Cargo flights

[Lunacharsky]

Hello,

I have purchased real logos and real schedules, and also some extra airports. However, I never seem to get any cargo flights. For example, on Stuttgart Airport (EDDS), there is a big cargo hangar to the south of the air strip. I played the full 24 hours of the schedule, but not one single cargo plane appeared. Normally, Stuttgart should handle DHL cargo planes in real life...

Am I missing something?

[Simulation Station]

Originally posted by Lunacharsky:

Hello,

I have purchased real logos and real schedules, and also some extra airports. However, I never seem to get any cargo flights. For example, on Stuttgart Airport (EDDS), there is a big cargo hangar to the south of the air strip. I played the full 24 hours of the schedule, but not one single cargo plane appeared. Normally, Stuttgart should handle DHL cargo planes in real life...

Am I missing something?

You're not missing anything...Cargo planes in this game a very few and far between!

[EliGrim]

As Simulation Station has already mentioned, there are often not very many cargo flights included in the Real Traffic Schedules.
There don't seem to be any cargo flights scheduled at all for EDDS.

I'm afraid the only options you have is to either create your own schedule (here are some tools that can help with that: https://www.eligrim.de ) or use one of the two schedules from the community.
One option would be this one: https://forum.simflight.com/topic/86063-tower-3d3d-pro-custom-schedule-for-eddsstr-v20/

[Simulation Station]

Originally posted by EliGrim:

As Simulation Station has already mentioned, there are often not very many cargo flights included in the Real Traffic Schedules.
There don't seem to be any cargo flights scheduled at all for EDDS.

I'm afraid the only options you have is to either create your own schedule (here are some tools that can help with that: https://www.eligrim.de ) or use one of the two schedules from the community.
One option would be this one: https://forum.simflight.com/topic/86063-tower-3d3d-pro-custom-schedule-for-eddsstr-v20/

That's actually a great idea!

[Lunacharsky]

Originally posted by EliGrim:

As Simulation Station has already mentioned, there are often not very many cargo flights included in the Real Traffic Schedules.
There don't seem to be any cargo flights scheduled at all for EDDS.

I'm afraid the only options you have is to either create your own schedule (here are some tools that can help with that: https://www.eligrim.de ) or use one of the two schedules from the community.
One option would be this one: https://forum.simflight.com/topic/86063-tower-3d3d-pro-custom-schedule-for-eddsstr-v20/

Thanks for this, this is welcome. I've played two 24h-sessions on EDDS already, would be nice to make another.

I've used that schedule creator on eligrim already, but it didn't include any cargo flights. Are there any manuals on how to adapt it manually (I notice every flight has a line, so as soon as I know what codes for companies and airplane types, I could adjust it myself?)

[EliGrim]

Originally posted by Lunacharsky:

I've used that schedule creator on eligrim already, but it didn't include any cargo flights.

In the EDDS Real Color Pack, there is only one livery for a cargo airline that doesn't have very many flights to the airport. Therefore, cargo flights for EDDS are rather rare with Schedule Builder as well.

Originally posted by Lunacharsky:

Are there any manuals on how to adapt it manually (I notice every flight has a line, so as soon as I know what codes for companies and airplane types, I could adjust it myself?)

Information can be found in the official forum or on YouTube in a few videos.
Basically you can change all Real Traffic text files of an airport as long as you keep the formatting, i.e. commas, spaces.
Alternatively, you can use the Schedule Creator, which allows you to modify existing schedules or create your own schedules from scratch.
An introductory video on how to use Schedule Creator will be available in about two weeks under "Help".

[Lunacharsky]

Originally posted by EliGrim:

Originally posted by Lunacharsky:

I've used that schedule creator on eligrim already, but it didn't include any cargo flights.

In the EDDS Real Color Pack, there is only one livery for a cargo airline that doesn't have very many flights to the airport. Therefore, cargo flights for EDDS are rather rare with Schedule Builder as well.

Originally posted by Lunacharsky:

Are there any manuals on how to adapt it manually (I notice every flight has a line, so as soon as I know what codes for companies and airplane types, I could adjust it myself?)

Information can be found in the official forum or on YouTube in a few videos.
Basically you can change all Real Traffic text files of an airport as long as you keep the formatting, i.e. commas, spaces.
Alternatively, you can use the Schedule Creator, which allows you to modify existing schedules or create your own schedules from scratch.
An introductory video on how to use Schedule Creator will be available in about two weeks under "Help".

Do you know what airline it is? I put some DHL planes in, but indeed, they remain white, no liveries. Is there any way to get the correct liveries, to add it to the real colors file for that airport? I have other airports that have this airline (London Gatwick for instance), of which I have the real color addon as well. Anyway to use that on Stuttgart?

[mjbhgrampy]

https://forum.simflight.com/topic/85934-tower-3d-pro-real-colorsaircraft-master-list-by-airport/

[EliGrim]

Originally posted by Lunacharsky:

Do you know what airline it is?

ASL Airlines Ireland (ABR/AG)

Originally posted by Lunacharsky:

I put some DHL planes in, but indeed, they remain white [..] I have other airports that have this airline (London Gatwick for instance), of which I have the real color addon as well. Anyway to use that on Stuttgart?

Assuming you are using unmodified files from a recent Real Traffic installation, do the following...

Add this line to the file ..\Steam\steamapps\common\Tower 3D Pro\Extensions\Airfields\EDDS\edds_airlines.txt:

BCS, QY, EUROTRANS, European Air Transport Leipzig GmbH, Germany

Add these lines to edds_airplanes.txt:

A30F-ABF-AIRBUS INDUSTRIE A300-600F CARGO         -WIDE BODY JET
B75F-75F-BOEING 757-200F CARGO                    -NARROW BODY JET

Update line 6 of edds_terminal.txt:

Terminal_Cargo: BCS

Now you can add DHL Cargo flights to your EDDS schedule (edds_schedule.txt). Here are some examples...

ARRIVALS
BCS6705 (A300-600F) from Brussels to Stuttgart at 10:05 and
BCS6715 (B757-200F) from Paris to Stuttgart at 10:15:

BRU, STR, ABF, QY, 6705, 10:05, 12:00, 1, QY
CDG, STR, 75F, QY, 6715, 10:15, 12:00, 1, QY

DEPARTURES
BCS6725 (A300-600F) from Stuttgart to Amsterdam at 10:05 and
BCS6735 (B757-200F) from Stuttgart to Heathrow at 10:15:

STR, AMS, ABF, QY, 6725, 12:00, 10:05, 1, QY
STR, LHR, 75F, QY, 6735, 12:00, 10:15, 1, QY

The major operational bases of DHL Aviation in Europe are:

• BRU
  
• CPH
  
• CDG
  
• FRA
  
• LEJ
  
• BGY
  
• MXP
  
• AMS
  
• MAD
  
• VIT
  
• EMA
  
• LHR

(These are already included in edds_airports.txt.)

In the forum post that mjgrampy linked to, you will find an extremely useful spreadsheet that contains all the liveries of the RC packs with detailed information.

I hope this helps you.
If not, then you have to ask someone else!

EDIT: Since I don't own EDDS I couldn't check if there are gates resp. a/c stands at the cargo terminal/apron that allow an A30F, but I would be surprised if not. In the worst case you are limited to the B75F. (Both aircraft models have the yellow DHL livery in the EGLL RC pack for BCS.)

[Lunacharsky]

Originally posted by EliGrim:

EDIT: Since I don't own EDDS I couldn't check if there are gates resp. a/c stands at the cargo terminal/apron that allow an A30F, but I would be surprised if not. In the worst case you are limited to the B75F. (Both aircraft models have the yellow DHL livery in the EGLL RC pack for BCS.)

Thank you, that was indeed very helpful. Can I ask one more question then, to make things clear: does this mean that if you have a Real Color pack of another airport (so if I own EGLL in this case), you can use those airlines and their colors on other airports that don't have that airline in their color packs.

With other words: if I purchase EGLL (which I don't have yet), and I add a few lines with DHL flights at Stuttgart, they will show the yellow livery, even though the original Stuttgart airport hasn't got that livery in it's color pack?

[Lunacharsky]

Originally posted by Lunacharsky:

Originally posted by EliGrim:

EDIT: Since I don't own EDDS I couldn't check if there are gates resp. a/c stands at the cargo terminal/apron that allow an A30F, but I would be surprised if not. In the worst case you are limited to the B75F. (Both aircraft models have the yellow DHL livery in the EGLL RC pack for BCS.)

Thank you, that was indeed very helpful. Can I ask one more question then, to make things clear: does this mean that if you have a Real Color pack of another airport (so if I own EGLL in this case), you can use those airlines and their colors on other airports that don't have that airline in their color packs.

With other words: if I purchase EGLL (which I don't have yet), and I add a few lines with DHL flights at Stuttgart, they will show the yellow livery, even though the original Stuttgart airport hasn't got that livery in it's color pack?

I already got my answer: yes. I tested Royal Air Maroc on EDSS, and it worked. I guess I'll buy heathrow now :)