Are Parents supposed to hunt for you?

[WinterWolf12]

I have stayed with my parents up to the point where I even starved and not once did they try to go out to hunt for us.

[Razkil]

Ah.. your parents survived? mine died before the 1 min mark lol

[Altairsky]

In my game, the only time when they didn't just freeze, they actually looked for lizards. When one parent found a lizard he/she started running in circles around it and waiting for you to kill and eat it.

[Shion]

Originally posted by LEOWinterWolf:

I have stayed with my parents up to the point where I even starved and not once did they try to go out to hunt for us.

No, they are not. Young dinosaurs are, by and large, precocial- able to look after their own needs right after they hatched. The very few possible exceptions- at least some hadrosaurids and maybe some ceratopsids- are not something we need to worry about at this time (and even then, the Triceratops hatchling is well past the point where it may have been altricial and dependent on its parents.

To sum it up, they are only tolerating your presence, and you in turn are profiting of their presence only inasmuch as they deter your own predators... and once you become a juvenile, they will join the ranks of your predators. Dakotaraptor is a particularly lousy parent, and not a very social animal if its relative Deinonychus, which is the behavioral model for Dakotaraptor, is anything to go by. This will be more apparent once climbing is in, since that will separate you from your parents even more as they will not be able to climb. You will yourself loose the ability as you grow older.

You need to find your own food, and your parents will not be above stealing your food if they are hungry. Fair warning.

[LivingMagala]

They do not hunt for YOU no, but sticking around has its benefits. You can eat your siblings, your big parents deter predators like acheroraptor, and when they hunt for themselves, you can scavenge whatever is left.

[Count Lazuli]

Originally posted by Garrus:

Originally posted by LEOWinterWolf:

I have stayed with my parents up to the point where I even starved and not once did they try to go out to hunt for us.

No, they are not. Young dinosaurs are, by and large, precocial- able to look after their own needs right after they hatched. The very few possible exceptions- at least some hadrosaurids and maybe some ceratopsids- are not something we need to worry about at this time (and even then, the Triceratops hatchling is well past the point where it may have been altricial and dependent on its parents.

To sum it up, they are only tolerating your presence, and you in turn are profiting of their presence only inasmuch as they deter your own predators... and once you become a juvenile, they will join the ranks of your predators. Dakotaraptor is a particularly lousy parent, and not a very social animal if its relative Deinonychus, which is the behavioral model for Dakotaraptor, is anything to go by. This will be more apparent once climbing is in, since that will separate you from your parents even more as they will not be able to climb. You will yourself loose the ability as you grow older.

You need to find your own food, and your parents will not be above stealing your food if they are hungry. Fair warning.

I read the Dinosaur descriptions on the site itself. Seems to me like father Tyrannosaurus are rather good parents to their few young. And correct me if I am wrong, but this behavior seems to be based on Emu fathers, which are highly protective of spawn until near adulthood.

[Shion]

Correct. We have an emu on the team, after all. ;) Tyrannosaurus is indeed planned to be one of the best parents in the game, but exactly how long it will look after its young is To Be Determined.

However, the babies are still developed enough to hunt their own prey- as is indicated to us by their skulls and teeth, which were adapted for hunting completely different prey than the adults. Nothing will be stopping you from sampling Dad's food, but the bulk of your food will probably come from your own hunts.

Do remember though, I was talking in particular regarding Dakotaraptor... which has the dubious honor of being the least social animal of the original four playables which will be implemented, and gives Ankylosaurus a real run for its money when it and Anzu are included.

[Count Lazuli]

Gerry, role model for dinosaurs everywhere.

[Thubz]

just kill ur brother/sister and eat him instead

[Bassilth]

In my case, there was little benefit to stay around them. Other raptors still chased me even if I run around my parents. I had to run through my mom and dad a couple of times until they registered that something was there and killed it.

Parents right now dont mean much if any protection at all. They dont seem to deter other predators. They still come biting you, despite you literally standing in momma' butt. And momma wont be biting them until you ran past her 10 times with your attacker tight on your heels.

[Gadzooks]

i normaly ditch the parents due to how many times they go full ♥♥♥♥♥♥ on getting stuck, stepped on by trikes/killed by rexs by standing there or swimming in 1 spot for the entire game untill crocs eat them..

played alot of the isle so im normaly one of those that leave the nest early and fend for yourself, survive longer for your first hours of gameplay. i see alot of people try to stick/leech their parents XD

[WinterWolf12]

ya I eventually gave up trying to stay with them, I managed to almost kill a pachy as a baby until a glitch caused me to go right under its head and killed me sending me through the map but all in all I got pretty good at catching lizards XD

[Gadzooks]

i still dislike how small crocs can 1shot an adult.. or after pouncing your slow af but the crocs instant turn like isles turn on circle mechanic - adult falls off slowly, and takes 10s to move after falling.. its honestly stupid for both reasons

even if it did grab a hold of someone, it would have only torn a limb off rather then instantly killing

[LivingMagala]

Originally posted by Gadzooks:

i still dislike how small crocs can 1shot an adult.. or after pouncing your slow af but the crocs instant turn like isles turn on circle mechanic - adult falls off slowly, and takes 10s to move after falling.. its honestly stupid for both reasons

even if it did grab a hold of someone, it would have only torn a limb off rather then instantly killing

The amount of energy that would be drained when a dakotaraptor hopped onto the back of an animal, remained balanced, and also killed said animal, would be immense. Modern predators expend a LOT of energy in a hunt, and often require hours of rest afterwards, so if anything, the rate of which stamina is restored is generous in this game. Also, you seem to underestimate the bite force of a crocodile and the durability of a dakotaraptor. Crocodilians are known for having incredibly powerful jaws, they literally set aside every other part of the body during their evolutionary development just to become living bear traps. Dromaeosaurs had remarkably fragile bones, and could have their spinal cord shattered with the whack of a wooden bat. So combine the bite force of a roughly 9 foot crocodile with a rather fragile skeleton, and yeah, it could totally kill a dakotaraptor in one well-placed bite. As for their turning radius, crocodiles are known for being able to whip around very quickly. If an animal attacks from a crocodile'ss backside, the croc can very easily whip around and bite back.

[Gadzooks]

i do not underestimate the bite force on crocs - im just going off about its size - a full grown adult being killed by a croc, i know what they can do with ours etc, can still say it seems a tad over done it.

heck id love to see what it does to the trike/pachy/rex later on, pachys are a little smaller then dakos but heck they can take more then 1 bite to die - wich is why im going on about it

[LivingMagala]

Originally posted by Gadzooks:

i do not underestimate the bite force on crocs - im just going off about its size - a full grown adult being killed by a croc, i know what they can do with ours etc, can still say it seems a tad over done it.

heck id love to see what it does to the trike/pachy/rex later on, pachys are a little smaller then dakos but heck they can take more then 1 bite to die - wich is why im going on about it

The size of an animal does not determine it's overall strength/durability. Stoats are tiny, and yet frequently hunt and kill rabbits much larger than them. Smaller animal does not equal weaker animal