What imbecile did they have design the generation algorithm for dreamer's door dungeons?

[Broso]

I spawn on floor one, a blue chest right next to me. It requires 35 orbs to open.

THIRTY ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ FIVE ORBS.

I have all upgrades related to dreamer's door dungeons and fully explored the floor. I managed to acquire a grand total of EIGHT orbs.

Who in their right mind designs an algorithm that spawns chests you can impossibly open given the simultaneously spawned resources?

That is just S H I T design.

[Louis]

What do you think RANDOM means?

[Broso]

That argument does not hold whatsoever.

Have you ever done a randomly generated puzzle? Would you like for them to be unsolvable?

[Sabishi1985]

Same thing happened to me today. I like randomized dungeons, but randomized shouldn't mean you won't be able to obtain stuff. :-/

[Lemurian1972]

So you missed out on one randomized loot roll that's overpriced anyway. Considering there's dozens more in every level after that with every creature you kill and every other chest you find, I hardly consider this a major flaw, or even bad design. It's just luck of the draw in a chunk of content intended to be run multiple times anyway. A fraction of a percent of unopenable chests in infinite content isn't going to kill anyone's game.

[Louis]

I don't think you have enough orbs to open all chests in a deep dreamer's maze.
You have to choose how to use your orbs.
There are random NPC in a maze. Can you say that it is wrong? I never saw a merchant.

[Broso]

Another thing,

WHY THE ♥♥♥♥ ARE THERE NO CHECKPOINTS

I just lost a Prism Spear on the very first crash I had with this game in ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ 70+ hours. I needed that god ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ damn thing to finish that one stupid recruitment quest and I do not have the other two that you get from other quests anymore. I already had spent hours trying to get this ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ thing to drop and when it finally did in one of these dungeons I get a crash, WTF? I am so mad right now.

[Lemurian1972]

There are no checkpoints because it's an endurance trial. Sorry you crashed but it's not worth getting fashed. Prism spears are a dime a dozen after a certain point, or you can just craft one.

[Broso]

Yeah, you can craft one after you finish the quest that requires it. Which is doubly stupid design. I managed to get another Prism Spear by now, after getting like a dozen other super rare items. It's so silly how rare that ♥♥♥♥ is as a random drop, makes me want to slap whoever coded it that way.

[Louis]

I feel sorry for you. If prism spear is so important, leave the maze after you get it next time.

[Louis]

I just found out that there is no prism spear in Evermore Weapon Workshop. This is very annoying if some people sell it before they take up the quest.

[Broso]

Oh yeah if anyone else encounters this, the two places in which I came across Prism Spears as random enemy drops were the Shivery Shrine door maze and overworld enemies in the dry lands (small ones, not necessarily the fangfish/manticore type bigger ones).

Now that I have done all research tasks I can also confirm that there is no way to actually craft the Prism Spear. I was under the misconception that the final research tasks that are unlocked would make that available but they don't.

Also as a side note, I thought about leaving the dungeon at first. But I also wanted to get it done because apart from the spear and the dream fragment there was nothing of interest in there. And since I did not encounter a single crash in over 70 hours of gametime, I risked it and of course that was when the very first crash had to happen. That's some ♥♥♥♥♥♥ luck right there. Now add to that the fact that the quest the spear is needed for is called "The Goddess of Good Luck" and have a hearty chuckle at the irony.

[Broso]

Another issue with this is the Faraway Forest maze.

The good stuff only appears on the deepest levels with a good frequency. So you spend like 20 minutes getting there everytime. Of course neither is there a way to jump to the good levels, nor are there checkpoints.

Yes yes, "endurance test". More like boring as hell until you get to the good stuff.

So you get to floor 29, then BOOM crash. And you lose not only close to one hour of grindy gametime but also your ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ NERVES.

♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥.

This could be so much better if it were for just a few QoL improvements.

[joxertm22]

Originally posted by Virsalus:

THIRTY ♥♥♥♥ING FIVE ORBS.

Exactly my words.

So either the developer is stupid or incapable of designing it better.
Or is deliberately trolling the audience.

[Viper]

Its a game..CHill the freak out. God knows how you would act if something actually important happened in your life.

[Broso]

It's a game yes, and a good one at that. However, there are some very questionable design choices and this is meant to highlight them in somewhat constructive criticism. Combined with quite some rage and salt, granted. That however is not the main intent of this topic.