Most money in one day?

[Geeky Meerkat]

So I'm curious, I know that the nerd's quest makes you need to have $20 by the end of the day, but if you aren't specifically doing that quest and just want to make as much money as you can in one day what's the optimal strategy? Yes I know at the end of the day the most you take home is $10, but that's not the point of this question.

So to be clear, I don't consider any money you take with you to school to be money you "made" so if you take $3 to school, and you finish the day with $13, you only made $10.

So here is my attempt to make as much money as I can in one day:

1. Start the day with the lunch pass and the flower. No money from piggy bank.
   
2. Sell lunch pass to Monty for $3 and invest $1 in a yoyo.
   
3. Wait twice and then have Nugget send you to the Principal's office. Current profit: $2.50
   
4. Get the pills and head to class, selling (not giving) a pill to the teacher for a dollar.
   
5. Sell rest of pills to Monty for $4. Be tempted to steal money from Monty's cubby but don't actually take it.
   
6. Give Jerome the Yo-Yo and have him distract the teacher so you can get outside with the pass.
   
7. Go to the closet and take the money from the box. Head out and get sent to lunch. Current profit: $12.50
   
8. Sell Monty the hall pass for $5, and then just wait until recess. Current profit: $18.50
   
9. Wait until show and tell, and show off the flower you brought. Total profit: $19.75

Some thoughts though. I know there is a way to reduce the cost of the candy bar from the lunch lady but even then will this increase profits? Even if she gives it to you for free, you only make $5 off of it by selling it to Monty. I'm not entirely sure how to get her to reduce the price though, so I've not been able to test myself.

Edit 1: With a slight change to this strategy, you can bring 50 cents with you and the keymold. Give the key mold to Monty as your very first action (this will use up one of the apples you would have just waited during anyway), and you can get the key.

Still looking into the chocolate though. I have an idea.

Edit 2: Okay so if you go for the chocolate you got two options.

Option one is to not buy the yoyo (saving you $1). You can then do things as before until you get to Morning. Once in the class room you can rob morty's cubby (because the teacher will be high on the pill you sold her). Then going to the bathroom the normal way (normal pass) gets the janitor to reduce the chocolate bar to only 5 cents in price if you pick the right options. You can then sell it for $5, but now you don't have the cool hall pass to sell and you never looted the box with the $5. So this option is a loss as you only make $17.70 by the end of the day.

Option two is to still go get the yoyo, and use that to get the special hall pass. You then go to the bathroom instead of the closet to reduce the cost of the chocolate bar. You also don't Rob Monty because there isn't enough time to do that. So you finish the day the same way as then orginal instructions above but with a nickle less.

So unless I'm missing something you can do during the periods you are just waiting that you could be doing stuff that actually nets you money, $19.75 is the most you can make in one day (or $19.50 if you are having Monty make the key).

Edit 3: Just because I love math, if you want to get the key without having to take the lunch pass or the flower there are a couple of considerations. First you'll need something for show and tell. There are some things you can pick up quickly during periods you would otherwise just be waiting that work so you loose out on 25 cents there. Second as the lunch pass is worth $3 you'll need to bring that along as well. So instead of bringing 50 cents, you'll need a total of $3.75 but as that's over $3, you'll need to actually bring twice that so after you get robbed by the bully you'll be on target. This puts you at needing to bring exactly $7.50 and the key mold to school that day.

[yiddasedea]

You could also do montys quest but just say you dont have enough money by the end of the day.

[Geeky Meerkat]

The only thing doing Monty's quest does for you is unlocking the ability to get the key while also taking up a single action. So doing Monty's Quest in an effort to make as much money in one day is actually counter productive.

[CharType]

I found a way to get $20.20. The way you do this is you don't sell the pills to Monty, instead you get both the five dollar bill and the discount on the chocolate. Then during lunch you get the chocolate and sell all you can, and the rest is the same. Plus with this method you can bring the pills to show and tell. So using this method you can get the key from Monty with $3.00 and without any other items besides the mold.

[Geeky Meerkat]

One might say you have 20/20 vision noticing that path :D

[Mackan]

i found a way to get 22.95
sell lunch pass and buy yo yo sell 2 apples then talk to nugget and get sent to the principals office
get the pills then sell to the teacher give yo yo to jerome and visit the janitor in the bathroom and get the chocolate cheaper and then go to the box in the janitors closet and grab the 5 dollars
go to the lunch lady and buy the chocolate for 0.05 then sell the chocolate and the hall pass to monty then talk to cindy and agree to put gum in lillys hair and then sell your apple
go to lilly at reccess and put the gum in her hair then go to cindy and recieve money then sell all your apples
you could maybe get more money but this is the most i was able to get

[ShadowAndrey]

I was able to get $26.45. First, you need to take a lunch pass and any other item to show it to show and tell, and $10.
We sell a pass for lunch to Monty, we approach Cindy and get chewing gum from her, we report it to Lily and choose the second option so that she gives a donut. Next, we approach Jerome, get a pass, go to the toilet and get a discount on chocolate from the cleaner, after which we go to the pantry and pick up $5. At the lunch break, we buy a chocolate bar at a discount, then we sell it, a donut and a pass to jerome. Well, we eat the remaining 6 apples.

[Mackan]

the money you brought with you to school doesnt count

[Geeky Meerkat]

Originally posted by ShadowAndrey:

I was able to get $26.45. First, you need to take a lunch pass and any other item to show it to show and tell, and $10.

As Mackan points out the $10 starting doesn't count. So if you ended the day at $26.45, then you only made $16.45 that day. But I don't have the game loaded up right now to test out your path to see if you ended at $26.45 or if you ended at $36.45 (meaning you really did find a route that made you $26.45)

[Mackan]

i tried the route, i got $21.70

[Mackan]

thats strange, i did everything on your route and i got an apples worth more

[Mackan]

Incorrect geeky since you only get 5 dollars instead of 10 because buggs takes half when you start, so he would have made $21.45

[Mackan]

ooh now i know why i got $0.25 cents more, giving buggs half of the money spends an apple

[Geeky Meerkat]

Originally posted by Mackan:

Incorrect geeky since you only get 5 dollars instead of 10 because buggs takes half when you start, so he would have made $21.45

It doesn't matter if Buggs takes half your starting money. The rules are simply that if you take an amount of money to school you take that off your total.

Think of it this way, if you go to school with $10 then Buggs will take half, bringing you down to $5. Now if you then do a number of things so you end the day at EXACTLY $10, would you say you made $5 or that you made $0?

Here's the real kicker though, let's say the things you did to end the day at exactly $10 were all things you could do regardless of if even brought money to the school. This means that you could have instead brought NO money to the school and ACTUALLY made that $5.

You can not ignore operational expenses when it comes to counting how much money you make. Buggs taking money from you is an expense that happens and before you can say you've "made" money you'll have to earn enough to cover that operational expense.

With your math you could claim that if you took $10 to school, and Buggs took you down to $5, that if you ended the day with $6 you would have made $1. But that's just silly, because you haven't made $1. You lost $4.

[Mackan]

yeah, if you took $10 to school and buggs took 5 and i end the day with 6 i would have made $1 that day, you are right tho about losing the 4 dollars but the $10 i had before is from another day and therefore doesnt count as money i have made/lost on this day

[Geeky Meerkat]

No you wouldn't have made $1 that day, you would have lost $4.

If you owned a business and rent was $5000 a month for the location of your business and at the end of the month you were $1000 short of paying rent, you wouldn't say you made $4000. You are now in debt $1000.

Again, as stated at the very start of this challenge, you don't get to count ANY of the money you bring with you to school. It doesn't matter if you spend it on a yoyo or give a bunch of it to bugs, if you bring $10, then $10 is removed from your total at the end because that's all part of the money you brought to school.

Here is another example for why saying you made money when you are in debt doesn't make any sense. Say you give $1 to your friend. They give that $1 to a second friend. That second friend gives you that SAME $1. Have you just found a money exploit to make infinite money for you and your friends? NO, you just passed around a dollar. You didn't make any money.

Now let's say you give a $1 to your friend, and he gives a DIFFERENT $1 to your other friend, and the other friend gives you a DIFFERENT $1. Does this fix things? Have you made $1? NO, none of you made any money. You just passed around some money and you are all right where you started at.

Last example, you give $1 to your friend. He does whatever he wants to with that dollar. Your second friend suddenly gives you a $1. You have NO idea how he got that $1, but isn't that so nice of him to give you a $1? Sure, but have you made a dollar? NO, you are still have the exact same amount of money you had at the start.