Is Bloody Palace in 5 easier than the rest?

[Dooter]

I haven't played the others in a long time, except 4 maybe months ago but I don't think I've ever actually beat BP in 3 nor DMC 4. I've probably beat the BP here with Nero maybe 3-4 times in the past week or so.

[Amygdala]

It's FAR easier achievement wise. No 9,000 floors like DMC2 and 3. No having to beat it without getting damaged. No having to beat it with ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥... Lady. The only problem is V

Not accounting achievements, basically the same as 4 and DmC, theres only a couple of really bad floors and the biggest threat is just getting nerves at the Dante/Vergil at the end. Except for that its basically a matter of not getting bored halfway through (thankfully you can save now)

[Medusahead]

ye

[Dooter]

Originally posted by Amygdala:

It's FAR easier achievement wise. No 9,000 floors like DMC2 and 3. No having to beat it without getting damaged. No having to beat it with ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥... Lady. The only problem is V

Not accounting achievements, basically the same as 4 and DmC, theres only a couple of really bad floors and the biggest threat is just getting nerves at the Dante/Vergil at the end. Except for that its basically a matter of not getting bored halfway through (thankfully you can save now)

yea my only real difficulty with them is the annoying as floors with furies. They're just not fun to play against. Especially when Idk, you have to fight 3 in one.

[Black Lamb, Rock Enjoyer]

Originally posted by Dooter:

Originally posted by Amygdala:

It's FAR easier achievement wise. No 9,000 floors like DMC2 and 3. No having to beat it without getting damaged. No having to beat it with ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥... Lady. The only problem is V

Not accounting achievements, basically the same as 4 and DmC, theres only a couple of really bad floors and the biggest threat is just getting nerves at the Dante/Vergil at the end. Except for that its basically a matter of not getting bored halfway through (thankfully you can save now)

yea my only real difficulty with them is the annoying as floors with furies. They're just not fun to play against. Especially when Idk, you have to fight 3 in one.

DTed mobs are harder than any Fury thats DTed or not. Just parry.

[Dooter]

Originally posted by Black Lamb:

Originally posted by Dooter:

yea my only real difficulty with them is the annoying as floors with furies. They're just not fun to play against. Especially when Idk, you have to fight 3 in one.

DTed mobs are harder than any Fury thats DTed or not. Just parry.

I just find them tedious

[tv]

You don't get punished for using super costumes other than score, you'll still get acheivements and unlocks.

I will say the two floors in the 90s where all the basic enemy types spawn from a pool after each kill, then the advanced enemies makes me sweat as much as all of the Urizen fights. This is one of the most difficult, since you can wind up fighting one of the behemoth/berserker things, Empusa queen and Lusachia at the same time on DMD difficulty.

I absolutely love the floor where like 7-9 Sin Scissors spawn, forcing you to either exploit their parry insta-kill aa they spawn or go full Donguri against a cloud of ghosts. It really feels like extra love for fans of the first game.

I think it's floor 83 where you go up against 3 Riots and Two Chaos. Get sweaty here always.

[Peelsepuuppi]

Have people forgotten how to count? 9000 floors isn't that much when you go through them in increments of 100. You also have access to the infinite DT Code on the Steam HD version of DMC2. Achievement wise it doesn't take long to spam Trish's aerial raid attack to kill everything ind DMC2 BP.

Both DMC2 and DMC3 BPs are easy because of infinite super DT which doesn't affect your completion rating or achievements. In DMC4SE you have to beat it with Trish and Lady. neither of whom have a super costumes. Both Lady and Trish have very abusable strategies to beat the whole thing, but with Trish you have to be at least somewhat decent at the game.

If we go by achievements then DMC4 is the hardest by far because you can't cheese it with infinite DT. The rest are hard to put in order because they are all easy due to infinite DT.

Without infinite DT I'd say the legitimately hardest one is DMC3. In DMC2 you can just jump around and spam guns, so it's the most tedious and might require more mental fortitude to do than DMC3 BP. IMO it's absolute madness to go to 9000 on DMC2 without the infinite DT, especially since every enemy is on DMD difficulty after 1000th floor, So have fun going insane and getting carpal tunnel syndrome for all that gun spam. So while DMC2 doesn't take skill to beat, it is more unreasonable to beat, without the code.

So the easiest without DT is harder to say. If you have to beat it with all characters then DMC5 is easier, but for a single completion of the BP DMC4 for is easiest due to how poorly balanced (absolutely overpowered) and low execution Lady is. It doesn't take any skill to beat it with Lady.

[Amygdala]

Originally posted by ToveriJuri:

Have people forgotten how to count? 9000 floors isn't that much when you go through them in increments of 100. You also have access to the infinite DT Code on the Steam HD version of DMC2. Achievement wise it doesn't take long to spam

That must be why the runs of DMC2 Bloody Palace take 5 hours while DMC5 takes like, 2. The floors of wolves are way longer than any floor in 5.

Also cheating

[Peelsepuuppi]

Originally posted by Amygdala:

Originally posted by ToveriJuri:

Have people forgotten how to count? 9000 floors isn't that much when you go through them in increments of 100. You also have access to the infinite DT Code on the Steam HD version of DMC2. Achievement wise it doesn't take long to spam

That must be why the runs of DMC2 Bloody Palace take 5 hours while DMC5 takes like, 2. The floors of wolves are way longer than any floor in 5.

Also cheating

The reason why it takes that long is because the combat system In DMC2 is slow as hell and the best strategy is to mash guns. Also you start meeting DMD level enemies after 10 floors (after floor 1000). While in the other games BP goes to DMD mode much later.

It's not the number of levels that's the problem. 101 levels is essentially just a streamlined version of taking a +100 floors portal in DMC2 and DMC3.

And yeah cheating. I'd rather cheat than get carpal tunnel or waste 5 hours in the BP when I can just use infinite DT code (Unlockable in European version of DMC2 after you beat DMD). I Just got 100% achievements in DMC2 recently and I made a turbo button for guns through steam controller configuration because my hand was in pain from all the Ebony+Ivory/Throwing Knives mashing. Didn't feel bad about doing it either considering how low skill game DMC2 is anyway.

[Dooter]

I'm more questioning the enemy variety compared to DMC 3/4. I'm by zero means one of the best DMC players, I played 3, 4 I'd say a lot but I don't think I've beaten 3's on the account that I played that like a decade ago on my PS2 but asides from the fact that the floors just increase in game/mode difficulty human > DH > SOS > DMD I don't think the enemy variety ever really differs once you reach floor 50+.

Maybe it's just me but is there too many filler/recovery floors here? Oh you cheesed 5 death scissors. Ah don't worry bro, he's a floor with 3 scythe peeps and 2 healing flies.

[Venom]

The enemy compositions in most floors are just not a threat at all. Even after you reach the DMD difficulty in the palace, it is still not that hard. The Blitz, Faust, Alto Angelo, and some floors in 4 were just really hard for me. Also, if you are playing as Dante, you can just kill all the bosses with the Faust Hat with like 1-2 fully charged meteors.

[Dooter]

Originally posted by Venom:

The enemy compositions in most floors are just not a threat at all. Even after you reach the DMD difficulty in the palace, it is still not that hard. The Blitz, Faust, Alto Angelo, and some floors in 4 were just really hard for me. Also, if you are playing as Dante, you can just kill all the bosses with the Faust Hat with like 1-2 fully charged meteors.

4 was already tough for me at like floor 30+. But the floor composition here just sucks in difficulty. Like the only difference between a floor on level 60 and level 90 is the difficulty the mobs are set to at that point. Idk I was hoping for a noticeable leap in difficulty instead of some stagnant progression where 1-40 is practically filler, then 40-100 is practically the same in terms of enemy variety.