Question about inheritance

[Elegant Caveman]

I'm a little confused about my current situation, wondering if someone could help clarify things.

I'm playing the fifth tutorial (where you have to attack Rome) and the succession type is Absolute Cognatic Primogeniture (genders inherit equally, oldest child inherits).

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3416787290

What's confusing me is that 4th in line used to be my heir's third child, but she's been bypassed by the first child of her older brother (3rd in line).

I was wondering what caused this. The only thing I can think of is that by making her a city governor, this affected the succession somehow?

Is that it? Something else? What am I missing?

Cheers.

[tiamats4esgares]

Originally posted by Elegant Caveman:

I'm a little confused about my current situation, wondering if someone could help clarify things.

I'm playing the fifth tutorial (where you have to attack Rome) and the succession type is Absolute Cognatic Primogeniture (genders inherit equally, oldest child inherits).

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3416787290

What's confusing me is that 4th in line used to be my heir's third child, but she's been bypassed by the first child of her older brother (3rd in line).

I was wondering what caused this. The only thing I can think of is that by making her a city governor, this affected the succession somehow?

Is that it? Something else? What am I missing?

Cheers.

Uh...it should've been the birth of Theano that caused it? Or the legitimacy of her.

Why isn't Pheretima in the line of succession? Is she illegitimate?

I just typed a whole bunch and accidentally deleted. I don't think I'll type as much this time...

The succession goes to your oldest kid, then their oldest kid, then that kid's oldest kid, etc. before it goes to siblings. Why don't you think Phila should be 1st? Because the Queen's sister isn't 1st in line (in Absolute Cognatic Primogeniture, which is what I always use myself and the way many RL monarchs work today).

If Cynane had any children, they'd be ahead of Machatas, but she doesn't, so that's why he'd be her heir (assuming neither of them die before she becomes queen). But Machatas DOES have children, so THEY take place before his younger sister.

Where I'm confused (and it just might be I don't know how to read it) is why isn't Pheretima 4th in line. I'm guessing she's not legitimate? Or another reason she can't become queen.

But yeah, after Theano it would be Stratonice, then Stratonice's son Derdas, then Phila. HOWEVER, if Theano has any kids, they will be higher up the line than Stratonice.

Stratonice basically lost her chance at the throne when her older brother started cranking out children.

EDIT: By the way, there's an option in-game to Stratonice the heir if you wanted to, but you would lose legitimacy doing it and make anyone above her in line mad at you. If you made Stratonice the heir, I THINK Derdas would immediately become 2nd in line since it's her son, then it would start back normal rules after that.

[Elegant Caveman]

Originally posted by tiamats4esgares:

Uh...it should've been the birth of Theano that caused it? Or the legitimacy of her.

Probably was. Didn't notice quite what it happened.

But considering your explanations below, that would explain it, yes.

Originally posted by tiamats4esgares:

Why isn't Pheretima in the line of succession? Is she illegitimate?

Correct, she's illegitimate.

Originally posted by tiamats4esgares:

I just typed a whole bunch and accidentally deleted. I don't think I'll type as much this time...

I've been there too often myself... I feel your pain.

Thank you for trying again, even if it's less. I know how tempting it is to just give up when that happens.

Originally posted by tiamats4esgares:

The succession goes to your oldest kid, then their oldest kid, then that kid's oldest kid, etc. before it goes to siblings.

That explains it, thank you.

I figured it went through a whole generation before going to the next, and not "eldest of the eldest". Just "eldest of a generation, then on to the next".

Originally posted by tiamats4esgares:

Why don't you think Phila should be 1st? Because the Queen's sister isn't 1st in line (in Absolute Cognatic Primogeniture, which is what I always use myself and the way many RL monarchs work today).

Sorry, I cut things off a bit by zooming in so the names wouldn't be too small.

Alexander is still alive, and immortal, since I'm on the tutorial. Phila is his niece, daughter of his long-gone brother.

Eryxo, the heir, is Alexander's daughter.

Originally posted by tiamats4esgares:

If Cynane had any children, they'd be ahead of Machatas, but she doesn't, so that's why he'd be her heir (assuming neither of them die before she becomes queen). But Machatas DOES have children, so THEY take place before his younger sister.

Gotcha. Makes sense, thank you.

Originally posted by tiamats4esgares:

Where I'm confused (and it just might be I don't know how to read it) is why isn't Pheretima 4th in line. I'm guessing she's not legitimate? Or another reason she can't become queen.

Illegitimate, yes.

Originally posted by tiamats4esgares:

EDIT: By the way, there's an option in-game to Stratonice the heir if you wanted to, but you would lose legitimacy doing it and make anyone above her in line mad at you. If you made Stratonice the heir, I THINK Derdas would immediately become 2nd in line since it's her son, then it would start back normal rules after that.

I'm aware, thank you. I'm not actually concerned about who the heir is right now, though, since Alexander's immortal in the tutorial.

I just figured this was a good time to understand how things work for when it actually matters.

[armbarchris]

♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ this game has an actual family tree? Where?

[Elegant Caveman]

Originally posted by armbarchris:

♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ this game has an actual family tree? Where?

F3.

You can also click the icon in the top left.