Hell and Hell S-Rank Issues - Mission 8, 10, 12

[Slayer Seraph]

I'm kinda stick with Hell and Hell at M8. I can't get S Rank there, although I'm close. It's an impossible mission to No Damage technically.

I want to know the best path to take, what I do now is this:
Start off by skipping trash enemies.
Fight 1: Ragtime+Super Buster to kill Fury.
Fight 2: SKIP - I jump over the pit.
Fight 3: I kill the 3 flyers quickly. Ragrime+DT+Super Buster Proto Angelo.
Fight 4: I DON'T SKIP: FALL DOWN. Build SSS and kill all mobs, Ragtime+DT Behemoth. Super Buster. Keep killing mobs.
Fight 5: that's hard one: that damn nobody. I just charge shot and buster everything with DT.

Skip everything else.

Urizen: I use Charged shot mainly with DT if possible. And Gerbera to deflect the damn red fireball of doom. I fly over the lasers. Ragtime too. Not real plan.

I passed the level twice now, with 5.2k and 5414. Which was very frustrating because I felt like I did Perfectly. I did get hit by the stupid fireball and by falling onto a laser.

M9: I would have No Damaged it but I got hit while the camera freaked out by a nobody. Those damn things have instant leap of death what telegraph too.

Mission 10:
Haven't started yet. I would appreciate advice before hand. I thought of Faust machinegun and try no damage...
I actually S Rank this without any cheese and pure hard work on DH, SOS and DMD.

[Slayer Seraph]

Imo it's really unfair hoe broken the scoring system is. S Rank HaH shouldn't be a thing. The requirement should have heen 4-4.5 max or none at all.
The game system contradict itself. It punishes making short work of enemies and surviving with skill, and rewards grinding and cheesing...
And the fact you lose the no continue bonus makes it horrible...

[Slayer Seraph]

Help, please.
It's really frustrating. The game hardly rewards your best efforts.

I'm totally stuck at m8. My rank for the Fury and Angelo fight is stucj at ariund 4.2-4.3K even though I kick their ass.
I nearly always get hit by the Nobody fight...
Even if I don't get hit by Urizen 1st form I still finish with 5.1-5.3....
I wrote my path in above.

[Hydris]

For Nobody fight:

1. Hit one of the Baphomets to knock down its force field, then grab and hold him.

2. Kill the other two.

3. If the Baphomet escpes your hold, grab him again.

4. Kill Nobody.

5. Kill Lone Baphomet.

[Slayer Seraph]

Sounds a bit tricky. I use X for Bringer.

What about the ranking? And did I take the right path?
These Missions are so skimpy when it comes to rewardig you

The 1st 2 fights I kill the Fury and Proto as swift as possible. Because they are too risky...

I really don't know how I'm supposed to to get over 5.5k without No Continue bonus.

[Hydris]

I haven't S ranked this mission yet. But that Nobody fight was real easy for me.

Generally if I'm struggling with Style Points, I resort to Showdowns which are do-able if you knock over Nelo Angelo and the Nobody.

[Slayer Seraph]

For m10 I can't beat it yet No Damage... The Bat plus Fury fight is horrid and Juddeca dodging my meteors all the time

[Slayer Seraph]

Originally posted by Hydris:

I haven't S ranked this mission yet. But that Nobody fight was real easy for me.

Generally if I'm struggling with Style Points, I resort to Showdowns which are do-able if you knock over Nelo Angelo and the Nobody.

It's really getting on my nerves. Even if I do all fights perfectly , I still barely get enough points... And redoing this longest mission is a nightmare and irritating.

[Hydris]

Wow, it's a video game. If you aren't having fun, take a break.

[Slayer Seraph]

Originally posted by Hydris:

Wow, it's a video game. If you aren't having fun, take a break.

Well I know, but even hard games have to be fair.

And this scoring system (to S Rank) is totally broken in both concept and functionality and self contradictory with HaH.. It's just unrewarding and not fun. If you kill enemies like with skill and brains, quickly and smoothly you get less rewards for doing cheese and grinds.
You lose style on random enemies Instead of assisting you. And se fights just reward too little..
S Rank HaH shouldn't be a factor, it's an accomplishment enough to pass it. Survival is key, not style. So what gives?

Nothing like destorying enemies with S-SSS only to see 4K-5k~ .
Anyway I still get hit in Nobody fight (from Behomat now) and Urizen sometimes (lasers, blasts, balls, Spikes...) And getting style on him is too slow...
I mean I got 5414 on my first attempt, but now can't get close...

[Hydris]

I don't like the averaging score system either and having to skip demons.

But I like the added challenge of getting scored on HAH. I played it as a regular mode in DMC4 and got S ranks there, but the save file never reflected that.

[Slayer Seraph]

Originally posted by Hydris:

I don't like the averaging score system either and having to skip demons.

But I like the added challenge of getting scored on HAH. I played it as a regular mode in DMC4 and got S ranks there, but the save file never reflected that.

Well, they should have at least lowered the roof to 4500 or 5000 at most. Or reward fights in a more balanced way (m8,10,12,18 are notoriously broken).

I already know I HAVE to do No Damage on m10 HaH. Which is a huge feat to conquer. I got close on my 1st attempt but Hell Bat got me...

I also assume M12 requires No Damage.

[T-Minus]

I was having trouble as well with mission 8, I was finally able to get it by grabbing both Antenoras by holding down buster while using dt during the first fight and then performing Nero's dance, I was able to get 5700 points eventually even tough I lost half my health to the Fury that time.

After that I skipped the fights I could however I touched the ground at the first pit to make the enemies spawn, that way my previous score off 5700 showed instead when I left the area without hitting any enemies, I am not sure if it actually counts but I did it just to be on the safe side.

[Slayer Seraph]

M10 No Damage - HaH - Do I need to Destroy Urizen's shield or just survive for a while like in all modes? (I think it's a minute).

Also - any tips how to ensure DT Meteor destroy Juddecas and Furies? I get over Level 1 DT Meteor and only do 80 % damage for Furies - even though I hit sqaurely. And often miss Juddecas.

[Medusahead]

Mission 08: You're allowed to get killed in the final battle but you must get consistent SSS+ rank on all mandatory fights. You must keep your style as high as possible to get the S rank at the end.

If you beat Urizen I think it's an automatic S rank.

Mission 10: Farm sin devil trigger during the difficult sections with the teleporting commanders. use detonation to kill tough enemies in one hit. Keep style at SSS+, or if you can't get some taunts and royal guard parries whenever possible. The proto angelo can be killed in one hit with SDT.

[Gerver]

Urizen first phase can be finished in like 40 seconds using Helter Skelter normal drill with bringer knuckle.
When I wasted my life killing him on DMD first part when he is sitting on chair became as trivial as killing Empusa, just practice it.
It like shot-shot-shot, ex3 streak, drill a bit, dodge back from Artemis rain lasers, Ex Shuffle, do the full drill, 3 shot, parry fireball, parry second fireball, get back in fight, do the full drill and shield is broken.