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Tazor Oct 4, 2019 @ 3:46pm
Remove hand of the king
Or at least nerf the hell out of it.

Seriously. This entire ♥♥♥♥ing video game feels like a loading simulator until I get to that pathetic excuse for a boss.

Everything is a breeze. EVERYTHING. NOTHING CAN KILL ME. Except that "boss". What the ♥♥♥♥ is this bad joke. Just load the credits when you enter the throne room and kill him in a cutscene. Or make the rest of the game challenging so I don't feel like I'm killing brain cells for nothing.

Every run feels like a 1 hour chore to get 1 more try at the ♥♥♥♥er that simply face rolls me. I rarely parry him. He attacks super fast. Can reach almost the entire arena. Turrets barely do any damage to him, even though they are amazing against the other enemies and bosses. Getting close and spamming a melee weapon against this guy is suicide.

I think I will just save scum to kill him. I think that is how this rogue like video game is supposed to be played.
Last edited by Tazor; Oct 4, 2019 @ 3:47pm
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FlintX Oct 4, 2019 @ 3:59pm 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=etBufTl7slc
2 words for you my friend: "Git Gud"
Tazor Oct 4, 2019 @ 4:08pm 
Originally posted by FlintX:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=etBufTl7slc
2 words for you my friend: "Git Gud"
Yeah. I will go back to gitting gud. Just after I sit through a 1 hour long loading screen. That sounds fun. In order to get a few minutes trying to git gud. Reading is hard for you, I know.

This isn't Dark Souls where you can get to the part you are stuck on in a few minutes.
Phirestar Oct 4, 2019 @ 4:32pm 
There are a couple mods on the Steam Workshop that allow you to do boss rushes. Though I'm not sure if they've been updated for the latest versions of the game, unfortunately.

If the rest of the run leading up to The Hand feels that way for you, then Dead Cells might just not be for you. The vast, vast majority of playtime is spent there, especially with how high the deaths to wins ratio is in higher cell difficulties. (I'm pulling a win every 15 hours or so; it's ridiculously hard.)

Eventually he does become easier to kill, with enough time invested. And after nearly 500 hours, I wouldn't even rank him as the hardest overall. I have far more trouble with Conjucitivius, and The Time Keeper, whom can still kill me in one quick combo whenever she's at <15% health.
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FlintX Oct 4, 2019 @ 6:55pm 
Originally posted by Tazor:
Originally posted by FlintX:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=etBufTl7slc
2 words for you my friend: "Git Gud"
Yeah. I will go back to gitting gud. Just after I sit through a 1 hour long loading screen. That sounds fun. In order to get a few minutes trying to git gud. Reading is hard for you, I know.

This isn't Dark Souls where you can get to the part you are stuck on in a few minutes.

I'm sorry dude but you are only playing in the very easy mode so far. There are 5 more difficulties above the one you are currently playing, which also have content unlocked behind them. I don't want to ruin your fun but there are far worse enemies and things for you to worry. Hand of the King is the least of your problems and he doesn't needs a nerf or be removed.

By the looks of it you will not be able to beat the game in the easiest mode. I'm sorry, but If you are already struggling and raging this much then unfortunately this game is not for you, trust me. Unless of course, you keep trying and Git Gud. If not, go play Minecraft or something.
Bro you prolly have like 9 points in every stat when you face him, because you don't know how to build your character. Just learn his patterns or use Survival. That's it.
Spud Oct 5, 2019 @ 2:57am 
Ditto - I have finished ALL the bosses on every skill level and find the Timekeeper the most infuriating. its a cliche but git gud and specialise your builds - I started off a glass cannot tactics build guy and now I am a total convert shield man. There are tonnes of guides to the Hand and I recommend you look at a few and also use some decent mutations to prolong your experience with him so you can see his move set in real life. What are you playing it on as I would say on the switch quit and continue before you attempt him so the moment you die quit the game entirely from the home screen and you can immediately have another go with no hour before hand :)
Last edited by Spud; Oct 5, 2019 @ 3:32am
You are supposed to roll/parry, not facetank.
Um, If you find this game easy, it's because you're trying to brute force it. do a hitless run and it will help you with training for HOTK.
chelnov Oct 5, 2019 @ 5:27am 
You have to learn his patterns.
And be careful : his hits can have a very long range.

I beat him with a Brutality build in 5 BC, and he's not so difficult.

Try to put your scrolls in one stat : you will have less life but a lot of more dps.

Snaggle Oct 5, 2019 @ 1:17pm 
You're not going to like 1-5 boss cells fella. You mention Souls but go against pretty much everything those games teach you. Time for Cooking Mama ahead?
St0rmFury Oct 8, 2019 @ 9:12am 
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1660592897

Watch this video. You'll see that he's not actually super fast and all his moves are telegraphed. It's all about memorizing his moves.
Kokoa Oct 8, 2019 @ 9:24am 
Originally posted by Xx$HMIRKOxX:
Bro you prolly have like 9 points in every stat when you face him, because you don't know how to build your character. Just learn his patterns or use Survival. That's it.
"Just use Survival"
From the very first day when the Spite Sword was the ♥♥♥♥ to now, Full survival still is ez mode.

That is, if you dismiss the higher difficulties... :golem:

Good times.
Throwing Knife
Ice Crossbow
Wolf Trap
Double or Heavy Turret
Bonus with a good amulet (poison on dodge or when attacked or whatever)

Try to get deploy poison around trap for either the turret or, preferably, the wolf trap. +% dmg to poison damage and bleeding damage on the rest, frozen/slow also helps (since enemies are slow when thawed). Pierce first target is also deadly on both the knife and crossbow. These aren't required for 0C but obviously they help.

I usually go 2 in Brutality just for the HP, then mix Survival (about 5) and Tactics but go mostly Tactics (15+). Support mutation, Tranquility, Necromancy if you want a little extra healing as you melt mobs with this build.

Don't bother charging the crossbow, literally just spam x and y in the direction of enemies and you will absolutely melt them all and they usually can't fight back, and they will normally die faster than you can run out of ammo. If you do take a hit, you'll refill your HP pretty quick with Necro since getting hit should be rare. Also melts every boss like they're nothing, including HoK, especially combined with the traps/turret.

Not sure how good this is on higher than 1C but since I don't have much of anything else unlocked weapon wise (purposefully), I've been pretty consistently getting this build to chain-speedrun through the usual Cell farming run (P.Quarters -> Promenade -> Ossuary -> Bridge -> Village -> F.Sepulcher -> Clock Room -> Castle to HoK and loop all the way back to Bridge with the carried over cells from HoK - usually nets me around 70+ per boss [two time rooms, boss itself, some from enemies] which I can spend twice on the first loop, which then becomes 140+ [usually more] when I loop back to Bridge after HoK the first time, which translates to about 280+ Cells earned and spent on the forge every Concierge kill after the first run - 280+ [usually more] cells every 40 or so minutes) to get my forge upgraded.
Last edited by Ǵ̶͓̂͑lí̴̤̀̄́tcĥ̸; Oct 8, 2019 @ 11:34am
JHarlequin Oct 8, 2019 @ 12:54pm 
I dislike hand of the king and feel that several attacks have issues where they hit before they animate, but it is still a doable fight.

As for turrets and dots not doing anything to him, you may have learned about the boss features where damage has a max value that can be done to the boss. His max value is ridiculously low. To the point where you basically need a thousand small attacks, not one attack that hits for a thousand.
bobhome2 Oct 8, 2019 @ 4:07pm 
Originally posted by JHarlequin:
I dislike hand of the king and feel that several attacks have issues where they hit before they animate, but it is still a doable fight.

As for turrets and dots not doing anything to him, you may have learned about the boss features where damage has a max value that can be done to the boss. His max value is ridiculously low. To the point where you basically need a thousand small attacks, not one attack that hits for a thousand.

His standard lance attacks used to have incorrect attack warnings ("!"), but in recent times this seems to have been corrected.

I find the Hand to be moderately easy to parry now, where I would absolutely avoid it back in the old days.

Turrets often aren't very effective from the front, because of his ranged shield abilitites. But I often use poison on him, and he can become very easy with certain loadouts. But ranged is certainly a little tricky against him at times.
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