Derail Valley

Derail Valley

ShrillyVR Dec 5, 2024 @ 11:17am
Museum S282 Demonstrator train bugged?
i cannot start her up due to it blowing up after 6 bars of pressure consistently 10+ attempts, when 9 is needed to run her. and also seemed its electrical system isnt working either? yes shes oiled n filled with water, compress and dinamo opened too

Anyone else have this issue
Last edited by ShrillyVR; Dec 5, 2024 @ 9:28pm
Originally posted by superosh:
Should the "repair-state" not be printed below the name/number-plate of the loco ?
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Autocoach Dec 5, 2024 @ 12:23pm 
Hi , I few thoughts

Got water in it ?

So the boiler explodes ?

Have you started the dynamo for the electrics
Last edited by Autocoach; Dec 5, 2024 @ 12:23pm
Neon Samurai Dec 5, 2024 @ 12:23pm 
Did you properly fill it up before trying to start it, as it can take multiple refills of the tender with water to fill the boiler to operating levels and quite a lot of time. Make certain that the water gauge glass is at least 1/4 to preferably 1/2 filled before firing the first time.

Also make sure when you repair the steam engine that you oil all the bearings and manually pump the oil distributor before moving the engine&tender to fill with water and coal, or you will screw up the bearings and have to fix it again.
Last edited by Neon Samurai; Dec 5, 2024 @ 12:25pm
ShrillyVR Dec 5, 2024 @ 1:08pm 
Originally posted by Neon Samurai:
Did you properly fill it up before trying to start it, as it can take multiple refills of the tender with water to fill the boiler to operating levels and quite a lot of time. Make certain that the water gauge glass is at least 1/4 to preferably 1/2 filled before firing the first time.

Also make sure when you repair the steam engine that you oil all the bearings and manually pump the oil distributor before moving the engine&tender to fill with water and coal, or you will screw up the bearings and have to fix it again.

Yes, its blowing up in my water refill station in matter of fact, i also did the oiling process, full tender of water, and half of gauge for top of boiler of water, did exact same as friend did for start up on a world spawned normal s282, but his doesnt explode
Last edited by ShrillyVR; Dec 5, 2024 @ 1:09pm
ShrillyVR Dec 5, 2024 @ 2:13pm 
Originally posted by Autocoach:
Hi , I few thoughts

Got water in it ?

So the boiler explodes ?

Have you started the dynamo for the electrics
yes, water filled to half of meter thingy, dynamo set, all the time it explodes after hitting 6 bars. even with temperatures being at different points, 110,130, no matter what the consistent issue is it explodes at 6 bars

I've used a S282 before so i am somewhat familiar with how to start it up, but why is it exploding?
Last edited by ShrillyVR; Dec 5, 2024 @ 2:14pm
Course Dec 6, 2024 @ 3:54am 
My problem is similar; my machine is well lubricated, I have the water and coal tank full, but the water level gauge does not fill up even though I have the water valve open for quite some time. I have had it repaired, but everything is correct. Surely I'm missing something; does anyone have any ideas?
schutt Dec 6, 2024 @ 4:03am 
Again: 1 tender of water is not enough. You must fill the boiler untill the water lvl in the sight glass is visible. which is after more than 2 tenders full of water. Just let it fill, refill the tender, let it fill again, refill the tender again.
ShrillyVR Dec 6, 2024 @ 9:54am 
Originally posted by schutt:
Again: 1 tender of water is not enough. You must fill the boiler untill the water lvl in the sight glass is visible. which is after more than 2 tenders full of water. Just let it fill, refill the tender, let it fill again, refill the tender again.
again, i filled it with 3 tenders. i said the top of the boiler meter was halfway filled, that meter doesnt fill enless water is at THE TOP OF THE BOILER

So this doesnt solve my issue, so whats wrong with the demonstrator? why can i not start it

I keep temps under control, water is properly filled like you think it should be, stop thinking i didnt fill it. its filled with coal cause im using the gold shovel to make things easier. and every time, the pressure gauge goes past 6 bars, no matter what, BOOM even at 110c temps with the choker lowering it

Btw the dynami electrics were on after 3 bars, but the headlight wouldnt work. compressor was on too

As mentioned, a friend who uses the train often watched me do the same as he did. and is completely baffled that my train keeps exploding at 6 bars. he even made me double check every single thing, sometimes triple check, still went boom at 6 bars

Edit : Just tried it in desktop, still happened but instantly at 6.5 bars https://ibb.co/3CSZmtD as it exploded (the water gauge was half way on the hud)

now did it with normal s282 and it starts fine. its only my demonstrator also noticed my demonstrator isnt making the chugging or whatever sounds it makes as your halfway to 9 bars

Have a vid as well to show me starting it up, ofc i didnt turn on compressor or such yet but doesnt seem to change when i tried again after vid with those on, no steam, no lights working, nothing.

https://youtu.be/8WPjDN_cZBs KEEP IN MIND I MENTIONED i tried again after this vid with compressor and dynamo on and still explodes at 6.5-6.6 bars!
Last edited by ShrillyVR; Dec 6, 2024 @ 10:35am
superosh Dec 6, 2024 @ 10:49am 
I don't have this loco yet. But...just an idea:
Did you perform all needed repairs ? Is the repair-level at 100 percent ?
ShrillyVR Dec 6, 2024 @ 11:01am 
Originally posted by superosh:
I don't have this loco yet. But...just an idea:
Did you perform all needed repairs ? Is the repair-level at 100 percent ?
yes, it wouldnt let me do the painting stage till after repairs, she was freshly repaired all the way in fact, enless i have to check something but doubt its repairs, but i dont think she was damaged. but kept getting knocked around by the turn table weirdly, ill hop on and check rq

Edit : cant really check tbh, but i did fully repair and doubt shes damaged, just i have her in the repair bay now of museum and it wont recognize her

Wondering if the tutorial broke the train cause i ran that after fixing her to get a recap on how to start her up, cause i cannot be bothered to google it for some cringe 20 min video that could of been dumb'd down to 5 min or less (i doubt theres vids that long for training on it but whatever lol)
Last edited by ShrillyVR; Dec 6, 2024 @ 11:17am
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superosh Dec 6, 2024 @ 11:37am 
Should the "repair-state" not be printed below the name/number-plate of the loco ?
ShrillyVR Dec 6, 2024 @ 11:45am 
Originally posted by superosh:
Should the "repair-state" not be printed below the name/number-plate of the loco ?
huh, it appears the turn table DID in fact, break her, unfortunately shes 0 % and tender is 79%, and the repair station wont recognize her. i am so confused in what to do, thank you for pointing me to the source of the problem, now i just gotta solve another problem..

edit : shoved my dh4 into the mix and got it to fix the train! lets see if this time she starts

Alright she starts
Last edited by ShrillyVR; Dec 6, 2024 @ 11:55am
Biker Joe Dec 24, 2024 @ 11:57am 
How do you fill the s282 itself with water, I filled the tender and switched on
the injector but nothing happens? Is it bugged?
TheLostPenguin Dec 24, 2024 @ 12:42pm 
Originally posted by Biker Joe:
How do you fill the s282 itself with water, I filled the tender and switched on
the injector but nothing happens? Is it bugged?
If you mean the restored 282 for the first time, as already mentioned upthread it takes multiple tenders worth of water to fill the boiler enough to see the level in the sight glass.
If your tender water level is going down, just keep refilling until you see the level in the boiler.
Trombepis Dec 24, 2024 @ 1:16pm 
it doesn't explode if you have water in the sightglass, so report a bug through the pause menu of your unmodded save
Biker Joe Dec 24, 2024 @ 3:04pm 
Originally posted by TheLostPenguin:
Originally posted by Biker Joe:
How do you fill the s282 itself with water, I filled the tender and switched on
the injector but nothing happens? Is it bugged?
If you mean the restored 282 for the first time, as already mentioned upthread it takes multiple tenders worth of water to fill the boiler enough to see the level in the sight glass.
If your tender water level is going down, just keep refilling until you see the level in the boiler.

So am I going about it the right way, as in by turning the injector all the way, I have no idea how the S282 works, I tried doing the tutorial but for some reason it didn't load?
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