Freedom Planet 2

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Crystal-Hero Oct 12, 2022 @ 7:02am
Is Lilac really a water dragon?!
I get she’s a hybrid water “dragon” and not supposed to look like Merga BUT…
She has no passive or active abilities that shows she’s half water dragon in any of the water segments of the game.

She doesn’t swim faster in water (her speed in water is literally the same as the other girls), she doesn’t heal from her injuries in water, she CAN’T BREATHE in water or have a higher lung capacity in water allowing her to stay in the water longer than the other girls.

With the evidence I’m seeing, it leaves me to believe that Lilac ISN’T a water dragon, cause she simply doesn’t have any basic abilities a water dragon or ANY aquatic creature has within water.

For the plot to have a huge story of Lilac being one of the last “water dragons”, you’d think her story in this game would focus on her water dragon abilities and such, but SHE HAS NOTHING!

I can’t even consider her as a Otter, with the lack of water like abilities she DON’T even have.

This isn’t a attack on the game or anything like that. Just me pointing out my findings on Lilac being a supposed “Hybrid Water Dragon”

She’s a hybrid lemur or monkey at best.

FYI, I love the game, just stating that.
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cupcom5 Oct 12, 2022 @ 7:18am 
I love the game too, and I was just telling someone else about this in the reviews. It would've been a nice touch if her having a higher lung capacity was added since she's not a full blooded water dragon like Merga.

Definitely a Lemur at best, though. I also noticed the actual artwork shows her tail looking more fluffy than scaly.

https://www.giantbomb.com/sash-lilac/3005-32106/

O_o
Last edited by cupcom5; Oct 12, 2022 @ 7:20am
Crystal-Hero Oct 12, 2022 @ 7:32am 
Originally posted by cupcom5:
I love the game too, and I was just telling someone else about this in the reviews. It would've been a nice touch if her having a higher lung capacity was added since she's not a full blooded water dragon like Merga.

Definitely a Lemur at best, though. I also noticed the actual artwork shows her tail looking more fluffy than scaly.

https://www.giantbomb.com/sash-lilac/3005-32106/

O_o

I did not know she had a tail!! And it is furry.
Name me one dragon that has a furry tail or is covered in fur
cupcom5 Oct 12, 2022 @ 7:40am 
Originally posted by Crystal-Hero:
Originally posted by cupcom5:
I love the game too, and I was just telling someone else about this in the reviews. It would've been a nice touch if her having a higher lung capacity was added since she's not a full blooded water dragon like Merga.

Definitely a Lemur at best, though. I also noticed the actual artwork shows her tail looking more fluffy than scaly.

https://www.giantbomb.com/sash-lilac/3005-32106/

O_o

I did not know she had a tail!! And it is furry.
Name me one dragon that has a furry tail or is covered in fur


I honestly can't think of any dragons with fur. It's not a bash at the game, but just something that occured to me as well about her "Water Dragon" heritage.
Last edited by cupcom5; Oct 12, 2022 @ 7:48am
Blackmore Oct 12, 2022 @ 7:51am 
She does look nothing like Merga. It would be interesting to see what Freedom Planet would like if Lilac was fishlike.
cupcom5 Oct 12, 2022 @ 8:03am 
Originally posted by Blackmore:
She does look nothing like Merga. It would be interesting to see what Freedom Planet would like if Lilac was fishlike.

I agree! If they want her to still look all cutesy like now that's fine and dandy, but they could at least have her look it a little more, or at least have a few attributes pertaining a water dragon

I can't think of any dragons out there that have a black nose and fur instead of scales, especially water types.
Crystal-Hero Oct 12, 2022 @ 8:12am 
Originally posted by Blackmore:
She does look nothing like Merga. It would be interesting to see what Freedom Planet would like if Lilac was fishlike.

Lol, I kinda wanna see that, she looks too much like a mammal, not dragon material
Originally posted by cupcom5:
Originally posted by Crystal-Hero:

I did not know she had a tail!! And it is furry.
Name me one dragon that has a furry tail or is covered in fur


I honestly can't think of any dragons with fur. It's not a bash at the game, but just something that occured to me as well about her "Water Dragon" heritage.
Asian furred dragons... they're a thing and have been part of chinese mythology for millenia.

Also, it's clear she's partly earth dragon (her body shape and horns) and water dragon (her color, and also visual similarity to other water dragons in the museum in Perusa. Keep in mind Merga is bio-engineered, so she's gonna look different). Plus, there's an item in the game which gives her water elemental damage.

Also, those things on Lilac's "ears" are actually a form of hearing aid, Lilac is partly deaf because of her hybrid nature. Under them her ears are fin-like, like Merga's.
Last edited by StrikerTheHedgefox; Oct 12, 2022 @ 8:25am
cupcom5 Oct 12, 2022 @ 8:52am 
Originally posted by StrikerTheHedgefox:
Originally posted by cupcom5:


I honestly can't think of any dragons with fur. It's not a bash at the game, but just something that occured to me as well about her "Water Dragon" heritage.
Asian furred dragons... they're a thing and have been part of chinese mythology for millenia.

Also, it's clear she's partly earth dragon (her body shape and horns) and water dragon (her color, and also visual similarity to other water dragons in the museum in Perusa. Keep in mind Merga is bio-engineered, so she's gonna look different). Plus, there's an item in the game which gives her water elemental damage.

Also, those things on Lilac's "ears" are actually a form of hearing aid, Lilac is partly deaf because of her hybrid nature. Under them her ears are fin-like, like Merga's.

i looked up asian furred water dragons, you're right on that, I shoulud've known from the old Mulan cartoon and chinese festivals but it looks like they still have scales, Lilac has a full on furry tail with no scales whatsoever. I've been using the elemental damage attack, but it does nothing to boost her breathing abilities underwater, she drowns just like the rest of them

I'm aware of her hearing aids, but I haven't heard much of it in any of the games canonically, just through lore and fan sites.

Being a hybrid water dragon still doesn't explain why she or astral has a black nose, Even Cordelia has a dragon snout and still passes off as Lilac's relative without the black nose.

Bio-engineered or not, Merga looks more like a water dragon than Lilac.

Her design and lack of water abilities (Besides elemental damage) is just questionable
Last edited by cupcom5; Oct 12, 2022 @ 8:59am
Crystal-Hero Oct 12, 2022 @ 9:00am 
Originally posted by StrikerTheHedgefox:
Originally posted by cupcom5:


I honestly can't think of any dragons with fur. It's not a bash at the game, but just something that occured to me as well about her "Water Dragon" heritage.
Asian furred dragons... they're a thing and have been part of chinese mythology for millenia.

Also, it's clear she's partly earth dragon (her body shape and horns) and water dragon (her color, and also visual similarity to other water dragons in the museum in Perusa. Keep in mind Merga is bio-engineered, so she's gonna look different). Plus, there's an item in the game which gives her water elemental damage.

Also, those things on Lilac's "ears" are actually a form of hearing aid, Lilac is partly deaf because of her hybrid nature. Under them her ears are fin-like, like Merga's.

Have they ever stated that Lilac is half Earth Dragon? Cause I only heard Water Dragon in both games. Never once have they referred to her as a earth Dragon
cupcom5 Oct 12, 2022 @ 9:05am 
Originally posted by Crystal-Hero:
Originally posted by StrikerTheHedgefox:
Asian furred dragons... they're a thing and have been part of chinese mythology for millenia.

Also, it's clear she's partly earth dragon (her body shape and horns) and water dragon (her color, and also visual similarity to other water dragons in the museum in Perusa. Keep in mind Merga is bio-engineered, so she's gonna look different). Plus, there's an item in the game which gives her water elemental damage.

Also, those things on Lilac's "ears" are actually a form of hearing aid, Lilac is partly deaf because of her hybrid nature. Under them her ears are fin-like, like Merga's.

Have they ever stated that Lilac is half Earth Dragon? Cause I only heard Water Dragon in both games. Never once have they referred to her as a earth Dragon
Now that you mention it, she never did claim she was half earth dragon.
Blue Thunder Oct 12, 2022 @ 10:07am 
As far as I know and from reading around, knowing that she hatched from an egg, means that her mother was a water dragon, and she also wonders how she looked when you find the wax statues in Parusa, however she has mammal features, like the tail and nose, so her biological father is most likely a mammal.

It is verylikely that her water dragon features and capabilities are greatly diminished because her father is not even a dragon, the example being her needing the hearing aids since she is partially deaf due to genetical defects.
Sunset Margatroid Oct 12, 2022 @ 10:19am 
she is a half water dragon hybrid her other half is unknown as lilac was born with a genetic defect that renders her hard of hearing if not completely deaf. Her earpieces are hearing aids that account for this. as for her water dragon abilitys..well she is only a half water dragon the best she can do is hold her breath longer than other characters underwater
ATalksToSelf Oct 12, 2022 @ 10:20am 
I may be completely off with this but I'm pretty sure Lilac takes longer to run out of air while under water, the meter always seemed to drain faster with the other three. This doesn't make her a better swimmer but it would be weird to have only one of the four playable character with decent swimming controls, so for balance/gamefeel that probably wasn't an option.
Aperson Oct 12, 2022 @ 10:33am 
In the first game Lilac could breathe underwater for longer than the other characters, but I guess they changed that for this game huh?

Also its kind of weird for a character so focused on speed and to be of water element not to be able to swim at similar speeds.
Last edited by Aperson; Oct 12, 2022 @ 10:34am
Gabby  [developer] Oct 12, 2022 @ 9:23pm 
Originally posted by Crystal-Hero:
Originally posted by cupcom5:
I love the game too, and I was just telling someone else about this in the reviews. It would've been a nice touch if her having a higher lung capacity was added since she's not a full blooded water dragon like Merga.

Definitely a Lemur at best, though. I also noticed the actual artwork shows her tail looking more fluffy than scaly.

https://www.giantbomb.com/sash-lilac/3005-32106/

O_o

I did not know she had a tail!! And it is furry.
Name me one dragon that has a furry tail or is covered in fur

Every dragon in the Lunar series, another classic. ;)

Though as you have all noted she is a hybrid, and there are plenty of other species with fur.
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