Does Phaser trigger the dmg bonus from scheme with ranged attack?

[Alex]

Also if you've 2x dmg with 2x received and another weapon with heal on hit, and 2x dmg received; does the dmg received stack, or we good?

[Redlegoguy1]

Not sure on the phaser thing, I tried looking into it a bit and now I’m even more confused. I’m leaning towards no but I’m not certain.
As for the 2x damage, no it does not stack. Your damage take multiplier is always whatever the debuff icon says. There is a 4x debuff, but that’s from 4x damage items, you can’t get it from having two 2x items.

[Alex]

Thanks mate. I'd lean towards no to but curiously the "debuff" that phaser applys counts as a melee attack, and it can triggered with ranged weapons. Be a nice little synergy if it worked :)

[Redlegoguy1]

Alex님이 먼저 게시:

Thanks mate. I'd lean towards no to but curiously the "debuff" that phaser applys counts as a melee attack, and it can triggered with ranged weapons. Be a nice little synergy if it worked :)

Well that's the thing, phaser is two parts. The debuff on the enemy's side is counted as a melee attack, but the buff kicks in after that and is applied to your weapon. What I don't entirely know is how that bonus damage is treated. If it's left separate and considered to be damage from the phaser itself, I imagine it would continue to be treated as melee damage, but if it's modifying weapon damage instead it's probably considered the same type of damage as the weapon used instead. So there's (at least) 3 scenarios here:
1. Phaser damage is treated as an independent melee attack:
You use phaser, scheme is triggered, and you attack with a ranged weapon. Damage dealt is (phaser + scheme) melee damage and (weapon) ranged damage. Scheme is consumed as a melee attack has occurred.
2. Phaser damage is applied to the weapon:
You use phaser, scheme is triggered, and you attack with a ranged weapon. Damage dealt is (0) melee damage and (weapon + phaser) ranged damage. Scheme is not consumed as a melee attack has not occurred.
3. Phaser damage is considered skill damage (like a grenade):
You use phaser, scheme is triggered, and you attack with a ranged weapon. Damage dealt is (0) melee damage, (weapon) ranged damage, and (phaser) skill damage. Scheme is not consumed as a melee attack has not occurred.

I'll get some training hall stuff set up and try to do some testing to see if I can get any indication on if any of these are likely.

[Redlegoguy1]

Okay, here's what I've figured out from some testing:
It looks like phaser is split as follows:
Usage of the skill prompts a melee attack that causes a brief root and always deals exactly 1 damage. This damage is not considered to be part of phaser's damage so it does not scale, but the attack itself is considered melee. It also cannot benefit from scheme itself, which seems to only apply to melee weapon attacks specifically, not melee attacks in general.
Phaser's damage buff appears to be applied directly to the weapon. At this point some of this is semantics, but as it does not generate an independent damage number, it seems like the actual on hit damage of the weapon is being modified. Notably this is the only change, so the attack still retains all of its other properties, including damage type, regardless of the phaser boost, so ranged attacks boosted with phaser do not consume scheme.

So in the end the answer to your first question is no, phaser will not cause scheme to apply to a ranged attack. Here's how you can reproduce this if you'd like to see for yourself:

1. Take one ranged weapon, one melee weapon, and a phaser into the training hall specifically to the DPS dummy
2. Hit with the ranged weapon, wait for the reset and record the damage
3. Repeat step 2 with the melee weapon
4. Use phaser and hit with the ranged weapon, wait for the reset and record the damage
5. Repeat step 4 with the melee weapon
6. Repeat steps 4 and 5 with scheme on

At the end of that you should have six values, base, base + phaser, and base + phaser + scheme for both the melee and ranged weapon. You will notice that base + phaser and base + phaser + scheme will be the same for the ranged weapon, but not for the melee weapon.

Also you'll probably notice in the process that the ranged weapon will never consume scheme, with or without phaser involved.