Such a powerful setup

[SheepsAholy]

I'm currently playing as warrior and I rushed warm aura to V (+60 hp reg temporary), stone skin, bolster. and I found Northernash (sword, gives cold aura 3, 3 magic reg, 10% spell power, +1 damage protection, 15% magic find) and Gelu's Shield (shield, immune to stune, magic shield iv [decreases damage by 14 points for short time], +4 int, vit and agility with 14% block) .

I just put magic shield IV on not even running block and the mobs hit me for 0. I have enough magic regeneration to cast spells quiet often being a int/str/vit warrior and if they do start hurting I just activate warm aura to heal faster then they could damage.

It's going quite well, if anyone has/had a strong setup feel free to say so :) (also, if you die, you should bury your character, you'll get your choice of one item the character had to be a choice as a starter item)

[mr.randem]

[Warm Aura] is garbage, [Magic Sheild] is garbage. For 4 levels less, using only 4 Obelisks, you achieve the same survivablity with [Rush R1, Vigor, Crit Leech and Stun], with any decent 10-10 or better range weapon, with [Dual Wield] at max rank, beginning at level 12.

No Elite Weapons, no carryover items, all in your own run, guarenteed to work using [Vigilance V].

Why would you want to waste 9 skill points, when you could be killing everying with Vigor and a [P.o.A], and still have 2 levels to raise and gain Rush for the ending boss fight?

[Zalestus]

another one is a str+vit build where you take all the crit rate to rank 5, stun on crit, heal on crit, and vigilience and if you get it right from there with gear and def you pretty much can never die, also dual wield helps too.

[mr.randem]

The only time [Magic Shield] is viable is in conjunction with a caster. Warriors are not casters, and don't even need [Bolster] or [Warcry], despite how retarded the damage set up becomes. Better skills exist.

[mr.randem]

Originally posted by Zalestus:

another one is a str+vit build where you take all the crit rate to rank 5, stun on crit, heal on crit, and vigilience and if you get it right from there with gear and def you pretty much can never die

[Vigilence V] is standard for every class, it's too good to secure a sustainable early game , even with ♥♥♥♥♥♥ droptables. Not every class gets [Crit Stun/Leech] so finding a weapon that freely grants this is pretty much a free skill point, until replaced.

Depends on how much +% LS you have.

[7Soul]

I went with Warm Aura, dual wield and all the crit skills, plus the cold skin and stone skin. I was pretty much unkillable, finished the game with over 20 potions still in my inventory

It was actually kinda boring... but mage is proving to be more challenging and fun

[SheepsAholy]

Remember, everyone has their way they play. sure crit stun + leech can be good but remember. those take crit. I havent done any of the obelisks and level 13. I'm setup around where I dont have to rely on crits to live, its just pure survivability.

Sure, the fights are probably alot longer since I have to kill one by one with autoswings that are hitting currently for 11, 22 on crits (love bolster crits :) ), but I can stand there with 20+ things i'd say and still be fine. warm aura can easily heal me 10-12hp before im getting hit and blocking 14 damage from each target on the screen is just insanity :)

Yeah, I agree with you 7soul, I've just been carrying tons of potions around with me and never need them.

[mr.randem]

You're completely obligated to Iron Skin your way to victory, and I'm completely obligated to judge you for relying on a crutch without utilizing the HP dumping you could be doing with single target damage on any class that can access the skill that for some reason is slipping my mind....weird.

Doesn't nullify either argument or presentation -- But [Vigilance] is busted, end of.

[Cirno]

Crit and lifesteal are pretty good, once you get them you won't ever care about healing or dying. This guy made such a build in this run, he is pretty much invincible in the mid and later game https://www.twitch.tv/videos/159031203?t=01h50m13s

[twista :D]

mage is invincible late mid game, you deal enough dmg so they cant hit you before you kil them

[mr.randem]

Originally posted by Cirno:

Crit and lifesteal are pretty good, once you get them you won't ever care about healing or dying. This guy made such a build in this run, he is pretty much invincible in the mid and later game https://www.twitch.tv/videos/159031203?t=01h50m13s

Btw, This is why [Vigilance, Crit Stun/Leech] is broken.

[SheepsAholy]

Okay, I just wanted to ask people builds they've tried out not have a discussion thats like "no that build sucks, x skill is garbage, you should do this and this and this" but thanks I think we understand now that vigilance with crit leech / stun is op.

Anyways, oh yeah puhelinkone? what spells was you using? fireball I guess? Has anyone tried poison spells or anything like that?

[mr.randem]

No one's gong to stop you from doing it, considering I'm the main contributor of most information we have thus far, and I'm basing my observations on full book-only, 5/5+ MSP runs made soley to vet the power and usefulness of skills.

Some of these skills are literally garbage and redundant to level, because there are items that give them to you for free, if not a wholly stronger version that carries you through the midgame, saving you the time and points.

People like me did the research so you don't have to, but more power to you.

Midgame Mage is Astral Skills, shoutouts to [Astral Decay].

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1080874634

[mr.randem]

Furthermore, discussion of skills can only evolve with the agreed reference point between players on what is good and what is not.

A turtling build works, a decimating build works. The difference is consistency.

You can't figure that out with a Zootopia philosophy, doesn't help with discoverability.

[SheepsAholy]

okay, im just saying. theres no need in attacking people for playing with things @mr.randem . the game has just be out for a day. theres no need to have elitism. I just wanted a frendly chat with others playing along with. Yeah astral decay is pretty nice with the half healthing a target and stunning it as well.

I'm not asking what is the best skills in this thread or the best build. I'm just asking what people are playing with.

[mr.randem]

You're assuming I'm attacking people, when literally it's facts, data and opinion people have had access to since the review copies went out.

Please stop being defensive and grow a spine.

You don't have to agree with me, but you do need to stop being hysterical.

Making mountians out of molehills, and it isn't helping the purpose of your thread.