*SPOILER* Motivation. . .

[devilmalice]

Can anyone explain to me Vergil's fixation on Dante this time?
V has stated that "complete him" suffered many losses to Dante but he had to defeat him before he dies, hence the act of separation that started the game. But what confuses me is this: in DMC 3 Vergil wants to become more powerful and sought knowledge on obtaining the ultimate power, the power of his father. What got Dante into the mix is that he holds the key to unlock that power. Also he doesn't like Vergil.

Meanwhile, Vergil got what he wanted and doesn't seem to be bothered by Dante's presence nor considers him a threat. They bicker (fight) along the way but in the end ,the meat of the story, Vergil saw that the obstacle, that it's his brother in his way to obtain their father's power, must be eliminated. The Extent however wasn't shown, was Vergil willing to kill Dante to get Sparda's powers?

He lost.

V stated the reason why Vergil wants power. And that's what irks me. What does he gain from actually defeating Dante, the main reason of this game's events?

[Bstel]

Probably he just sees Dante as unfinished business, especially after his time as Nelo Angelo. Also, Dante and Nero's ideology is a huge slap in the face for Vergil.

Vergil was willing to sacrifice everything to gain power. Meanwhile, Dante and Nero holds to the things they hold dear with an iron grip and gain powers because of it. Dante (and then Nero) represents everything wrong with Vergil's ideology.

[Argstein]

if it's anything like Inuyasha lore, the two brothers would have inherited different TYPES of swords entirely from their father. Sesshōmaru inherited the life-giving blade (able to ressurect the dead), and Inuyasha inherited an essentially normal weapon, albiet an extremely powerful one. If DMC5 lore is similar then perhaps Vergil got a lousy inheritance compared to Dante, and thus he needs to steal Dante's inheritance in order to perhaps combine the two into one that grants "ultimate power"...

but that's all just speculation and obviously Yamato is not a life-giving blade nor is it gimped in any way at all seemingly...

[Snacbo]

Well, in my opinion, it seems that Dante is his only way to truly test whether he has gained ultimate power since there hasn't been anyone else on his playing field (except Mundus, but he mainly defeated Vergil due to his weakened state at the time, and Dante defeated Mundus, so by extension, Dante would be better than Mundus). Without this goal to work towards, there's no way he would know the extent of his power.

Ergo, by defeating Dante, he knows for certain if his efforts...bore fruit (badum tss)

[devilmalice]

Vergil didn't get to grow much as a character and I didn't read all the novels/mangas but the jest is still the same, he wants more power. And Urizen says it loud. The real reason is he doesn't want to feel helpless again. That I get as @Bisul said what Vergil would do to get that power even if it means unleashing hell on earth.

I get the rivalry between the two since they were kids. And I read a couple of panels of the comic that showed Nelo Angelo has some remaining memory about himself and Dante actually angry at his brother because he always best him. But is that what it is? Who is better?
Like I said in the OP, that doesn't seem like Vergil in 3 because (well to me anyway) it isn't about Dante at all. It's about Vergil not being the same 8 year old when he faces dangers.

[george47mathew]

Originally posted by asdfwasdf:

if it's anything like Inuyasha lore, the two brothers would have inherited different TYPES of swords entirely from their father. Sesshōmaru inherited the life-giving blade (able to ressurect the dead), and Inuyasha inherited an essentially normal weapon, albiet an extremely powerful one. If DMC5 lore is similar then perhaps Vergil got a lousy inheritance compared to Dante, and thus he needs to steal Dante's inheritance in order to perhaps combine the two into one that grants "ultimate power"...

but that's all just speculation and obviously Yamato is not a life-giving blade nor is it gimped in any way at all seemingly...

Not really...

Vergil wanted power and more of it...at first he wanted that through obtaining the Sparda sword, but here he seems uninterested with that. You see, he just wants power.

It does not have to be the Sparda sword. He just wants power and he was willing to go for any means. In here he clearly says he has no use for that sword.

He already has Yamato. Dante has the uninteresting Rebellion sword which was just an oversized and decorated lump of metal.

Sparda sword was actually sealed away. It was not specifically given to Dante or Vergil. Its not Dante's inheritance.


Vergil simply lost sight of his goals on why he even needs more power, he just wanted more, even he does not have a clear reason on why or to protect who with it. Which is why he looses...even though he has power and skill. Both Dante and Nero has firm reasons to fight and thats to protect. You can clearly see Vergil is very confused in the end only fights Dante out of habit. This time maybe he'll try Dante's theory....

[george47mathew]

Originally posted by devilmalice:

Vergil didn't get to grow much as a character and I didn't read all the novels/mangas but the jest is still the same, he wants more power. And Urizen says it loud. The real reason is he doesn't want to feel helpless again. That I get as @Bisul said what Vergil would do to get that power even if it means unleashing hell on earth.

I get the rivalry between the two since they were kids. And I read a couple of panels of the comic that showed Nelo Angelo has some remaining memory about himself and Dante actually angry at his brother because he always best him. But is that what it is? Who is better?
Like I said in the OP, that doesn't seem like Vergil in 3 because (well to me anyway) it isn't about Dante at all. It's about Vergil not being the same 8 year old when he faces dangers.

To Vergil he was left behind by his mother...at least thats what he thinks and it is the clear reason for his and Dante's animosity. But he still loves his mother deep down and his own bro. He could have KILLED Dante in 3, there were many chances.