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C03 2018年3月20日 11時35分
Wait, so... this is Rom?
So it's not like collection of console port, but a collections of roms? For $40?
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Florence 2018年5月30日 5時37分 
Sammy の投稿を引用：
Genuine question: Why don't the devs just ask the MAME devs if they can use their emulator in the re-release, rather than making their own emulator from scratch?

MAME is licensed under GPL 2.0, which can be undesirable for commercial products whose developers don't want to reveal their game's source code. There's also a matter of quality control; Digital Eclipse wouldn't be intimately familiar with MAME from head-to-toe if they licensed it, which could complicate matters if there are emulation issues that need addressing.
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Shirakani 2018年5月30日 5時40分 
Sammy の投稿を引用：
Great Duck の投稿を引用：
"Better than ROMs"
That's the legitamately awkward part of retro re-releases; you know the publisher's emulator won't be MAME or Higan-tier.
Genuine question: Why don't the devs just ask the MAME devs if they can use their emulator in the re-release, rather than making their own emulator from scratch?

MAME is free.

If they're going to use MAME in the re-release... why are we going to bother buying again?...
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Yoni Arousement 2018年7月16日 8時29分 
The ROMs are indeed not compressed, as I found Hex Values within the bundle files that are identical to the ROMs.
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Spiderman Is A Bootlicker 2018年7月16日 10時04分 
Don Sauce の投稿を引用：
Coleco_84 の投稿を引用：

For what we know, no training or versus modes on these games.

yes we know, it's been confirmed before and they confirmed it again today in the Capcom Unity stream that's going on right now on Twitch

you mean the savestate it resets to after the match is over? Training mode were I can't even see my inputs?
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Yoni Arousement 2018年7月16日 17時28分 
I give up. It's very well possible to write a tool capable of extracting the files. One thing I noticed is that 2nd Impact's mbundle's file size is very similar to the ROMs.
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Dacaskos 2018年7月16日 20時06分 
Yoni Arousement の投稿を引用：
I give up. It's very well possible to write a tool capable of extracting the files. One thing I noticed is that 2nd Impact's mbundle's file size is very similar to the ROMs.

There's one extractor already someone made...
https://github.com/WydD/sf30ac-extractor
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Dacaskos 2018年7月16日 20時16分 
On a side note... it's funny people complaining about this being emulation other than a direct port.
I don't have anything good to say about Digital Eclipse lazyness... but it would be pretty much impossible nowadays to port some of these games.
Probably Capcom themselves don't even have the sources anymore, and it would be too much of a hassle for nothing.

Emulation on this is "okay" and that's hard to achieve already. Netcode is great WHEN it works. Some of the last official home release of some of these games have 18+ years. It's definitely a good/okay product that COULD be a lot better if they were more respectful.

I won't ever buy anything that has "Digital Eclipse" on it again.
最近の変更はDacaskosが行いました; 2018年7月16日 20時17分
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Shingo 2018年8月5日 13時10分 
a lot of freeware ROMs contain viruses they are filthy. i better spend than use them.
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Redblaze27 2018年8月5日 15時43分 
Not really, but supporting the official release (when possible) is something I do believe in.
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Tom Cruise 2018年8月7日 11時26分 
They are providing you the ability to play these games online plus training mode. Everyone knew exactly what they were getting. It was advertised as the arcade roms and that's what you got.
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Funky McChicken 2018年8月16日 21時55分 
The main problem with this game is that only 4 of the games are playable online. Basically means that all the remaining games you may as well just get on emulation. The only reason anyone would buy this would be for the online capabilities. I've never used fightcade or GPPO as it doesn't really interest me as a purist. I don't have anything against anyone playing the games this way, but for something that requires milliseconds for inputs, I can't fathom dealing with emulation errors, frame losses and latency issues. I have many of the games original arcade boards and I do prefer the real thing but these days don't really have anyone in real life to play against. So I bought this game hoping the online would be top notch, but it is quite terrible. Good sometimes and terrible other times and also disappointing that games like Alpha 2 and 2nd Impact are not online. Now I can't even find a match. So this is where my disappointment with this game starts and ends.
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Phinx 2018年8月17日 3時51分 
Jeremy Beeston の投稿を引用：
The main problem with this game is that only 4 of the games are playable online. Basically means that all the remaining games you may as well just get on emulation. The only reason anyone would buy this would be for the online capabilities. I've never used fightcade or GPPO as it doesn't really interest me as a purist. I don't have anything against anyone playing the games this way, but for something that requires milliseconds for inputs, I can't fathom dealing with emulation errors, frame losses and latency issues. I have many of the games original arcade boards and I do prefer the real thing but these days don't really have anyone in real life to play against. So I bought this game hoping the online would be top notch, but it is quite terrible. Good sometimes and terrible other times and also disappointing that games like Alpha 2 and 2nd Impact are not online. Now I can't even find a match. So this is where my disappointment with this game starts and ends.

Emulation errors, frames losses? Those games are old school as. The average pc of today shouldn't be getting frame drops on a perfectly emulated game. Which all those games are.

Some emulators like Retroarc depending on console emulated. Does 0-2. Lower than any arcade or console. GGPO is the best netcode around. Guess KI's implementation with 90 fps roll back and input polling, etc. Took GGPO's netcode one step further. GGPO also allows you to add latency.

Fightcade 2 (which has GGPO) has input lag equal to Anniversary edition. So there aren't really any issues. Guess gotta wait for all Fightcade players to migrate.

I'm with you though. Buying it on day one, disappointed as hell. And finding almost no one by day 2.
最近の変更はPhinxが行いました; 2018年8月17日 4時03分
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rehtroboi37 2018年8月20日 4時52分 
Shingo の投稿を引用：
a lot of freeware ROMs contain viruses they are filthy. i better spend than use them.

Not only that but has anyone here missed what Nintendo has been doing lately with going after ROM sites?

I am okay with companies doing what they want as far as selling and repackaging their IP material. But it needs to be as good as, if not better, that freeware emulators.

But it's hard to complain about Digital Eclipse after years of watching DotEmu crap on classic properties after eating bowls of chili.

EDIT: Unless you count that they're only doing SNK 40AC on the Bait-and-Switch.
最近の変更はrehtroboi37が行いました; 2018年8月20日 4時52分
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