Indecision (Spoilers)

[Tellah]

I just started Chapter 5 at the point I left off, so spoilers for that (but I'll try and keep everything blacked out).

I don't know if I'm silly, I was over-tired at the time, or if it really is sort of hard to decide what to do in Chapter 5.

I've sort of been playing a fairly 'good' Lorelai up until this point (fed the cat, saved the starfish, didn't antagonize the rude co-worker, etc) and I'm feeling antsy about how to approach Chapter 5. On one hand, especially having played The Cat Lady, I know that doing everything the Queen of Maggots says is a bad thing if you want the happiest ending... but on the other hand I really like Zack and don't want anything to happen to the baby sister either so I actually was actually so indecisive that I quit the game last night even though I wanted to know what happened next.

Not really complaining or anything, just venting/wondering if anyone else felt the same way at this point in the game (or conversely, if people think I'm ridiculous). I really wish there were manual saves for if I wanted to easily get back to this section of the game, though.

[Darkstride]

I just finished the game with the good ending so I can provide you with some reassurance if you need it. I don't want to give any spoilers unless you want them.

[Tellah]

I 100% don't mind spoilers- I just try to be considerate to people who do. I mean, I might not have even met the other requirements for the good ending anyway, but it would be nice to know if I should be driving Al back to drink or if I should risk it and ignore what the Queen of Maggots wanted me to do.

[Darkstride]

Originally posted by Tellah:

I 100% don't mind spoilers- I just try to be considerate to people who do. I mean, I might not have even met the other requirements for the good ending anyway, but it would be nice to know if I should be driving Al back to drink or if I should risk it and ignore what the Queen of Maggots wanted me to do.

SPOILERS, obviously. I would hope that anyone reading this far in would be wary.

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You can save Al and stop his drinking. It pisses off the Queen of Maggots, but you'll still be able to find a way to save yourself. You'll also be given an opportunity to save another character from death, the choice is relatively obvious. There are some character deaths that are unavoidable (to address the original post), but if you pay attention and make the right choices you can undo what has been done to them.

I can be more specific if you like, but that's the general idea. You can be "good" without having the game end prematurely and without ruining anything. You just have to figure out how to save yourself and everyone else afterward. I didn't use a guide or anything to get the good ending, I just paid attention to the dialogue and made logical choices and it all worked out. There are some hints in conversations that will lead you.

I did have one thing that I forgot to do before I "finished" the game but it hadn't saved so I quit and went back. I got an achievement for it, and it very clearly made a story difference, but I don't know the exact requirements for the best ending.

[melancholymischief]

**spoiler warning**




Darkstride is correct. You don’t have to listen to the queen of maggots and drive him back to drinking to save them. What you do towards the end can reverse that. I made a couple mistakes and got both achievements (one for making him not drink and also the one to make him drink) which was odd but I got the golden ending anyway. Guide not necessary. Go with your gut. A “good character” (not gonna spoil that) shows up and that gave me a lot more confidence that I was doing the right thing by not listening to her. That level is so good, though, because you’re supposed to feel conflicted, ya know? It’s a heavy chapter and I really liked it for that.

[arj0n]

Originally posted by Darkstride:

You can save Al and stop his drinking. It pisses off the Queen of Maggots, but you'll still be able to find a way to save yourself. You'll also be given an opportunity to save another character from death, the choice is relatively obvious. There are some character deaths that are unavoidable (to address the original post), but if you pay attention and make the right choices you can undo what has been done to them.

Correctly summarized.

[Nix/Jev/Wei]

Ugh, failed to get the golden ending. I'll need a working lighter, I suspect?

[arj0n]

Originally posted by Nix/Jev/Wei:

Ugh, failed to get the golden ending. I'll need a working lighter, I suspect?

Yep.

[Tellah]

...on the one hand I'm relieved that my gut instinct was right in the way to go about Chapter 5, it seems. On the other hand, now I'm really nervous about whether I made the right choices up to this point and what choices to make in the future.

...at least it sounds more forgiving than Downfall, where you needed to tick like... every box perfectly for the Golden Ending.

[Salty Cat Lady]

Hey this is off this topic, but i cant figure out the trains puzzle. I put the train on there and it didnt do anything i dont know how to get the key is it the coffins? i placed the intems on them.

[Forsaken]

Originally posted by Salty23yourmom:

Hey this is off this topic, but i cant figure out the trains puzzle. I put the train on there and it didnt do anything i dont know how to get the key is it the coffins? i placed the intems on them.

Did you also place the rose that you pick up with the first train wagon on the correct coffin? Once you place all items on the coffins correctly you'll trigger an event in the same scene as the graveyard which automatically gives you the key.

[Tellah]

...I may have goofed and done a dumb thing. Chapter 6- I fed the crow until he popped.

[Tellah]

Alright, anyone who has finished the game and not done an incredibly silly thing in Chapter 6 ...aka feeding the crow three times...
Is (Spoiler for the last chapter/last controllable section) ...do you actually get to wake up Jimmy and there's not just a corpse? ...because I'd have to play the whole game through again to know the answer and I'd kinda like to know if the alternate conclusion is more satisfying.

I still got the good ending even with that snafu, btw.

[Zaltys]

Originally posted by Tellah:

...do you actually get to wake up Jimmy and there's not just a corpse?

Yes. And there's quite a bit of extra dialogue for it.

[Tellah]

Thank you for answering me- now I know I'll re-play sooner rather than later (I was planning on achievement hunting anyway). I can't -believe- I did such a silly thing that kinda... tainted having a Good Ending run (...and that it didn't screw up getting the Good Ending)

[Priest of Syrinx]

Judging by achievement statistics Golden Ending is the easiest to get (most people have it, including myself). My next playthrough will be a 'monster playthrough' (avoid any karma gain, reject Zack at every opportunity, be awful to Zoe, follow Queen's orders to the letter) and see where this gets me.