What are things that you hate about this game?

[Albi]

And that you truly want changed this can be graphics,sounds,movement,adding/removing weapons/items etc. What is it you hate about this game?

[monke]

Pub players, ♥♥♥♥ players, anyone who isn't AUS

[.r]

Bad optimization.
My fps drops overtime.

[moxeetwo]

I have long list. Over my 700 hours in Holdfast: Nations at War, I've noticed things that I've hated and things that I love.

Starting with hated:
Melee not being rewarded more with XP.
Shooting is 100% RNG in public servers.
The only real skill in public servers is playing cav and being decent at melee. Even those dont take much skill in publics, no one knows how to block so a simple swing of your sabre in the right direction or a straight stab will do.
People just sitting their still reloading instead of engaging in melee.
No tutorial.
Standard melee config is god awful, attacks shouldn't take that long.
Terrible map design.
People sitting in spawn not doing anything.
No AFK kick.
Getting shot while in melee by some fat kid playing rifleman with zero skill sitting in his spawn stuffing Cheetos into his mouth
AGS not listening the suggestions.
AGS not updating the game. In the six months I've owned the game there has only been one content update.
AGS not hiring more staff to work on the game. Would fix this ^^^
Officer pistol being OP
Aux pistol being ♥♥♥♥
Cav players - mad cringe
Poor optimization
FPS cap which can easily be bypassed. F1 > 'set framerate 999'
Melee based on ping
No West Coast or Mountain servers meaning the lowest I've ever had was 74
Melee is based on FPS
Not that much mod support, I would love to see total overhauls like a starwars mod or ww1 or ww2 mod.
Not that much content.
No Grenadier DLC skinpack - please add, i need to spend my money somewhere thats not on pokimane
NA racism and toxicity
The entire AUS community, bunch of ♥♥♥♥♥ innit
Public linebattles
JROD
Emperor
Deez
Nuts

Things I like:
Nothing lol


Im only kidding..... sorta
Graphics look very good
Uniforms on extreme look sexy
Avid modding community
Fun as hell
Ability for comp stuff
Private Linebattles
Melee when not on official servers
Regiments
Maps
Sounds
VOIP
Cav - when im playing it ofc


Overall
its okay but i would like to see a Grenadier DLC. that would make it 10/10

[monke]

Originally posted by moxeetwo:

I have long list. Over my 700 hours in Holdfast: Nations at War, I've noticed things that I've hated and things that I love.

Starting with hated:
Melee not being rewarded more with XP.
Shooting is 100% RNG in public servers.
The only real skill in public servers is playing cav and being decent at melee. Even those dont take much skill in publics, no one knows how to block so a simple swing of your sabre in the right direction or a straight stab will do.
People just sitting their still reloading instead of engaging in melee.
No tutorial.
Standard melee config is god awful, attacks shouldn't take that long.
Terrible map design.
People sitting in spawn not doing anything.
No AFK kick.
Getting shot while in melee by some fat kid playing rifleman with zero skill sitting in his spawn stuffing Cheetos into his mouth
AGS not listening the suggestions.
AGS not updating the game. In the six months I've owned the game there has only been one content update.
AGS not hiring more staff to work on the game. Would fix this ^^^
Officer pistol being OP
Aux pistol being ♥♥♥♥
Cav players - mad cringe
Poor optimization
FPS cap which can easily be bypassed. F1 > 'set framerate 999'
Melee based on ping
No West Coast or Mountain servers meaning the lowest I've ever had was 74
Melee is based on FPS
Not that much mod support, I would love to see total overhauls like a starwars mod or ww1 or ww2 mod.
Not that much content.
No Grenadier DLC skinpack - please add, i need to spend my money somewhere thats not on pokimane
NA racism and toxicity
The entire AUS community, bunch of ♥♥♥♥♥ innit
Public linebattles
JROD
Emperor
Deez
Nuts

Things I like:
Nothing lol


Im only kidding..... sorta
Graphics look very good
Uniforms on extreme look sexy
Avid modding community
Fun as hell
Ability for comp stuff
Private Linebattles
Melee when not on official servers
Regiments
Maps
Sounds
VOIP
Cav - when im playing it ofc


Overall
its okay but i would like to see a Grenadier DLC. that would make it 10/10

mad cuz bad

[Gubernaut]

The Bunny Hopping is ♥♥♥♥♥ in a bucket

[monke]

Originally posted by Gubernaut:

The Bunny Hopping is ♥♥♥♥♥ in a bucket

bunny hopping?

[Gubernaut]

Originally posted by monke:

Originally posted by Gubernaut:

The Bunny Hopping is ♥♥♥♥♥ in a bucket

bunny hopping?

The players that run around jumping constantly

[moxeetwo]

Originally posted by Gubernaut:

Originally posted by monke:

bunny hopping?

The players that run around jumping constantly

That's not a thing. Even if it was, jumping causes your hitbox to become larger meaning its not viable if you're getting shot at.

[ΆΡΗΣ]

i like rifle - when im playing it ofc

[Gubernaut]

Originally posted by moxeetwo:

Originally posted by Gubernaut:

The players that run around jumping constantly

That's not a thing. Even if it was, jumping causes your hitbox to become larger meaning its not viable if you're getting shot at.

Yea right I see it all the time it's awful

[moxeetwo]

Originally posted by Gubernaut:

Originally posted by moxeetwo:

That's not a thing. Even if it was, jumping causes your hitbox to become larger meaning its not viable if you're getting shot at.

Yea right I see it all the time it's awful

I've never seen it once. Even if it does happen (it doesnt,) its not a viable tactic as jumping causes your hitbox to become bigger. Bigger hitbox = larger area for rng to hit you = bad

[Ikthallion]

Bunny hopping happens literally all the time every single game on a public server, it's pointless to pretend otherwise as anyone who wants to could either play or spectate a match and see it for themselves.
It has been said that it causes your hitbox to get bigger, though there's never been any actual proof of this, and it is odd that something that supposedly "makes your hitbox bigger" has been used so often by people attempting to avoid being shot ( often by experienced players ).
Whatever the truth about the hitboxes, people clearly did ( and many still do ) believe it offered them a reduction in the odds of them being shot. Whether that belief had/has a basis in fact is unclear however.

People use various actions to avoid getting shot tbh, moving left and right for example is another fairly common and obvious action.

Whether bunny hopping is the best way to avoid getting shot is actually debatable, especially as a lot of good melee guys used to bunny hop as a matter of course, this lead to people recognizing who they were more easily and specifically targeting them, so in some ways it became counter productive.
I would personally always shoot a bunny hopper first regardless of whether or not I thought it was a harder or easier shot.

It's probably not as prevalent as it once was tbh, but if infinite jumping ( bunny hopping ) is kept in the game I'd prefer the jump mechanics to be at least improved.
For example the strange shifts of momentum mid air, and the speed of the jumper, who although might be slowed down slightly is not slowed down nearly enough.

[Gubernaut]

Maybe the bunny hop helps avoid a shot maybe it doesn't but to me it is just blooddy annoying to look at, and of course every shot I take misses so I blame it on that but if someone asked me my solution would be simply 50% run speed for 2 seconds after you jump would cure that jump spam right quick in my opinion

Other things I wish the game did better would be to make the animations less robotic looking and make the first person view look better and finally beef up the shot sounds

[Ikthallion]

Originally posted by Gubernaut:

Maybe the bunny hop helps avoid a shot maybe it doesn't but to me it is just blooddy annoying to look at, and of course every shot I take misses so I blame it on that but if someone asked me my solution would be simply 50% run speed for 2 seconds after you jump would cure that jump spam right quick in my opinion

Other things I wish the game did better would be to make the animations less robotic looking and make the first person view look better and finally beef up the shot sounds

Yeah I've always found it visually ridiculous myself, from day 1 it kinda reminded me of Monty Python and the Ministry of Silly Walks, it seemed unnecessarily stupid to me for what I thought at the time was a Napoleonic shooter.
Tbh it's probably not the weirdest mechanic in game, and this isn't a game that strives towards realism, but since the title of this thread is
"What are things that you hate about this game?", then your answer is as honest as it gets.

I preferred the old animations before the shoulder arms update, I'd have preferred it if shoulder arms had just been an optional RP action, it just seemed like it brought extra clunkiness to the game.
Yeah the games 1st person view isn't a real 1st person, I often wonder what would happen if it became real together with genuine gun sights, and dare I say it, with 3rd person completely removed.
It would be a different game that's for sure, not only would it affect shooting but melee would become very different, tbh I think there would probably be an enormous storm of complaints if such a change happened though.
I'd be curious what it would be like, but I think I might even hate it myself.

[moxeetwo]

Originally posted by Ikthallion:

Originally posted by Gubernaut:

Maybe the bunny hop helps avoid a shot maybe it doesn't but to me it is just blooddy annoying to look at, and of course every shot I take misses so I blame it on that but if someone asked me my solution would be simply 50% run speed for 2 seconds after you jump would cure that jump spam right quick in my opinion

Other things I wish the game did better would be to make the animations less robotic looking and make the first person view look better and finally beef up the shot sounds

Yeah the games 1st person view isn't a real 1st person, I often wonder what would happen if it became real together with genuine gun sights, and dare I say it, with 3rd person completely removed.
It would be a different game that's for sure, not only would it affect shooting but melee would become very different, tbh I think there would probably be an enormous storm of complaints if such a change happened though.

I would love to see iron sights but that would require them to make shooting less RNG and more skill which they probably wont do. If they get rid of the 3rd person camera melee would have to get completely reworked to make it playable in 1st person because as of now melee in 1st person just isn't very playable.