Only DE6 spawns anywhere

[skinnyraf]

For a week or so now, no locomotives with the exception of DE6 spawn anymore. I am on a circular clockwise tour and the last station where anything apart from DE6 spawned was Steel Mill. No DE2, no steamer in Farm, Oil Well Central or City Southwest. I know that spawning is random and depends on a spawning pool, but this looks more than just a coincidence.

My train is long and I'd rather detach the end and shunt the jobs using, well, the shunter, rather than fire up the local DE6 at each station.

[Rumble Truck™]

Peculiar, do you have any mods by chance? I know I've seen a single station only have DE6's but not every station on the map.

Have you checked by Forest South or some of the other "remote" locations? usually those have a DE2

[skinnyraf]

No, I need to get that 1100 tonnes transport to its destination first, though it may mean running three empty flatbeds with a de6 on the last leg of the journey.

[MagnusA]

I think some players bring their own 1-2 shunters in their train. Partly helping spot the setouts but also as some extra power en route if needed.

[skinnyraf]

That's what I wanted to do - but there were no shunters to bring with me at three consecutive stations.

[Autocoach]

For me I would always carry a couple of shunters in the train . If it were 2 x DE6 for power then they would be dead but if it were 1 x steamer then they would be running to provide extra power if required on a hill (and I use them for the train brake going downhill via the remote)

I believe that Oil Well Central is (always or normally) a DE6 and that both farm and City alternate DE6 or DE2 . So assuming 50:50 on those two alternating situations you had a 1 in 4 chance of 3 x DE6 .

[Tom Smith]

1 Mods?
2 Have you checked HB (Harbor)? I remembered there is always 1 DE2 in the power track, and round house always has at least 1 for all 3 types of locomotives, so there are always at least 2 DE2s in HB.
3 How many DE2s in your train? It seems like if there are too many DE2s in the station (usually in player's train), there will be less DE2s spawn in station, they usually spawn DE6 instead.

[skinnyraf]

I thought the City is always one De6 and one De2. I might be wrong though. So, you're saying I was just unlucky. Ok, let me check the Machine Factory.

[skinnyraf]

Oprindeligt skrevet af Tom Smith:

1 Mods?
2 Have you checked HB (Harbor)? I remembered there is always 1 DE2 in the power track, and round house always has at least 1 for all 3 types of locomotives, so there are always at least 2 DE2s in HB.
3 How many DE2s in your train? It seems like if there are too many DE2s in the station (usually in player's train), there will be less DE2s spawn in station, they usually spawn DE6 instead.

1. No mods, playing in VR.
2. No, I'm heading north now. I might take a harbour run after that, though if there are none in Machine Factory, Iron Mine or Food Factory, something's definitely off.
3. Just a single DE6. I wanted to couple in shunter to the back for convenience, but no luck.

[Altfuture]

If you have no mods, that must be just pure coincidence. In fact, in average the shunters have a higher chance to spawn than other two locomotive types.

[skinnyraf]

Ok, finally a single shunter in Machine Factory! And two De6. This means that over 4 stations (Farm, Oil Well, CSW and Machine Factory) 5 De6 spawned and just one De2. Perhaps there should be a tweak to the spawning rules, that ensures that at least one shunter is always present at larger stations?

[IZHN3000]

Oprindeligt skrevet af skinnyraf:

Perhaps there should be a tweak to the spawning rules, that ensures that at least one shunter is always present at larger stations?

No shunter, No Yard! ...Sorry, I'm just joking :)

However, shunters are an important part of the yards.
In the future, "S060" Steam Shunter, "DM3" Diesel Shunter, and "DH4" Diesel Road-Switcher will be implemented, and I personally expect that all of them will be attractive shunting locos.
I think it will be good system that one of these shunting locos always randomly spawn in each yards.
(I don't know if "Micro Shunter" will be useful for major shunting job.)

And, multiple main line locos will also be implemented, but I have no idea what kind of spawning system is good for main line locos.

[Alice Margatroid]

Oprindeligt skrevet af skinnyraf:

For a week or so now, no locomotives with the exception of DE6 spawn anymore. I am on a circular clockwise tour and the last station where anything apart from DE6 spawned was Steel Mill. No DE2, no steamer in Farm, Oil Well Central or City Southwest. I know that spawning is random and depends on a spawning pool, but this looks more than just a coincidence.

My train is long and I'd rather detach the end and shunt the jobs using, well, the shunter, rather than fire up the local DE6 at each station.

sometimes I run into a string of bad luck and only de6/sh262 spawn when I am trying for de2. however you can get better odds by checking some of the stations. steelmill, harbor, mechfactory, and goods factory all have multiple spawn spots and almost always spread out what they give you,

[IZHN3000]

Oprindeligt skrevet af Alice Margatroid:

sometimes I run into a string of bad luck and only de6/sh262 spawn when I am trying for de2. however you can get better odds by checking some of the stations. steelmill, harbor, mechfactory, and goods factory all have multiple spawn spots and almost always spread out what they give you,

Currently, there are only 3 types of locos, so there are almost no problems.

The problem comes when the number of loco types increases.
The devs have announced plans to implement 11 different types of locos. (Including passenger cars and crew vehicles.)
If all of this is completely random spawning, I guess it will be very difficult to find the loco you need.
It interferes with our choice of work so should be avoided too bad luck spawning.
(Of course, it is out of the question for electric locos and EMUs to spawn in non-electrified sections!)