Is Dante in Shin Megami Tensei Nocturne canon?

[Knight_of_Hellmire]

Well pretty much the question in the title.

[Alriky]

Well...not exactly.

The thing is that Dante in Nocturne is a guest character, although his design is from DMC2 (design that curiously appeared first in Nocturne), he does not have the same personality in both games.

[MonkeyBone]

He's not even canon in Nocturne anymore as they replaced him with Raidou. The History of DMC didn't feature his time in SMT either so it's safe to say it was just a fun extra and that's all.

[IlluminaZero]

In my heart he is. Especially as I have never purchased the one where they RETCONNED him with Raidou.

[Zombie]

I mean that's like asking if he was in the Nintendo 3DS crossover game or MVC3 in official canon.

[Sith_1ord]

It doesn't contradict DMC's story in any way, so you can think what you want. We never got to see what was Dante doing after he got stuck in hell after killing Argosax, anyway.

Originally posted by ALRIKYAM:

design that curiously appeared first in Nocturne

That's false.

[Peelsepuuppi]

Originally posted by illuminazero:

In my heart he is. Especially as I have never purchased the one where they RETCONNED him with Raidou.

Which version has Raidou instead of Dante?

[IlluminaZero]

Originally posted by ToveriJuri:

Originally posted by illuminazero:

In my heart he is. Especially as I have never purchased the one where they RETCONNED him with Raidou.

Which version has Raidou instead of Dante?

The PS2 version sitting in my room right now. IIRC it was the earliest version of Nocturne localized in the US. May be wrong but if so google should make that obvious.

[Sith_1ord]

Originally posted by ;1850323802588461128:

Originally posted by ToveriJuri:

Which version has Raidou instead of Dante?

The PS2 version sitting in my room right now. IIRC it was the earliest version of Nocturne localized in the US. May be wrong but if so google should make that obvious.

Dante was replaced with Raidou in the Maniax Chronicle version, that came out in 2008.

[Peelsepuuppi]

Originally posted by illuminazero:

Originally posted by ToveriJuri:

Which version has Raidou instead of Dante?

The PS2 version sitting in my room right now. IIRC it was the earliest version of Nocturne localized in the US. May be wrong but if so google should make that obvious.

This post is more confusing than helpful, sorry. PS2 version of the PS2 exclusive game? The first version that came out replaced Dante with Raidou, but Dante was actually retconned later?

[IlluminaZero]

Not really certain why you guys are asking me rather than just googling it. A quick google search shows that we basically have three versions of Nocturne:

Original Nocturne (Japan only) -> Nocturne Maniax Edition (With Dante, original US release and ofc released in Japan as well) -> Nocturne Maniax re-release (With Raidou, Japan only)

Also a friendly reminder that the Dante and Vergil's DMC3 devil forms were designed by the art lead for Shim Megami Tensei - It was a two-way collaboration. Raidou was likely dropped in less for "canon" reasons but simply for licensing reasons.

[Gray Phantom]

It absolutely can be if you want it to. Just pretend it’s a Devil May Cry 2 interquel.

[кλєяυ]

In regards of SMT, yes. The protagonist canonically has the skill "Pierce" which he can only obtain in the True Demon Ending of the game, and for him to obtain the skill he has to recruit Dante first

[Tr0w]

Originally posted by IlluminaZero:

In my heart he is. Especially as I have never purchased the one where they RETCONNED him with Raidou.

Why would you want him to be when it makes no sense for either IP, at least Raidou comes from the SMT IP.