Devil May Cry 5

Devil May Cry 5

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El Fuerte Sep 23, 2018 @ 4:56pm
Minimum requirement: Core i7
So that means a Core i5 4690k @4.00Ghz won't play at 60 fps?
Last edited by El Fuerte; Sep 23, 2018 @ 4:59pm
Originally posted by United_Strafes:
No it means they don't know what they're talking about, unless they're one of the under 10 games in the world that takes advantage of hyperthreading.
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United_Strafes Sep 23, 2018 @ 5:35pm 
No it means they don't know what they're talking about, unless they're one of the under 10 games in the world that takes advantage of hyperthreading.
KillingArts Sep 23, 2018 @ 5:47pm 
Originally posted by United_Strafes:
No it means they don't know what they're talking about, unless they're one of the under 10 games in the world that takes advantage of hyperthreading.

That's not really true. Many games benefit from an i7, especially if you go beyond 60fps. (Of course that doesn't mean this game won't run well with an i5.)
United_Strafes Sep 23, 2018 @ 5:57pm 
Originally posted by KillingArts:
Originally posted by United_Strafes:
No it means they don't know what they're talking about, unless they're one of the under 10 games in the world that takes advantage of hyperthreading.

That's not really true. Many games benefit from an i7, especially if you go beyond 60fps. (Of course that doesn't mean this game won't run well with an i5.)
Ya you're right look at any benchmark ever with an i7 you'll get a whopping 2-3% increase. There's even older games that run worse with hyperthreading.

Hyperthreading will help in one way (now in 2018) that's running background tasks better therefor freeing up more resources for the game.

Last edited by United_Strafes; Sep 23, 2018 @ 5:58pm
KillingArts Sep 23, 2018 @ 9:56pm 
Originally posted by United_Strafes:
Originally posted by KillingArts:

That's not really true. Many games benefit from an i7, especially if you go beyond 60fps. (Of course that doesn't mean this game won't run well with an i5.)
Ya you're right look at any benchmark ever with an i7 you'll get a whopping 2-3% increase. There's even older games that run worse with hyperthreading.

Hyperthreading will help in one way (now in 2018) that's running background tasks better therefor freeing up more resources for the game.

Just a few examples:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uwUEVEbZxI4

Look at Ashes and Crysis 3. Quite the difference. It's not always just 2-3%. Sometimes it can actually mean the difference between 40 and 50fps.

And if you also think RAM clocks are irrelevant and buying anything above 2133MHz is a waste of money, here you go:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Er_Fuz54U0Y
El Fuerte Sep 23, 2018 @ 10:13pm 
i wasnt talking about core speed. It was more about having i7 as minimum which implies that any i5 won't do the job.
Wakane Sep 23, 2018 @ 10:59pm 
Min req i7? Probably they’re just covering themselves in the case the game happens to be not optimized

“Hey, it’s slow!”
“Well, we told you min req i7”
“That’s crazy!”
“We TOLD you before. Don’t blame us!”
Naxshe Sep 24, 2018 @ 3:14am 
yea im hoping my amd-fx 8350 is up to the task. i meet all the others just not the cpu. but at least im overclocked to 4.0ghz
Last edited by Naxshe; Sep 24, 2018 @ 3:14am
KillingArts Sep 24, 2018 @ 3:46am 
Originally posted by Naxshe:
yea im hoping my amd-fx 8350 is up to the task. i meet all the others just not the cpu. but at least im overclocked to 4.0ghz

With the 8350 it's not only about the actual performance, but also about CPU extensions. They might require an extension that the 8350 does not support, which would make it impossible to run the game. Let's hope this is not the case here (sadly happened with some games lately).
Naxshe Sep 24, 2018 @ 3:55am 
Originally posted by KillingArts:
Originally posted by Naxshe:
yea im hoping my amd-fx 8350 is up to the task. i meet all the others just not the cpu. but at least im overclocked to 4.0ghz

With the 8350 it's not only about the actual performance, but also about CPU extensions. They might require an extension that the 8350 does not support, which would make it impossible to run the game. Let's hope this is not the case here (sadly happened with some games lately).
what games can it not run? i havnt run into one yet
Naxshe Sep 24, 2018 @ 4:00am 
Originally posted by KillingArts:
Originally posted by Naxshe:
yea im hoping my amd-fx 8350 is up to the task. i meet all the others just not the cpu. but at least im overclocked to 4.0ghz

With the 8350 it's not only about the actual performance, but also about CPU extensions. They might require an extension that the 8350 does not support, which would make it impossible to run the game. Let's hope this is not the case here (sadly happened with some games lately).
it also uses the same engine as RE7 which runs fine so i doubt it wont be supported
United_Strafes Sep 24, 2018 @ 4:18am 
Originally posted by KillingArts:
Originally posted by United_Strafes:
Ya you're right look at any benchmark ever with an i7 you'll get a whopping 2-3% increase. There's even older games that run worse with hyperthreading.

Hyperthreading will help in one way (now in 2018) that's running background tasks better therefor freeing up more resources for the game.

Just a few examples:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uwUEVEbZxI4

Look at Ashes and Crysis 3. Quite the difference. It's not always just 2-3%. Sometimes it can actually mean the difference between 40 and 50fps.

And if you also think RAM clocks are irrelevant and buying anything above 2133MHz is a waste of money, here you go:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Er_Fuz54U0Y
Ya it's always going to be an improvement, and ashaes of the singularity is one of the games that uses hyperthreading, lol. As for the other games it's simply faster single core speed. Games and applications that are not MULTITHREADED will not take advantage by themselves.

My point is the stupidity of a major game developer putting an i7 as a requirement...EVER. Unless thier game is multithreaded.
Naxshe Sep 24, 2018 @ 4:48am 
Originally posted by United_Strafes:
Originally posted by KillingArts:

Just a few examples:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uwUEVEbZxI4

Look at Ashes and Crysis 3. Quite the difference. It's not always just 2-3%. Sometimes it can actually mean the difference between 40 and 50fps.

And if you also think RAM clocks are irrelevant and buying anything above 2133MHz is a waste of money, here you go:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Er_Fuz54U0Y
Ya it's always going to be an improvement, and ashaes of the singularity is one of the games that uses hyperthreading, lol. As for the other games it's simply faster single core speed. Games and applications that are not MULTITHREADED will not take advantage by themselves.

My point is the stupidity of a major game developer putting an i7 as a requirement...EVER. Unless thier game is multithreaded.
so do u think its a mistake and much lower cpu's are capable
DarkJuda On Deck Sep 24, 2018 @ 5:14am 
If they plan on making the game run just like RE7 at 60fps on PS4 and xbox one with their weak CPUs, I don't think the CPU usage would be an issue on pc, no matter what the requirements says.

Let me remind you that the low requirements for RE7 asks for a i5 4460, which was actually capable to run the game with more than 100fps most the time, if not all the time. And for the HD collection, they ask for a 960 for the recommended requirements, which could run the game at 4k without issues.
So Capcom likes to make rough overestimates.

Other than that, it's no use to theorise about that 6 months prior release considering we won't know for sure until the demo gets released. Then we'll see if their is indeed a big problem or not.
KillingArts Sep 24, 2018 @ 6:17am 
Originally posted by United_Strafes:
Ya it's always going to be an improvement, and ashaes of the singularity is one of the games that uses hyperthreading, lol. As for the other games it's simply faster single core speed. Games and applications that are not MULTITHREADED will not take advantage by themselves.

My point is the stupidity of a major game developer putting an i7 as a requirement...EVER. Unless thier game is multithreaded.

It's not only about hyperthreading. I guess the bigger cache also plays a role. The difference we see in some games is definitely not explained by just a few more MHz. Also you will notice that an i5 sometimes has worse frame times.

Yes, in some games you simply will not see any difference. And if you only play in 60fps or below, an i7 is probably a waste of time. But if you have a display with high refresh rate, an i7 can mean an increase of 15 fps - and that's definitely worth it then (for me at least).

Originally posted by Naxshe:
so do u think its a mistake and much lower cpu's are capable

If your CPU meets the requirements (in terms of CPU features, not the Steam requirements), the game will most likely run without any errors. You can also be sure that a modern i5 will have no problems running this game at a good frame rate. Question is what you mean by "much lower". If you have a very weak CPU, it is possible that you cannot hold 60fps. But that's something no one can really answer you now. We will have to wait for the release and look at the benchmarks then.
Sardaukar Sep 24, 2018 @ 6:27am 
lol using shintel as a baseline for requirements in 2018
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