Am I playing Nero wrong?

[SirTurdle]

Whenever I play Nero I get extremely frustrated because unless I have his air dodge arm, it feels like there isn't any fluid way to dodge enemy attacks. So far I've really enjoyed playing V since the start, the ability to have the summons in different places make controlling the battlefield so much fun, using the bird to crowd control and the shadow for direct damage while using them to keep the fight away from V makes his combat my favorite. And with Dante, his royal guard block at least allows for counter-play, and I really enjoy how good timing is rewarded for him. But the only meaningful way I've noticed timing being good for Nero is his Exceed meter which is just for more damage, and the self-destruct arms which just seem counter-intuitive. Is there actually a good way to block/dodge attacks without using specific dodge arms? His sidestep seems like it doesn't work half the time for me.

[StreamWhenGuy]

Nero is about crowd control and maximizing damage through fast precise inputs. Devil Breakers are OP. Just learn to use them. He's not really supposed to dodge or block anything, but recklessly kill enemies as fast as possible. His moveset is also rich enough to fly around arenas and juggle enemies in the air until they die. Gerbera has a mobility move, too, as well as Punchline. Ragtime is basically ZA WARUDO. Table Hopper is rather hard to utilize consistently and there's really no reason to. Remap a Blue Rose key to be able to charge it while doing combos, same with charging Breakers if you're not comfortable with charging them. Will help to deal damage and control enemies.

[RYZEN 5 5600X ! A HI HI !]

this game are easy to get use to but not easy to mastered it , it will take time , my guess is you're just bad as playing nero , nero have dodge merchanic but it required good reaction time just like vergil ! make it short , dante and v are for easy and decent players who want easy fights and stylish ! vergil and nero since dmc 3-4 up to now are for skilled plauyer who want to sharp and mastered their skill ! when you some how get use to it you will realize how fast vergil are and how effective nero is ! dante= stylish slash more , vergil = simple fighting style but powerful, v= summon carry , nero = mixup from dante and vergil !

[k-ricks]

well exceed and blue rose stun anything timing your exceed and always keep you blue rose loaded especially when Nero has his charge shot from 4 back that ♥♥♥♥ destroy everything

[Lethal Placebo]

You mentioned you're having trouble dodging, so I'll give you a tip on that first: with any character, the upwards arc of your standard jump has i-frames. The longer you hold jump, the higher you go, the more i-frames you have. This does not apply to Air Hike.

Sidestep/roll not working is probably down to you needing to get the directions correct, it can be a bit confusing because you have to move you character left or right and press jump, not necessarily move the stick left or right. if you have the "Table Hopper" skill, then doing this action just as an enemy attack is about to hit you will result in a fast dodge that you can followup with a dodge in any direction with the same input.

As for moving in the air, Calibur and Payline are really good options for moving you in the air quickly, but if you want to get extra movement and be able to move in any direction use Nero's air taunt. It offers similar height to a half jump and you can even Exceed during it. I think you'll find it pretty useful.

[droaan]

Originally posted by PALIT GTX 1070 TI ! A HI HI !:

this game are easy to get use to but not easy to mastered it , it will take time , my guess is you're just bad as playing nero , nero have dodge merchanic but it required good reaction time just like vergil ! make it short , dante and v are for easy and decent players who want easy fights and stylish ! vergil and nero since dmc 3-4 up to now are for skilled plauyer who want to sharp and mastered their skill ! when you some how get use to it you will realize how fast vergil are and how effective nero is ! dante= stylish slash more , vergil = simple fighting style but powerful, v= summon carry , nero = mixup from dante and vergil !

My scenario of optimal suggestion is to play DMC4 twice.

Once. To train. Twice to master.

Then begin DMC 5.

[Lethal Placebo]

Originally posted by droaan:

My scenario of optimal suggestion is to play DMC4 twice.

Once. To train. Twice to master.

Then begin DMC 5.

You're not gonna master any DMC game playing it twice, but yeah 4 eases players into Nero a bit more.

[droaan]

Originally posted by Lethal Placebo:

Originally posted by droaan:

My scenario of optimal suggestion is to play DMC4 twice.

Once. To train. Twice to master.

Then begin DMC 5.

You're not gonna master any DMC game playing it twice, but yeah 4 eases players into Nero a bit more.

I am pretty sure it's been tested and proven, two times with focus and you can attain mastery of the combat.

[RYZEN 5 5600X ! A HI HI !]

Originally posted by droaan:

Originally posted by Lethal Placebo:

You're not gonna master any DMC game playing it twice, but yeah 4 eases players into Nero a bit more.

I am pretty sure it's been tested and proven, two times with focus and you can attain mastery of the combat.

Yes! If he have dmc4 then I suggested him to make friend with nero first! Once he can get used to him then I’m sure he will appreciate what camcom did to improve nero combat systems in dmc5! Vergil in dmc3 required skill and experience too! If not then you will feel like his combat are not open and funny like dante!

[droaan]

Originally posted by PALIT GTX 1070 TI ! A HI HI !:

Originally posted by droaan:

I am pretty sure it's been tested and proven, two times with focus and you can attain mastery of the combat.

Yes! If he have dmc4 then I suggested him to make friend with nero first! Once he can get used to him then I’m sure he will appreciate what camcom did to improve nero combat systems in dmc5! Vergil in dmc3 required skill and experience too! If not then you will feel like his combat are not open and funny like dante!

Very hard games. very.

[SuccR SE]

press a to the side, time it right, and you go puff puff puff, use shuffle, stay in the air, use jump cancel, just jump, parry with your sword, use devil trigger, and dont say good things about v e.e

[SirTurdle]

Originally posted by Midnight:

press a to the side, time it right, and you go puff puff puff, use shuffle, stay in the air, use jump cancel, just jump, parry with your sword, use devil trigger, and dont say good things about v e.e

After beating the game and unlocking *the thing* Nero feels a lot more complete to me now and I've enjoyed playing him a lot more. Also the advice someone gave earlier of "get used to the devil breakers" helped a lot.