Gear Upgrade Question

[D.A.R.K.]

So... I notice that, to upgrade a gear we need to find more of the same and it'll level up, but how about gears from quests, do we have a chance to upgrade even further? I got the Blacksmith's Armor, it gives +9 Armor, +9 Health, and +9 Attack, is it possible to level up this armor?

[EolSunder]

from what i've seen and i could be wrong, you can upgrade those unique armors only from doing similar quests. For example opening regular chests, buying 50 gold chests, doing some basic quests will upgrade the general list of gear on the bottom tier, most of which is useless or bad, a few is good. Getting those higher level quest gear you can only upgrade by doing simliar tasks, such as using keys to open the gold chests, you can upgrade more unique gold chest items. Top tier items that you get in certain ways you can only upgrade doing top tier tasks. or by multiple playthroughs.

Sadly most of the best gear will always be at lower levels simply because you aren't going to play through the game that many times. Your usually going to be using the 3 holy ultimate items if you gather them up or some lower level gear that you happen to get lucky to raise to high levels. 95% of the gear you find, even better items you won't ever use.

Oh these better level 20 items from gold chests are nice, except my basic gear which can easily raise higher due to just buying 50 gold chests is 3x as good so i'll never use any gold chest items. Oh this better item has 3-4 stats at a nice level 25 across the board, but my basic armor and helmet give me +100 attack value etc, best offense is the best defense so i don't need something with 25 attack value and 25 health, and so on.

Unless you plan on playing through the game many many times and grinding, which its just better to play cat quest 2, and 3 instead for more fun, your going to really just be using the basic gear you are lucky enough to upgrade higher at the time.

HINT. NEVER NEVER BUY THE 5000 gold chest in the store, it's a waste of time. Always buy 100 of the 50 gold chests instead and raise up your gear that way. Because of the amount of different gear, spending 5000 on a chest will probably just get you a sucky mid level item that you won't ever ever use, and you flushed 5000 gold down the drain.

[kaki_gamet]

@OP - the short answer is by doing New Game + multiple times. In about 5~6 times you will be done with most sets, assuming you clear every dungeon and quest every time. This way you can sink Gold in magics and spare some for the next playthrough or even use it at blacksmith if willing.

If you focus on few magics only you may spare one or two playthrough thanks to it, even without to farm Gold. But if you want to max every set then there is no need to spend Gold at blacksmith at all, you will max those sets naturally.

Chests at blacksmith drop a random item but only in between those you are still missing, until you maxed all of those kind (basic rank for 50 Gold and a bit better ones for 5000 Gold). For more rare equipment, to replay it is a must and Mew Game brings one more powerful set, that combined with the FCW (Faith, Courage, Willpower) from regular play will speed up extra runs.

For details on those that cannot be found at blacksmith here my mini guide ; )

PS: about CQ2, and most likely even CQ3, I'm still in doubt if there is less or more grind about equipment. In CQ2 they cap at Lv.999, but there is Mew Game + this time, that I think it is the real place where to grind, and by manually raising the difficult level it should drop equipment with much higher level than default, making the process much faster, even if only HALF of the levels is passed over : /

Something like you get a weapon at Lv.10 and in a new Mew Game + (or even New Game + ) you get it again at Lv.10, your final weapon will be at Lv.15 -.-

Unfortunately I have not enough time to play it at the moment, so I cannot say it for sure yet, the feeling is that it may be less grind, and hopefully will be the same on CQ3.

[EolSunder]

99% of players aren't going to play through the game multiple times it just isn't that engrossing. beat the game once, thats basically the game. So ignore the advice of new game plus stuff, chances are you might play once, try a new game plus and realize it isn't even fun because you get to keep all your stuff to replay the new game and there isn't any challenge to it and move on to cats quest 2.

So unless you really want to grind and play the game endless hours, your basic gear other than the ultimate will be vastly better than any of the more unique gear. Sure, those rarer gears that have 25% across the board in stats look nice and will be great if you really play and grind forever, but your 300 attack unique item will not be beat, and your 100+ attack helms and armor are plenty to kill everything, who needs more health or magic when you can yawn and chop chop even the physical resist enemies, not even including you'll forget about magic all except healing and attack boost, which goes along great with your chop chop technique hehe.

[D.A.R.K.]

Originally posted by EolSunder:

99% of players aren't going to play through the game multiple times it just isn't that engrossing. beat the game once, thats basically the game. So ignore the advice of new game plus stuff, chances are you might play once, try a new game plus and realize it isn't even fun because you get to keep all your stuff to replay the new game and there isn't any challenge to it and move on to cats quest 2.

So unless you really want to grind and play the game endless hours, your basic gear other than the ultimate will be vastly better than any of the more unique gear. Sure, those rarer gears that have 25% across the board in stats look nice and will be great if you really play and grind forever, but your 300 attack unique item will not be beat, and your 100+ attack helms and armor are plenty to kill everything, who needs more health or magic when you can yawn and chop chop even the physical resist enemies, not even including you'll forget about magic all except healing and attack boost, which goes along great with your chop chop technique hehe.

I want to do 100% I won't repeat the game play multiple times like an idiot unless the game requires me to do in order to do the 100%

[kaki_gamet]

@EolSunder - actually one will forget of Healpaw before to even finish their first playthrough.

@Dark - what do you mean by 100%?
All achievements? Then you need to play Mew Game few times.
All maxed equipment? Then you need to do multiple New Game + and multiple Mew Game.

[D.A.R.K.]

Originally posted by kaki_gamet:

@EolSunder - actually one will forget of Healpaw before to even finish their first playthrough.

@Dark - what do you mean by 100%?
All achievements? Then you need to play Mew Game few times.
All maxed equipment? Then you need to do multiple New Game + and multiple Mew Game.

By 100% I mean:

Doing all Achievements.
Clearing all caves/dungeons/temples.
Completing all side quests.
Completing the main quest.
Max my character to level 99.
Max all my spells to level 10.
Max all items to level 99.

Leveling up is easy, there are some enemies at the middle of the map, I'm 68 right now, but they give more than 2500xp per kill, I can kill like 2 or 3 and level up pretty fast.

Leveling up spells and armor is pretty easy because there are enemies that gives 99 coins when you kill and there are side quests that gives a lot of gold, so it seems I just need to buy upgrade all spells, and then buy chests to get copies.

The thing that I don't know yet are the achievements that ends with: "modifier", I still have no idea what those modifiers are, probably I'll learn once I beat the game and New Game+ is available, probably a challenge thing by the description of the achievements.

[kaki_gamet]

Then there is a big bad news for you, character doesn't "max" at Lv.99 but at Lv.999 : /
Go back to comment #2 and follow the link, you will get a better idea at what awaits you.

You will need both New Game + and Mew Game, or maybe you are still in time to give up maxing everything and grab achievements only.

[D.A.R.K.]

Originally posted by kaki_gamet:

Then there is a big bad news for you, character doesn't "max" at Lv.99 but at Lv.999 : /
Go back to comment #2 and follow the link, you will get a better idea at what awaits you.

You will need both New Game + and Mew Game, or maybe you are still in time to give up maxing everything and grab achievements only.

Wait, in Cat Quest the character's max level is 999? This is a bit odd, I'm level 88 now, looking for a place farm to reach level 99, currently I'm killing those flying skull mobs in the middle of the map that gives around 2500 per globe, per kill, which is around 10k XP, I went from 60 to 80 pretty fast there, I don't know if there's a better place... With that said, reaching 999 seems unreal, unless, in New Game +, the enemies give like 100 times more XP or something.

[kaki_gamet]

That is the best place for farming XP, but when will reach three digits even them won't help too much, and no, New Game + is exactly the same as your current run. You just carry over levels, equipment, maybe Gold (if I remember it correctly), but no magics, those will reset.

From Mew Game you will get A new piece of equipment, more XP and more Gold, and if you want to exploit the save system then you may reach Lv.999 either. I didn't but reached Lv.350+ anyway. In CQ2 it should be more doable but as I stated before I'm still checking it.

[D.A.R.K.]

Originally posted by kaki_gamet:

That is the best place for farming XP, but when will reach three digits even them won't help too much, and no, New Game + is exactly the same as your current run. You just carry over levels, equipment, maybe Gold (if I remember it correctly), but no magics, those will reset.

From Mew Game you will get A new piece of equipment, more XP and more Gold, and if you want to exploit the save system then you may reach Lv.999 either. I didn't but reached Lv.350+ anyway. In CQ2 it should be more doable but as I stated before I'm still checking it.

Level 999 is unreasonable, I'm going to just do the level 99 achievement and that's it.

I beat the game, reached level 99, and unlocked Mew Game... This is BS, they made a way that we NEED to beat the game 3 times to have everything. In order to get the other achievements, you need to beat the game with the modifiers on, but you can't beat with Level One and Naked Cat at the same time, the same way you can't do The Old Master and Furry Armored achievements at the same time.

This means that we beat the game once to unlock Mew Game. We beat the game a second time with Level One, Nine Lives, and Stronger Enemies enable so you can do those 3 Achievements (and get The Old Master at the end), and then beat the game a third time with Furry Armored and Naked Cat enable so we can get those last ones.

They made a system that is REQUIRED to beat the game three times in order to do all achievements, which is BS in my opinion, this is NOT how you implement replayability in your game, damn.

[kaki_gamet]

Still a bit wrong. With three modifiers you don't get all items, just the third one. You still need to play it with two and one modifiers in order to get the other two items : P

You are getting close to its end anyway, a little bit more : )

[D.A.R.K.]

Originally posted by kaki_gamet:

Still a bit wrong. With three modifiers you don't get all items, just the third one. You still need to play it with two and one modifiers in order to get the other two items : P

You are getting close to its end anyway, a little bit more : )

So, the developers are dumb to not understand 3 > 2 > 1... Playing with 1 should give 1 part. Playing with 2 should give 2 parts. Playing with 3 should give all 3 parts. Not only we have to waste time by repeating the game play, but we have to repeat THE SAME THING as before to make sure we'll get the items... This is stupid.

Maybe I don't get all achievements right now, I think I'll play Cat Quest II first, then the Cat Quest III, and then I'll return to do the last achievements from each game.

[kaki_gamet]

But you went to reward them your money anyway, good good, see you there (CQ2) ; )

[D.A.R.K.]

Originally posted by kaki_gamet:

But you went to reward them your money anyway, good good, see you there (CQ2) ; )

I already started a CQ2 run, checked the achievements and it seems there's none requiring to play the game multiple times, which is already good. I didn't like the weapon upgrade system, it is more expensive than the CQ1 since you can only increase weapon progression one by one instead of a balanced way as CQ1.

[kaki_gamet]

Yes, achievements wise there is no need to play it more than once, but to 100% it will take again some time. About Gold use it on magics first, and keep all the rest for really later. From what I can see so far it is possible to remain with a single last item to level up and Gold would be the way to speed it up (something like sinking millions into it).

Good you spotted the weak point of the new system : )