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Napoleonic grenadiers not having grenades ?
just really wondering why they dont have them historically they did and ive ran into alot of situations where they would have been useful......i dont mind them having very low throw range, low amount per solider or even a chance to explode prematurely but the fact they dont just makes me question it,
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Carolean 25 Nov 2023 @ 11:20pm 
They don't have them because by the Napoleonic period Grenadiers didn't use grenades in open field battles, their use was purely confined to sieges and naval combat.

Mostly because early grenades were dangerous to use and short ranged, so for use in pitched battles had died out by the 1750s or so. In sieges or naval combat they had advantages like rooting enemies out of defended areas and you could more easily take cover after throwing them, so they remained around.
Terakhir diedit oleh Carolean; 25 Nov 2023 @ 11:20pm
MiSFiT77 26 Nov 2023 @ 3:58am 
Yep the old drop the grenade down the hatches routine during ship boarding. I always think if you want to see why Grenadiers didn't have grenades, take a fresh look at Napoleon Total War (where they do). It's completely insane watching 3 ranks of Grenadiers throwing grenades that usually manage to kill a few flowers directly in front of the line. I always imagine the grenadiers throwing them just as some ♥♥♥♥♥ officers shout "the regiment will advance"
Space_Cube 26 Nov 2023 @ 6:47am 
They don't because AGS doesn't want them them too simply put, I believe their models are already in the game and the mechanics aswell. Probably for the best as I believe it would just be trolled.
MiSFiT77 26 Nov 2023 @ 12:11pm 
Diposting pertama kali oleh Space_Cube:
They don't because AGS doesn't want them them too simply put, I believe their models are already in the game and the mechanics aswell. Probably for the best as I believe it would just be trolled.

Nah it's historical. They really didn't have grenades during the Napoleonic era.
Diposting pertama kali oleh Carolean:
They don't have them because by the Napoleonic period Grenadiers didn't use grenades in open field battles, their use was purely confined to sieges and naval combat.

Mostly because early grenades were dangerous to use and short ranged, so for use in pitched battles had died out by the 1750s or so. In sieges or naval combat they had advantages like rooting enemies out of defended areas and you could more easily take cover after throwing them, so they remained around.
and thats what im saying ive ran into a number of siege battles where that 1 cast iron grenade would have been extremely useful. im not asking for them to be useable 24/7 as i know that wouldn't be accurate but at least during siege battles would be great
Diposting pertama kali oleh MiSFiT77:
It's completely insane watching 3 ranks of Grenadiers throwing grenades that usually manage to kill a few flowers directly in front of the line.
The true War of the Roses!
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Diposting pertama kali oleh Carolean:
They don't have them because by the Napoleonic period Grenadiers didn't use grenades in open field battles, their use was purely confined to sieges and naval combat.

Mostly because early grenades were dangerous to use and short ranged, so for use in pitched battles had died out by the 1750s or so. In sieges or naval combat they had advantages like rooting enemies out of defended areas and you could more easily take cover after throwing them, so they remained around.
and thats what im saying ive ran into a number of siege battles where that 1 cast iron grenade would have been extremely useful. im not asking for them to be useable 24/7 as i know that wouldn't be accurate but at least during siege battles would be great
Siege in general is long overdue a rework especially with classes and roles. Would be nice to have more toys to play with in that mode.
MiSFiT77 28 Nov 2023 @ 5:00am 
Siege needs a fix, but it's the same old fix that it's always needed. Sort ticket wasters out. The mode will always be broken until there's a fix for this.
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