How do I get Urizen's boss photos?

[Dan_the_Druid]

So once you beat the game you unlock a feature where you can unlock bonus photos of the bosses if you beat them again, and you get two photos if you beat them with an S-Rank, I've gotten almost all the other photos for the bosses but I can't seem to get them for Urizen. I got his photos for the mission 17 fight, but not the ones for his Prologue/Mission 8 forms. I know these photos exist because the wiki has all of them up in a gallery:

https://devilmaycry.fandom.com/wiki/File:DMC5_Clear_Bonus_Art_1.png

https://devilmaycry.fandom.com/wiki/File:DMC5_Clear_Bonus_Art_2.png

I've killed Urizen in the prologue and gotten the secret ending and an S-Rank but that didn't do it, I've gotten an S-Rank against him in the prologue without killing him, I've killed him as Dante in mission 12 with an S-Rank, but I haven't managed to kill him as Nero in mission 8. Has anyone gotten these photos, does anyone know how to? Also google is no help as there almost no easily accessible information about the boss photos, so any help would be much appreciated, thanks in advance.

Oh and I've gotten all the other photos by replaying the missions on Devil hunter again so it seems like difficulty and replaying the levels again isn't a factor that prevents you from getting them. Currently my only remaining theories on how you get them are: you have to beat Urizen in Mission 8 as Nero, you have to beat him on a higher difficulty than Devil Hunter unlike the rest of the photos, or you actually can't get these and they just exist in the game's files and that's how the wiki has them, although I doubt that last one.

[Dan_the_Druid]

Edit: Okay so it looks like killing him in mission 8 isn't the way either because I found videos of people killing him with an S-Rank and on their results screen they also didn't get the photos just like when I did it in the prologue.

[kipkeior]

My speculation is that the photos are in the files of the game but someone has forgotten to make them accessible, since I've been trying no damage the prologue with all the difficulties except DMD and Hell and Hell

[kipkeior]

Not even getting a no damage run on every difficulty gives you the photos , if that doesn't work then it's impossible to obtain it through the normal way

[Dan_the_Druid]

Originally posted by kipkeior:

Not even getting a no damage run on every difficulty gives you the photos , if that doesn't work then it's impossible to obtain it through the normal way

Yeah, every video and forum post online I've looked at seems to indicate that you can't get them in-game. Another interesting tidbit I noticed during this process is that when you fight Nightmare Griffon and Shadow in mission 18 you get photos for their boss fight, one being a group shot of them and the other a picture of Dante eating a sundae. Interestingly, they don't have a boss fight entry for whatever reason, so once you get these photos there's no way to view them except by beating the mission again to see them.

[kipkeior]

Originally posted by Dan_The_Druid:

Originally posted by kipkeior:

Not even getting a no damage run on every difficulty gives you the photos , if that doesn't work then it's impossible to obtain it through the normal way

Yeah, every video and forum post online I've looked at seems to indicate that you can't get them in-game. Another interesting tidbit I noticed during this process is that when you fight Nightmare Griffon and Shadow in mission 18 you get photos for their boss fight, one being a group shot of them and the other a picture of Dante eating a sundae. Interestingly, they don't have a boss fight entry for whatever reason, so once you get these photos there's no way to view them except by beating the mission again to see them.

Atleast in mission 18 I know I got the 2 photos even though can't find them in the enemy library, but with Urizen it's a little annoying because I know they are in the game but can't get them for unknown reasons.
My completionist heart will not be satisfied until I get those photos.

[Dan_the_Druid]

Originally posted by kipkeior:

Originally posted by Dan_The_Druid:

Yeah, every video and forum post online I've looked at seems to indicate that you can't get them in-game. Another interesting tidbit I noticed during this process is that when you fight Nightmare Griffon and Shadow in mission 18 you get photos for their boss fight, one being a group shot of them and the other a picture of Dante eating a sundae. Interestingly, they don't have a boss fight entry for whatever reason, so once you get these photos there's no way to view them except by beating the mission again to see them.

Atleast in mission 18 I know I got the 2 photos even though can't find them in the enemy library, but with Urizen it's a little annoying because I know they are in the game but can't get them for unknown reasons.
My completionist heart will not be satisfied until I get those photos.

Yeah I know what you mean, knowing they exist but being unable to get them is annoying. I feel like the reason for it is because the photos are stated to be given to you when an enemy is defeated, and even though you can kill Urizen early for a bonus ending, in canon he isn't "defeated " in his earlier forms.