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joel.west Feb 22, 2024 @ 12:25pm
how do you end tribal peace, part two
I previously reported this problem, but I unable to continue the discussion since thread was locked. so here goes -

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I do not know if this is intended or a bug but if you accept some **coin** (money) from a tribe for a **peace treaty** then you are **PERMANENTLY at peace** with them, even if you surround a city of the tribe and it becomes a **minor city** of yours

there is apparently **no turn timer** to end this peace (unlike every other 4x game). if **all their cities** are taken over or become a minor city the tribe is then **vanquished** and **no longer listed** as a tribe in the game

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I base this upon the two tribes I accepted coin (money) for a treaty in my current game -

1. one tribe **disappeared** because I took all 3 of their remaining city sites with a settler AFTER another nation cleared the city site of units. (I could not clear the city tiles myself because the **peace treaty** meant I could not declare war on them)
2. the other tribe is **listed still** as a tribe. I took one surrounded camp as a **minor city** and have surrounded their last remaining tribal camp with my own city tiles to also turn this last camp into a minor city. so then they will be **vanquished** and disappear from the game

however several turns and gone by since I surrounded them and they still have not become a minor city for the surrounding tile city of mine

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actual nations have also offered coin (money) for a peace treaty. I have not accepted any of these since there is no in game documentation about a turn timer on such a peace
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Dale Kent Feb 22, 2024 @ 1:09pm 
If you go to the nations/tribes tab (third tab) and then select the tribe you are at peace with, in the left hand action panel should be the option "Break Peace". Does that not show for you?

There is no diplomacy timer for that, but there is the action button.
Last edited by Dale Kent; Feb 22, 2024 @ 1:09pm
joel.west Feb 22, 2024 @ 1:24pm 
please refer to original thread. I am very aware of how to bring up the list of nations including tribal nations. after being at peace (since I accepted their bribe) I have ZERO = no possible actions with such a nation tribe. neither break peace or declare war

this behavior occurred for both tribal nations for whichI accepted a peace bribe
Dale Kent Feb 22, 2024 @ 2:22pm 
Okay, I found the original thread here: https://steamcommunity.com/app/597180/discussions/0/4202490257581772687/

It's not closed btw, and Fluffy mentioned if the in-game bug report is playing up you can always email the save file to support@mohawkgames.com. But's that's all good. :)

So to clarify, the tribe paid you tribute to enter peace, and from that moment you are unable to bring up the action panel for that tribe?

Let me play around with this, this morning and I'll see if I can repro it.
Dale Kent Feb 22, 2024 @ 3:24pm 
Okay, spent a while trying to find the combination to repro the issue without success.

Could you please email the save file, and the log files (from /Documents/MyGames/OldWorld/Logs/) to the email support@mohawkgames.com

Please say in the email that I requested it so the ticket gets assigned to me. Thanks. :)
joel.west Feb 27, 2024 @ 2:59pm 
just sent save files to that email address. there is another bug. unable to buy tiles to expand city of Clevsin on west of map. I was able to buy some bordering tiles, but now I have no more options to add any more tiles
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Date Posted: Feb 22, 2024 @ 12:25pm
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