Derail Valley

Derail Valley

Buzzzz Jul 7, 2023 @ 5:01am
Compass Bug: The Compass needle has a 180 degree error always
The red (Magnetic)needle on the compass is pointed in the wrong direction by 180 degrees.
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Talkingpeanut Jul 7, 2023 @ 5:44am 
A magnetic compass like the one in-game will always point North. If it's pointing at the W for example, that doesn't mean West, it just means North is that way
LTL King Jul 7, 2023 @ 6:50am 
The compass should turn to which direction your facing so you don't have to flip the direction in your mind.
A dashboard compass will rotate and only show you which direction your going.
https://prnt.sc/xwJHK5TVlmgF
Last edited by LTL King; Jul 7, 2023 @ 6:52am
Lloyd Jul 27, 2023 @ 2:24pm 
Originally posted by Talkingpeanut:
A magnetic compass like the one in-game will always point North. If it's pointing at the W for example, that doesn't mean West, it just means North is that way
are you sure? it seems that when you look at east or west the black side = it and then looking at north or south the red = it
Lloyd Jul 27, 2023 @ 2:27pm 
it should be if you look east the red dial with an N would be over it, as it does with south. at the moment the black one is over it which is incorrect. The gauge goes the wrong way when you turn
HuskyDynamics Jul 27, 2023 @ 2:52pm 
Originally posted by Lloyd:
it should be if you look east the red dial with an N would be over it, as it does with south. at the moment the black one is over it which is incorrect. The gauge goes the wrong way when you turn

I think you should check to make sure you're reading the compass correctly.

http://www.compassdude.com/compass-reading.php

In short, the red arrow always points north, so you rotate the compass so the N lines up with the arrow. Then you know which way you are facing (north), and which way you need to turn to face east/west/south. The arrow does not point to the direction on the compass face that matches the direction you are facing.

This is proper compass functionality and entirely intended, and the in-game compass works properly on my end.
Last edited by HuskyDynamics; Jul 27, 2023 @ 2:53pm
Hayes Jul 29, 2023 @ 7:05am 
I think the original poster generally understands how a compass works.. their issue was they mixed up the colours on the needle thinking black was supposed to point north and red south
schutt Jul 29, 2023 @ 11:38am 
There are diffrent types of compass, one is like the one in game and one is where you can hold it in an direction and read the direction of the compass (rotating disc). A lot of other games have a compass that can be pointed in some direction and then displays the direction its pointing at. Thats a diffrent type of compass.
Buzzzz Jul 29, 2023 @ 2:35pm 
The ingame compass just needs the ability to rotate the fixed compass card to align North with the needle. Then it won't be confusing.
Wiper Jul 29, 2023 @ 3:19pm 
The ingame compass works perfectly fine.
Like any real magnetic compass its needle (even marked with an "N" for North) always points to the north !
Its a 3d Game in a 3d World. I dont see a problem at all.
Buzzzz Jul 29, 2023 @ 3:58pm 
The problem is, that people assume the compass card under the needle is a reference, but it can't be unless you can rotate the compass to align north with the needle. Thats how this compass was used a few hundred years ago. This is why every single magnetic compass now, either has a compass card that rotates to Mag North or the fixed compass card under the rotating needle can be spun to align.
Wiper Jul 29, 2023 @ 5:34pm 
Originally posted by Buzz313TH:
The problem is, that people assume the compass card under the needle is a reference, but it can't be unless you can rotate the compass to align north with the needle. Thats how this compass was used a few hundred years ago. This is why every single magnetic compass now, either has a compass card that rotates to Mag North or the fixed compass card under the rotating needle can be spun to align.
Any magnetic part that pivots on a tip will point in north/south direction. That comes by basic law of physics, hundreds years ago as well as today and still will do the next hundred years I suspect.
If people have problems by assumptions based on modern technology they would be well advised to finally learn physics.
DV is very good and educative in this regard btw ;-)
Last edited by Wiper; Jul 29, 2023 @ 5:36pm
Mama Cel Jul 29, 2023 @ 5:47pm 
Originally posted by Buzz313TH:
The problem is, that people assume the compass card under the needle is a reference, but it can't be unless you can rotate the compass to align north with the needle. Thats how this compass was used a few hundred years ago. This is why every single magnetic compass now, either has a compass card that rotates to Mag North or the fixed compass card under the rotating needle can be spun to align.

I mean, you are right though. Normally, if I was holding this type of compass in the real world, I would just turn it so the N on the card lines up with the needle. But since you can't actually do that in this game without turning your whole body around, it can be a little misleading, especially for people who don't understand compasses in the first place. But even if you do, you still have to kinda visualize turning it in your head instead of being able to actually physically turn it in the game. It would be better if it had a rotating card with a fixed needle, I think.

So I guess the only thing wrong with the one in the game is that it's not a real physical compass, so you can't turn it to get the reference card to match the actual direction you are facing as one would expect to be able to do.

That being said, I don't usually use the compass in the game anyway, so it really hasn't presented a huge hindrance for me. But I can see why it would be if one relies upon it.
Last edited by Mama Cel; Jul 29, 2023 @ 5:49pm
schutt Jul 29, 2023 @ 6:00pm 
Ohh so the compass is good, but you should be able to rotate the compass in your hand... that makes sense. Could use the mouse wheel to rotate it, but thats not implemented.
Buzzzz Jul 29, 2023 @ 6:32pm 
Exactly.... And a really elegant solution would be to use the mouse wheel in pc mode or the trigger/thumbstick in VR to rotate the entire compass in your hand... But, I would rather the devs work on something more important..
Last edited by Buzzzz; Jul 29, 2023 @ 6:34pm
Buzzzz Jul 29, 2023 @ 7:50pm 
Originally posted by Akhenaera:
Originally posted by Buzz313TH:
The problem is, that people assume the compass card under the needle is a reference, but it can't be unless you can rotate the compass to align north with the needle. Thats how this compass was used a few hundred years ago. This is why every single magnetic compass now, either has a compass card that rotates to Mag North or the fixed compass card under the rotating needle can be spun to align.
So I guess the only thing wrong with the one in the game is that it's not a real physical compass, so you can't turn it to get the reference card to match the actual direction you are facing as one would expect to be able to do.

But you can rotate the compass with your hand controllers in VR. So it's really just a PC flat screen issue.
Last edited by Buzzzz; Jul 29, 2023 @ 7:51pm
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