Nidhogg as vergil is terrible

[Rex]

I think that the fight itself is really garbare compared to any other boss in the game, but doing it as vergil feels even worse, the fight was not design for you to be right next to the boss the entire time, ♥♥♥♥ is just way harder than any other boss imo, but unlike other bosses, its a frustating kind of hard, not a challenging and interesting one.

[Soap Dragon]

i also thought this until i found a cheese strat to beat him near flawlessly. just attack stuff until you build up SDT then avoid stuff until you can get concentration 2 then go into SDT and use judgement cut end. It kills all his tentacles and downs him. you can then build up more SDT in the time he doesnt have his tentacles and also build up concentration by dodging with trick. repeat the SDT judgement cut end when his tentacles come back and he goes down again. rince and repeat.
also important to turn off SDT when he goes down since theres no way you can build up a full bar in that time. if you have trigger heart i think it should use only a quarter of SDT every judgement cut but ive never tried it without trigger heart.

[Ifrit03]

Yes, boss fight terrible with Vergil

[Shirakani]

ITT: List of people who can't Just Frame Judgement Cut to save their lives.

[Shiki Yui]

Originally posted by Shirakani:

ITT: List of people who can't Just Frame Judgement Cut to save their lives.

Yep SDT Judgement Cut spams all the way through this crap boss

[Peelsepuuppi]

Originally posted by RexSniper:

frustating kind of hard, not a challenging and interesting one.

Ah "frustrating" not hard, We meet again. The most common excuse by people who need to git gud, but don't want to admit it.

[Teruko]

I find the boss much easier as Vergil. I always thought it was kind of a lame boss in the first place, though. I only really have fun against King Cerberus and the final boss in this game.

[Jetstream Sam]

I don't really have any issues with it, but I know its going to be slightly frustrating in H&H since the mission feels long (even though there are only 5 mandatory fights + boss).

[MS_Accel]

Originally posted by ToveriJuri:

Originally posted by RexSniper:

frustating kind of hard, not a challenging and interesting one.

Ah "frustrating" not hard, We meet again. The most common excuse by people who need to git gud, but don't want to admit it.

In DMC3 and 5's Dante vs Vergil fights, I'd die dozens and dozens of times and take forever to progress, but never once did they ever stop being fun. I'd eventually die right when I was a pixel of damage away from winning, and I'd still be completely thrilled and ready to tackle again to do it just a little better this time.

The nidhogg fight does not trigger the same adrenaline thrill. It's just annoying. When a game is annoying, I stop playing it, or I skip past the annoying part if I'm allowed. There is in fact such a thing as a badly designed challenge.

[Punished_Stallion]

frustrating means difficult by poor design. anyone with a brain knows that. something being difficult doesnt automatically make it good

[Rex]

Originally posted by Accel:

Originally posted by ToveriJuri:

Ah "frustrating" not hard, We meet again. The most common excuse by people who need to git gud, but don't want to admit it.

In DMC3 and 5's Dante vs Vergil fights, I'd die dozens and dozens of times and take forever to progress, but never once did they ever stop being fun. I'd eventually die right when I was a pixel of damage away from winning, and I'd still be completely thrilled and ready to tackle again to do it just a little better this time.

The nidhogg fight does not trigger the same adrenaline thrill. It's just annoying. When a game is annoying, I stop playing it, or I skip past the annoying part if I'm allowed. There is in fact such a thing as a badly designed challenge.

yeah thats exactly what i feel

[Coin]

Spam judgment cut?

[Peelsepuuppi]

Originally posted by Accel:

Originally posted by ToveriJuri:

Ah "frustrating" not hard, We meet again. The most common excuse by people who need to git gud, but don't want to admit it.

In DMC3 and 5's Dante vs Vergil fights, I'd die dozens and dozens of times and take forever to progress, but never once did they ever stop being fun. I'd eventually die right when I was a pixel of damage away from winning, and I'd still be completely thrilled and ready to tackle again to do it just a little better this time.

The nidhogg fight does not trigger the same adrenaline thrill. It's just annoying. When a game is annoying, I stop playing it, or I skip past the annoying part if I'm allowed. There is in fact such a thing as a badly designed challenge.

S ranked it on DMD on first try. Wasn't particularly frustrating.

[Peelsepuuppi]

Originally posted by Punished_Stallion:

frustrating means difficult by poor design. anyone with a brain knows that. something being difficult doesnt automatically make it good

Of course it doesn't make it good. On the other hand just because something is frustrating to you doesn't mean your own ability isn't contributing to the frustration.

Just say the boss is hard without excuses. Admitting that doesn't make you less of a gamer or a person or anything. Trying to come up with excuses does.

[tv]

It's his teleport that's weird with Nidhogg, and gilgamesh too. I frequently wind up to the left or right, just above one of the mouths, and can't avoid the sweep attacks. Just wind up spamming.

[M4N]

No boss can be worse than King Cerberus.