil May Cry fans are a crying shame" articles. Maybe I am blindly hating the overall product (which as a standalone is okay at best), but it caused nothing but trouble. Sacrificed so much for so little.
EDIT: You don't have to read all this because I was tired and misread your response xD you can if you want to hear me complain about people and their bad arguments. I'm sorry.
I agree. it caused alot of trouble. However it was only because the first version of Donte was indeed complete garbage. All trouble afterwards was fans over reacting. In my opinion after the first change CAPCOM shouldn't have been so heavy handed with NT, forcing them to answer to fans while making them make changes based off what fans and CAPCOM wanted for a western DMC game. It resulted in a 5/10 when the second Donte was honestly looking like a amazing reboot of a character.
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The reason why I say that is because when debated the arguments are always childish or extremely vague. People say things like:
-Dante never curses, even though Original Dante does. Just not much until DMCV.
-He's a womanizer, Dante doesn't casually sleep with women. Though we have no proof I doubt him sleeping with girls he seems to mess with all the time matters. Reboots are meant to have some differences.
-The new DmC is only here to insult old fans
-Taheem(i forget how to spell his name) attacked and insulted fans. When asked for evidence they complain about the "Dante isn't modern day cool" which let's be honest, personality wise if he was a irl person he'd be a meme on the internet. He's cool as a fictional character but I doubt any of you would see someone like Dante irl and find them to be the coolest.
-The million years joke(which comes back full circle endgame as bad foreshadowing)
-The baby scene where Vergil chooses to attempt killing the heir to get Mundus away from the Hell's Gate. This is often spoken as a event that the original Vergil would never have done and said in the most vague way with as little context as possible to incriminate the part.
1:Vergil and Dante do not have powers in the real world. No teleporting, no DT, no summon swords. Yamato is able to exist in the real world while Rebellion cannot. However Donte has Ebony&Ivory who can.
2: The context for Vergil's actions is in the scenes before this cutscene where Vergil clearly wants to do anything to get Mundus in a vulnerable state, including sending Donte to his potential doom to lure him out and letting Kat die like the hundreds of people who supported him.
People argue Vergil is not that evil and has "honor" while turning a blind eye to how many lives he sacrificed in DMC3 and how quickly he is to cut down anyone in his way. Spoiler alert: Vergil is a villain. He'd be a anti-hero if he didn't kill so many innocents with his plans. He has no honor. He used everyone and thing to gain power, even his own son, brother and friends.
-Vergil childishly bringing up his junk size in mission 17.
-Donte is too mean. Original was never that mean. Have you played DMC3? DMC3 Dante is a toxic character until like mission 17. Only difference between Donte and DMCDante is that Donte curses way more and is shown sleeping with women. They are both extremely aggressive and look down on everything in their path. They both hated demons and had no respect for humans at first. They both didn't care about family until a young lady with family issues showed the the way.
DmC:Devil May Cry is a OK reboot. A 5/10. a safe story with safe combat system, great graphics and well placed music however it is missing afew DMC exclusive things like a definitive character battle theme and boss fights that can be fought in a large number of ways. Donte is OK, not too bad, not very good though. Vergil is Vergil, power hungry, manipulative, driven mad with the obsession with gaining power so he can never lose again and Kat is Lady if Lady was a wiccan and killed her dad early and never got into demon hunting.
"I don't know what spiritual successor is." I know I should stop trolling but I get tired of explaining everything.
I never said it was a prequel or sequel. I said it was a "spiritual". As in it can be viewed as one in theory. not like it matters. Eventually they will greenlight him to make a DmC2. He really wants to since he really liked DmC.
Just sounds like a bunch of fan-fiction as if DmC was somehow related to the original franchise.
Oh no. You don't understand what I'm saying. Whatever shall I do? I'll agree to disagree. The best option select.
i belive his newer other game is decent where his "art" shines