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Knight Jun 22, 2018 @ 9:51pm
Women aren't oppressed.
Did you guys really need to insert that feminist vitriol in the game?
As one user put it better than I could:

"The [narrative] foul is reinforced by the fact that Akara patiently argues all her points, but here, suddenly, no arguments are given, only a derogative, ad-hominem attack... And that is a method fanatics often use when they feel their arguments are lacking."

EDIT: After reading a few users posts, a lawyer lady comes in wearing a burkah, proving islamic oppression still continues on. I admit I was wrong.
Last edited by Knight; Jul 6, 2018 @ 2:07pm
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Fellow Traveler Jun 23, 2018 @ 1:03am 
Game is fine.
Ryuu Jun 23, 2018 @ 1:27am 
You sure?
Glad I am not the only one who thought this was weirdly out of place.
FriKitty Jun 24, 2018 @ 5:48pm 
I love how this many people is triggered about this obvious bait.

Was it so difficult to say no? Was it so difficult to accept new information about this future that you have no idea about, since you've only been to two buildings at that point?

You guys are too funny.
Knight Jun 24, 2018 @ 11:39pm 
Originally posted by FriKitty:
I love how this many people is triggered about this obvious bait.

Was it so difficult to say no? Was it so difficult to accept new information about this future that you have no idea about, since you've only been to two buildings at that point?

You guys are too funny.

"bait"

riiiiight... the devs were trolling... they werent legit dumb enough to believe it..

also, the world has almost all high corporate jobs done notably by females, youd need to be kinda ignrant to the story to think they're oppressed in this universe.

Also they left that third option in for a reason... so yeah..
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FriKitty Jun 25, 2018 @ 8:22am 
HAHAHAH wait, you think that women aren't opressed irl. Lmao.

It's a bait, the dev said it on Twitter, but not because he doesn't believe women are opressed, but because he knew you guys were just like that even on fictional worlds.

Also, you really believe that just because there are women with good jobs they aren't opressed as a group in any way, do you? Besides, I remind you that we get to know like 10 people of this fictional world. If a character says that some women are still opressed and you refuse to believe it, I just have to laugh.
Knight Jun 25, 2018 @ 2:39pm 
Man I'm not going to even bother wasting my time with you if you legit think women are being oppressed in this country, let alone the fictional world where our only example of it is the 10 people who are women who only occupy the highest branches of corporations.

Proof the dev put it on twitter?

A fictional character claiming anything doesn't mean anything if we don't see it in action. The devs very clearly intended to break the narrative to mock people who weren't leftist feminists.
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FriKitty Jun 25, 2018 @ 6:34pm 
In this country, assuming I'm on the same as you, and assuming that because we're near equality, everything's sorted out. Hahah.

In this fictional world we know like 10 people. Maybe these 10 people have high status. Maybe they had luck. Maybe there are still places and situations where oppression still exists. It may be even better than the present! Which doesn't mean sexism is entirely erased.

A fictional character like Akara may know something, if you played the game you'll know what I'm talking about lol

Here you go: https://twitter.com/jordidepaco/status/983980681155043328

He's basically saying what I told you so I guess it'll be useless but hey. It's worth a try
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Knight Jun 25, 2018 @ 9:23pm 
Originally posted by FriKitty:
In this country, assuming I'm on the same as you, and assuming that because we're near equality, everything's sorted out. Hahah.

In this fictional world we know like 10 people. Maybe these 10 people have high status. Maybe they had luck. Maybe there are still places and situations where oppression still exists. It may be even better than the present! Which doesn't mean sexism is entirely erased.

A fictional character like Akara may know something, if you played the game you'll know what I'm talking about lol

Here you go: https://twitter.com/jordidepaco/status/983980681155043328

He's basically saying what I told you so I guess it'll be useless but hey. It's worth a try

OK, so we get that. At least we can agree the only places where women are oppressed is ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ backwards countries; but if we're dealing with a futuristic universe where, let's say they still exist, it's unlikely they'd come into permanant or large scale contact with these corporation manufacturing fake organs, thus making it unlikely that she was talking much about this situation.

Now granted about that argument "small sample size."

OK, what if she said "Should magic be allowed?"

There's an awkward situation isn't it? Because she's saying it like it's true, and we have yet to actually meet a magical character (I will concede that one smuggler MAY have had some magical ♥♥♥♥ going on... i guess argue under the assumption that the sample size is parallel to the discussion, we have seen no example of it, on the contrary it seems completely out of the culture, we see the opposite everywhere, yet we are expected to simply accept it.)


I guess I should ask, would you be condescendingly mocking everyone for being flabbergasted that Akara, who should obviously know most of the world, asks you to allow magic? Would you be saying "sure you didn't see it, but how laughable that you'd be bewildered the devs made a fictional universe with magic!" "Devs baited and trolled you lmao!"


Now regarding that tweet, the dev later apologized for it because he saw that he mischaracterized people.


I think it's clear he wasn't ridiculing people for zealot like politics, I think he was ridiculing for different politics. It's extremely clear that post was placed up as a real world reference. Strictly speaking it should have been an obvious case of allegory.
Women are oppressed in a lot of places... Japan being one of them. There is a seperate female police force and women aren't allowed the same kind of upward mobility, at least in that field. In the United States, however, feminists complain they're oppressed even when they have more privilege and power than any group of women in human history. Also, men generally don't act like complete psychos because someone will punch them.
Last edited by Communist Fish Tank; Jun 25, 2018 @ 9:29pm
FriKitty Jun 26, 2018 @ 11:49am 
"What if she said" but she didn't. Why do you try to persuade me with that xD

You guys took the bait. You won't believe women are opressed, nor nowadays, nor in a fictional world you didn't create, ever. I lack the power to change wrong beliefs.

Anyway let's continue with our lives
Last edited by FriKitty; Jun 26, 2018 @ 11:53am
Knight Jun 26, 2018 @ 11:50am 
Originally posted by FriKitty:
"What if she said" but she didn't. Why do you try to persuade me with that xD

You guys took the bait. You won't believe women are opressed, nor nowadays, nor in a fictional world you didn't create, ever. So that's how it is, we can continue our lives


If you're not willing to engage because my point proved you wrong, I understand. Misframing an argument and ignoring important points are all part of zealotry handbook.

Best of luck with finding other ways to stroke that ego of yours.

FriKitty Jun 26, 2018 @ 11:53am 
Woops I was editing that

You didn't prove me wrong, you tired me lmao
Knight Jun 26, 2018 @ 11:55am 
Originally posted by FriKitty:
Woops I was editing that

You didn't prove me wrong, you tired me lmao
I understand. It's very tiring typing. Personally I'm exhausted typing this and yet I persist.
FriKitty Jun 26, 2018 @ 11:59am 
Like I have nothing to do except writing long posts on a non-native language to try to convince a person that won't move an inch his beliefs, because he just will persist on thinking that women aren't opressed in any way, that feminism is useless and that a single comment about that on a videogame can ruin his experience as the special snowflake he is.

Tú flipas.

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