SPOILER ALERT - just beat the game

[Tyrone Biggums]

alright so i just finished it and i have to say im pissed what kind of an ending was that? lets all be friends stop fighting dad? the final boss is just mashing the story is just a bunch of nothing honestly urizen ( vergil) comes back god knows how wants power and then eventually him and V merge to become whole to fight dante and then nothing

the ending we got was just open ended they went into the bottom of the tree to cut it down or something and it ends thats not an ending i pray theres planned DLC to continue the story and give us a real ending

but as far as im concerned blocking the real ending behind DLC is a big F you to the players

story being rubbish aside the gameplay is 10/10 loved it cant say anything bad the game is amazing in terms of combat and visuals but the story was not there after they went down to the tree after the garbage final fight i didnt expect it to end there i thought we were getting a 3 way with mundus or some other crazy thing not just '' hey brother lets cut down a tree''

what do you guys think about the games story and weak final boss/ending

[Dark Exsphere]

Deadman'shand eredeti hozzászólása:

Dark Exsphere eredeti hozzászólása:

Keep in mind Vergil and Dante just had a huge battle. Something similar to this happened in DMC3. They fought, and then a friggin clown overpowered them. That clown, in this game, being Nero.

Yes but Arkham played on their youthful hotheadedness and bided his time and waited for them to exhaust one another before he struck. Nero on the other hand pulled a gary stu and pulled Majin power out of his arse from nowhere. Also, Vergil overpowered Nero and tossed him like a ragdoll while he was basically a walking corpse and let us not forget how Dante made Nero look like a complete ♥♥♥♥♥ in DMC4, but we are expected to believe that Nero can stop both of them at the same time even when both are tired and in their most powerful forms? it reeks of Itsuno trying to fit Nero into something he never should have been apart of.

Yeah I can totally see where you're coming from. The way I see it though, like Dante, Nero is also demon slaying. In the start of DMC4 Nero was complete noob and Dante wrecked him. But since then Nero has been getting lots more experience in especially with this Devil Bringer arm. Vergil chopping it off I suppose caught him by surprise. And it's common in japanese media once someone powers up to a whole new level, they're usually OP right in the start. Like when Gohan became super saiyan 2. He was obliterating everyone then somehow became the underdog against the same enemy. Nero having a devil trigger was odd for me considering earlier in the game someone said he has no demon powers and he's just human. But the fact that he was able to transform was because of his resolve. that pep talk with his gf was the trigger. Kyrie saved the world. She's MVP. His desire to save his 'family' gave him strength. At least that's how I see it. Anime usually have similar plot points that make a character stronger outta nowhere.

[Grantorino]

I agree the ending was disapointing. Vergil has matured and changed his tune but it happened so fast. Its like a side of vergil weve never seen. Better be some dlc on the way

[Dark Exsphere]

「Grantorino」 eredeti hozzászólása:

I agree the ending was disapointing. Vergil has matured and changed his tune but it happened so fast. Its like a side of vergil weve never seen. Better be some dlc on the way

Thing is, Vergil was still obsessed with power prior the the prologue. Then after splitting he realized power isn't everything. Spending more time as his human form he realized that. He's still somewhat the same as before - seeing as he wanted to fight dante more than end the tree problem first. But I'm sure he realized becoming fully demon isn't the right thing. V mentions multiple times that it was a mistake.

[RadioMars]

Also there is a possible philosophical problem, which is not adressed. Is Vergil guilty for all the deaths Urizen has caused?

[Deadman'shand]

Dark Exsphere eredeti hozzászólása:

Deadman'shand eredeti hozzászólása:

Yes but Arkham played on their youthful hotheadedness and bided his time and waited for them to exhaust one another before he struck. Nero on the other hand pulled a gary stu and pulled Majin power out of his arse from nowhere. Also, Vergil overpowered Nero and tossed him like a ragdoll while he was basically a walking corpse and let us not forget how Dante made Nero look like a complete ♥♥♥♥♥ in DMC4, but we are expected to believe that Nero can stop both of them at the same time even when both are tired and in their most powerful forms? it reeks of Itsuno trying to fit Nero into something he never should have been apart of.

Yeah I can totally see where you're coming from. The way I see it though, like Dante, Nero is also demon slaying. In the start of DMC4 Nero was complete noob and Dante wrecked him. But since then Nero has been getting lots more experience in especially with this Devil Bringer arm. Vergil chopping it off I suppose caught him by surprise. And it's common in japanese media once someone powers up to a whole new level, they're usually OP right in the start. Like when Gohan became super saiyan 2. He was obliterating everyone then somehow became the underdog against the same enemy. Nero having a devil trigger was odd for me considering earlier in the game someone said he has no demon powers and he's just human. But the fact that he was able to transform was because of his resolve. that pep talk with his gf was the trigger. Kyrie saved the world. She's MVP. His desire to save his 'family' gave him strength. At least that's how I see it. Anime usually have similar plot points that make a character stronger outta nowhere.

Trish also caught Dante by surprise in DMC1 as well as Arkham's surprise demon attack at the start of DMC3 and he still squashed both of those problems without issue, but Nero can't handle a walking corpse? come on. As for the resolve Nero received, again, he is quarter demon, he couldn't even DT in DMC4 without the help of Yamato but now he can conjure up Majin because Kyrie said he was a good boy? if he can summon that kind of power despite having less demon blood in him than Dante or Vergil, does that mean his kid will be Sparda levels of power despite the fact the kid will be primarily human? Nero is just a gary stu at this point.

[Snowyheart]

I agree, I think even dmc4 had better story progression than this. So in DMC5 I don't like how first of all more than half of the game is the opening act and then you get thrown into the ending act without any real motives. I also really dislike how BOTH of them got to know what they are by the very end of the game, didn't give them time to develop that relationship, instead you see anime nakama powers.... How the "twist" was revealed though, I really like that. Because we already knew that already so it didn't have to be a big thing.
Just that both of them should have had time with that information and do something with it instead of ending the game right after.

[🎃MaximusBlastalot🎃]

ScapeGoat eredeti hozzászólása:

DMC 6 - Dante vs Vergil but now in the underworld

DMC 7 - Dante vs Vergil IN SPACE

DMC 8 - Dante vs Vergil + Mecha Godzilla team-up

All of these sound unironicaly awesome.

Add in some darksouls invasion and it be perfect.

[ChurchGorilla]

Deadman'shand eredeti hozzászólása:

pulled Majin power out of his arse from nowhere

DT. NOT MAJIN. FOR CHRISTS SAKE HE JUST UNLOCKED HIS REAL DT (ie not dependant upon the power of Yamato to create some cheap Stando bs)

Also, Vergil overpowered Nero and tossed him like a ragdoll while he was basically a walking corpse

Because back then Nero was still a weakling since he relied on the power of Yamato instead of his own powers.

but we are expected to believe that Nero can stop both of them at the same time even when both are tired and in their most powerful forms?

First, Dante and Vergil are worn out. If a dumb clown can beat those two in that state then a descendant of Sparda should have no issues doing the same.
Second, Nero unlocked his own DT, aka for the first time he tapped into his own powers instead of relying on some external power source (ie Yamato)

[Humanizer]

I completely agree! I loved the gameplay and all that, but the story? it felt like something was miSSSing and i could not understand what. If one of them died, would be truly epic tho. Love drama

[XGalakFlakes]

The ending is great.... dante and vergil era is over, in devil may cry 6 they comeback and help with another enemy for the last time. For me it was a great end

[Bejo]

♥♥♥♥♥♥♥, people that saying "vergil needs to be prosecuted for his crime!" seems to forgot he basically escape to hell for raising temen ni gru in DMC3, which is pretty much kill millions of civillian too

[Fennec]

梅毒―様 RubberduckzillA eredeti hozzászólása:

Main issues with the ending is Nero somehow being super powerful all of a sudden.

I think the big part of that is that it's pretty blatently said in the series that love and humanity trumps hate and inhumanity when it comes to demonic power. I mean, how many times now has Dante beaten Vergil while going on about how he lost his humanity or needs to accept it or whatever.

At the end of things, Dante has basically abandoned wanting to save or reconcile with Vergil and is literally there just to beat the ♥♥♥♥ out of him. So Nero, who now learns his has a FAMILY and realizes they're about to kill each other, rushes in to stop them while his demonic blood finally gives him a Devil Trigger.

...not to mention the two of them had just gone full force against each other and were both probably very exhausted.

[Jonathan]

I loved the story, honestly. If you've been following the series, then the ending honestly makes sense.

There's a lot of symbolism packed through the entire story and setting, so the ending just pulls it all together.

People think Nero's power up is from nowhere, but it's actually pretty on point with the build up we've been having to it through the entire game.

Vergil had an entire character arc as V and we finally get insight into his inner thoughts and demons.

Dante finally accepts his demonic half fully.

And.....Well, the DMC series has always been one massive family drama. What else did you expect?

Heck, even the music was basically massive spoilers if you pay attention to the lyrics and song titles, in hindsight.

I feel like a lot of peoples issues with the story is that you have to take a moment to really digest it and notice all the bits and bobs that were inter weaved.

The entire game was a perfect ending to the Sons of Sparda saga as it tied up a bunch of loose ends and finalized certain themes that had been following us through out the series.

[YourMumsMilkman]

I enjoyed the ending, but I think there needs to be a dlc or smaller game (like RE: revelations 2 episodes or something) where Virgil atones for his sins. It would be a good chance for players to like Virgil to play a story around him instead of non-cannon following in foot-tracks of the main storyline.

[Deadman'shand]

GMGMaker eredeti hozzászólása:

Deadman'shand eredeti hozzászólása:

pulled Majin power out of his arse from nowhere

DT. NOT MAJIN. FOR CHRISTS SAKE HE JUST UNLOCKED HIS REAL DT (ie not dependant upon the power of Yamato to create some cheap Stando bs)

Also, Vergil overpowered Nero and tossed him like a ragdoll while he was basically a walking corpse

Because back then Nero was still a weakling since he relied on the power of Yamato instead of his own powers.

but we are expected to believe that Nero can stop both of them at the same time even when both are tired and in their most powerful forms?

First, Dante and Vergil are worn out. If a dumb clown can beat those two in that state then a descendant of Sparda should have no issues doing the same.
Second, Nero unlocked his own DT, aka for the first time he tapped into his own powers instead of relying on some external power source (ie Yamato)

Oh, okay, so Nero, despite having less demonic potential than his father and uncle as well as less experience than his Uncle is able to conjure up power equal to Majin with just a regular 'ol DT. Makes complete sense. Glad you cleared that up, here I was thinking he's just a Gary Stu but clearly all that crying makes you that strong. "Nero was a weakling since he relied on the power of Yamato instead of his own powers" So, he had the advantage of, you know, not being near dead and he still lost. Not doing much to not earn that dead weight nickname if he can't even stop his dad from taking his arm despite Vergil being a walking zombie held together by nothing by duct tape and motivation. "First Dante and Vergil are worn out. If a dumb clown can beat those two in that state then a descendant of Sparda should have no problem" You do remember how Arkham played them both and used their hatred for one another to enact his plan and the fact both of them were stupid teenagers well susceptible to manipulation? Nero didn't have a plan, he rang up Kyrie, had a cry, then somehow overpowered Dante and Vergil with just a regular DT even though both were in their Majin forms, which judging from what we see from Dante, makes you a literal God and so you would assume both would be immune to the effects of fatigue in that form, yes? So, Nero being able to overpower them should not have been possible unless Nero's DT has a hidden power to drain Majin power which could be a possibility or maybe they both just de-majined down just to give him a chance. Either way, even if they were tired, they should have been able to handle Nero easily even with his DT form, but I guess Itsuno figured Nero needed more screen time and to have his creation look better next to Kamiya's creations.