Only half the game?

[Kimchi Tea]

According to a commenter here, apparently this isn't the complete game. This isn't addressed on the store page at all, which is pretty misleading. So what exactly is included, when will the rest of the game come out, and what is it expected to cost?

[F'lessan]

also how many hours these 27 GB of space include? $30 for half a game? why isn't it mentioned on store page?

[Kimchi Tea]

27 gigs of space probably has more to do with poor optimization of game assets than actual amount of content. Not a big deal for me, but a bigger concern for people with slow internet connections and/or data limits.

[Reisaz]

Yes, KW is the first half of the story. The second half is expected next year for PS Vita.

[WillowG]

This is just the first game. There is a sequel, basically the second season.

[purple&green2023]

I definitely agree that this need to explained in the store page that this game only covers the first half of the game.

Not everyone knows this, hell even the people who had ordered the game when it was released in Vita didn't know this. I know you guys did inform this before when you guys were promoting the game before it's release but I think this should be clearer. I mean I am already envisioning the negitive reviews this can bring.


On the side note about the Data storage requirements being 27 GB. I personally can handle taking a whole day just to download this but that RAM requirement being 8GB recommended and 3GB minimum makes me want to cry. My laptop is so old and It's not like I can just go and but a new one...

[C4RNIVOR3]

Yeah Kyoto Winds is the localized port of the Vita version, which was two parts. The PS4 version is the complete game, but unfortunately the english version was already in the works by the time the PS4 version came out, so that's why we get the two parts instead.

It's kind of annoying the game is split up in this manner, but I'm assuming it's due to the fact we get double the routes as the original game. Doesn't make it any less misleading however. I've already suggested to friends interested in getting into Hakuoki through Kyoto Winds to wait until both versions release and are on sale.

[Nierty]

I really understand you when I saw that the game was going to launch for vita and it would be the first game only in half I did not think it was cool either.
But there are more things than I had in the first game, there are more scenes and events for the classic characters, and we have six more routes.
Also English is simpler, I'm not English speaker, the PSP version had some unusual words for me.

So I believe even the game being split is still worth it for that reason.

But I fully agree with you that it should be clarified that when I discovered this still in the Vita version It was very hard to be sure.

There is a channel on youtube that made videos of the Vita game she could answer that kind of thing would be better to clarify like that.

[Impracticalmagic]

I've played Kyoto Winds on the Vita, and for the most part the extra content does make up for the fact that they split the game (twice as many routes).

Here are the downsides (just my opinion, ofc):

- in the complete game (for example, the PS3 Stories of the Shinsengumi), the "common route" was just a few early chapters out of 7-10 chapters (depending on the character route); in Kyoto Winds, the "common route" is most of the game, since they split the game with the Shinsengumi fleeing to Edo [so you play the common route a lot, although there's more variety in it now]

- this split isn't bad for most character routes (and there really are lots more choices), but I found it had a negative effect on Okita's route; it's not too bad, but even my friends who love Souji were disappointed, because Chizuru (the MC) does have to put up with a fair bit of harshness in the early part of Souji's route and by splitting the game you don't get much of the sweeter, character-growth aspects of the route before the game ends (it's not terrible, but it's something that a lot of us noticed)

NOTE: despite the above comment, there are also *extra* scenes with Okita in Kyoto Winds, so that definitely helps

- the translation for the new material is uneven at best (being generous); because Kyoto Winds is essentially a matter of playing the "common route" and making different choices, you're going to see the same odd errors several times. Then again, maybe by splitting the game, the second half will be better edited!

I'm more than happy to answer questions about the game here or on tumblr (impracticaldemon).

~ ImpracticalOni

[Nierty]

Originally posted by Impracticalmagic:

I've played Kyoto Winds on the Vita, and for the most part the extra content does make up for the fact that they split the game (twice as many routes).

Here are the downsides (just my opinion, ofc):

- in the complete game (for example, the PS3 Stories of the Shinsengumi), the "common route" was just a few early chapters out of 7-10 chapters (depending on the character route); in Kyoto Winds, the "common route" is most of the game, since they split the game with the Shinsengumi fleeing to Edo [so you play the common route a lot, although there's more variety in it now]

- this split isn't bad for most character routes (and there really are lots more choices), but I found it had a negative effect on Okita's route; it's not too bad, but even my friends who love Souji were disappointed, because Chizuru (the MC) does have to put up with a fair bit of harshness in the early part of Souji's route and by splitting the game you don't get much of the sweeter, character-growth aspects of the route before the game ends (it's not terrible, but it's something that a lot of us noticed)

NOTE: despite the above comment, there are also *extra* scenes with Okita in Kyoto Winds, so that definitely helps :Saito:

- the translation for the new material is uneven at best (being generous); because Kyoto Winds is essentially a matter of playing the "common route" and making different choices, you're going to see the same odd errors several times. Then again, maybe by splitting the game, the second half will be better edited!

I'm more than happy to answer questions about the game here or on tumblr (impracticaldemon).

~ ImpracticalOni :Saito:

Thanks for the infos <3

[Oni]

I will say also you are more likley to be bothered by the 'half' game if you have played a full Hakuoki before.
As people have mentioned while its half the main story its double the character routes so content wise its fairly even to the full hakuoki (at least the western releases).
I didn't do my research before buying the Vita version, while being a bit supprised at the story ending 'early' I didn't feel there was a lack of content to be enjoied for the money I spent and probably wouldn't have noticed at all had I not previously played the full 3DS version.
For those wanting a full story experience I suggest picking up the 3DS/ PS3 version of the game, watching season 3 of the anime AFTER completeing Kyoto Winds (that will give you Toshizo's Route) or being patient and waiting for either the Vita sequal or PS4 version.
While the translation does have some errors as ImpracticalOni stated, it is by far the most superior game interms of presentation. Lots more finesse to the scenes, nicer animations than previously in the series. I just hope they did a check over for those translation mistakes!

[jrhine87]

I've played the Vita release and yes, it is only half the game. It ends as they go to edo and prior to the "western" portion of the game. However, in my opinion, the extra characters' storylines makes up for the difference. Essentially, it's about the same, as far as what you get to read and do in this game, compared to the full version previously released with less characters. There is some variation to the storylines of the characters we have again here too, which helps. It isn't just a copy and pasted game, if that's what people are concerned about with the repeated first half. It's worth it and while, since I didn't know it at the time, only having the first half was disappointing, I still enjoyed the game and completed it in its entirety for the Vita release.

[皌桃momo]

许愿之后也会在steam上出华之章

[Maverynthia]

I'm wonder if the translation 'errors' are a hold over form the Aksys Games script, which they seem to be using for the common parts. I saw "Sanan" in one of the screen shots and I know that's an error Aksys put in because they got lazy and didn't check that the name was 'Sannan".

I'll wait for the full release of the game and even then on sale as from what I'm reading it's yet another rehash of Hakuoki but with some added routes and if you've played the story once, your not really getting anything more overall storywise.

[Nierty]

If nobody buys the first part now. Obviously the second one will not come to Steam, we pretty much like the Idea Factory works. If that does not seem to be worth the release on Steam, it may take another three years to bring another game.
Although this is difficult I have sentimentso confused about this company. But I'm going to buy the game on the new routes.

[purple&green2023]

Originally posted by taina psilva:

If nobody buys the first part now. Obviously the second one will not come to Steam, we pretty much like the Idea Factory works. If that does not seem to be worth the release on Steam, it may take another three years to bring another game.
Although this is difficult I have sentimentso confused about this company. But I'm going to buy the game on the new routes.

Same here, Based on what I heard, half the story or not there's going to be a lot of content to go through so this will still be worth it.

Besides, Edo Blossoms is in the works so hopefully it wont take too long for it to be released in vita and in steam.