インターネット対戦のバグ(プレイヤーマッチ、オンラインロビーにて)

[丸投製麺]

プレイヤーマッチ、オンラインロビーでキャラクター選択画面に移行すると必ずクラッシュします。（マッチ相手もクラッシュする模様）関係あるかどうかはわかりませんがDLCの十兵衛は購入していません。修正お願いします。

[76561199296148149]

オンライン用のサーバー管理分のユーザーデータが壊れてる事に起因してるケースの話だと、パブリッシャーもArc System Works自体もスルーしてきてる。
このケースだと中途半端に動作可能なカタチでデータ化けしてる。多分ユーザーデータを通して参照させた先に問題があるとクラッシュする。

このケースじゃない事を祈ってるよ。

[Corn Liquor]

Try re-installing it. If your online profile is messed up I've seen them reset it upon request. You have to contact them and have it reset manually. The DLC doesn't effect anything like this. Buying it will not fix your problem.

Sorry for responding in English I'm not on my home computer. I can only respond in English at the moment.

[ほぼなーくん/Mkrv]

Originally posted by Corn Liquor:

Try re-installing it. If your online profile is messed up I've seen them reset it upon request. You have to contact them and have it reset manually. The DLC doesn't effect anything like this. Buying it will not fix your problem.

Sorry for responding in English I'm not on my home computer. I can only respond in English at the moment.

I'm a friend of his, and they told me that reinstalling it didn't fix it...

[Corn Liquor]

We need more information to help. What OS is he using? What kind of controller is he using? Yes the controller matters in this game. It has a wonky bug where it doesn't like Dinput/Playstation controllers. I've never seen it crash the game but it could be related.

Does it happen in local vs. mode? If not what does his local LAN look like? Is he behind a NAT? Is UPnP set-up correctly? Does he have problems in other games? I'm thinking it could be something like that because I'm assuming he doesn't get crashes in local vs. play.

IF it does happen in local play then what hardware is he using? Are the drivers up to date? Does he have problems with audio anywhere else in the game? Do the videos play when he starts it? Several things could be causing this if it's happening in local play unrelated to the game itself.

Did he install the improvement mod?

I personally run this game on two PCs: A windows 7 PC and a Linux PC using proton. I've never had it crash so I'm just taking shots in the dark.

The crashing could be related to his online profile being corrupted. In which case he needs to go to the D-card menu and see if he can edit it. If it crashes there you'll know. If that's the problem you'll need to contact the developers to do a reset on the online profile. Was he able to play online before or did this happen the first time he tried?

I'm responding in English because I'm away from my home LAN again and frankly my Japanese isn't that great. I'm working on kana and kanji again but it has been 15 years since I last used it seriously so I'm very rusty.

For what it's worth if you need someone to help debug it add me as a friend and I'll try to help you. I'll send you both friend requests. At the very least it would be useful to practicing Japanese. I'm embarrassed that I let it get this bad. I can barely read your names. I'd be lost on Japanese web if I tried reading it now. Sensei would be ashamed.

Edit: I found this thread

https://steamcommunity.com/app/586140/discussions/0/1744469130482734898/

Try the work around and see if it works. I've never run into this bug myself but it's probably just good luck on my part.

There is also this thread: https://steamcommunity.com/app/586140/discussions/0/4778901811095468763/

Where another person seems to be having the same problem. I've seen a few threads like this over the last year. All of them claimed it solved itself after they deleted their save file or they had to contact Arc System Works devs to reset their online profile.

If your friend uses twitter he can contact @Shini_Zack who I've seen on here before. He can reset your profile for you.

[76561199296148149]

D-Codeが編集出来るかどうかは簡易的なチェッカーでしかないよ。
ユーザーデータそのものがデータ化けしてる事を確認するわけじゃないから。
データ化けしてても、その数字を使って問題さえ無ければ正常かどうかを問わず処理は完了する。
プログラム側は異常を異常と認識出来るわけじゃない。全てがプログラムした通りに動作する。
だからヒューマンエラーのバグは面倒臭いんだけど。

この辺りの話は自分だけでもなかったので、直接Arc System Worksに話を持ち込んでみたんだけどね。柳に風、暖簾に腕押し、って感じだったよ。どうも修正以前に対応するつもりが無いらしい。だから自分の前にも後にも犠牲者が何人も居るんだろうけど。
そういやパブリッシャーが仕事しないとか聞いた気がするけど、それだけじゃなかったのか？
原因がD-Code（オンライン用ユーザーデータ）だった場合、こればっかりはオンラインの向こう側なのでユーザー側からは直接手が打てない。彼が述べた通り、伝えればリセットしてくれる。ユーザー側から任意でリセットさせてくれ、って事も伝えたんだけどねぇ……。
まぁあくまで"この辺りの話"なので。他の話は彼に聞いてくれ。

[Corn Liquor]

Originally posted by BK:

D-Codeが編集出来るかどうかは簡易的なチェッカーでしかないよ。
ユーザーデータそのものがデータ化けしてる事を確認するわけじゃないから。
データ化けしてても、その数字を使って問題さえ無ければ正常かどうかを問わず処理は完了する。
プログラム側は異常を異常と認識出来るわけじゃない。全てがプログラムした通りに動作する。
だからヒューマンエラーのバグは面倒臭いんだけど。

この辺りの話は自分だけでもなかったので、直接Arc System Worksに話を持ち込んでみたんだけどね。柳に風、暖簾に腕押し、って感じだったよ。どうも修正以前に対応するつもりが無いらしい。だから自分の前にも後にも犠牲者が何人も居るんだろうけど。
そういやパブリッシャーが仕事しないとか聞いた気がするけど、それだけじゃなかったのか？
原因がD-Code（オンライン用ユーザーデータ）だった場合、こればっかりはオンラインの向こう側なのでユーザー側からは直接手が打てない。彼が述べた通り、伝えればリセットしてくれる。ユーザー側から任意でリセットさせてくれ、って事も伝えたんだけどねぇ……。
まぁあくまで"この辺りの話"なので。他の話は彼に聞いてくれ。

From what it's worth: They've been very active about releasing updates and patches lately. The devs do come around here to the forums from time to time. So it shouldn't be too hard to contact them to get the profile reset.

I suspect they're going to release a new BB game soon. There is too much activity for an old game for them not to have something planned. I am not excited for it. Mori-san left the company which is a very bad sign. He didn't comment about it so that leads me to believe there was a disagreement. This game was supposed to be the last one so I suspect he's lost control over his creation and isn't happy about future plans.

I wish I could help you more. I encourage you to contact ArcSys however you can. Since you guys are in-country you should be able to call them or something. Hopefully it's easier for Japanese to get in contact with them than us gaijin.

If you ever get it fixed let me know. Roll-back netcode is good enough to have matches with Japanese players now. I play with people in Japan on fightcade all of the time and the games are tolerable. Of course I'm sure you're all accustomed to better ping times than us. I consider anything under 100ms to be good on this side of the ocean.

[Corn Liquor]

This is unrelated but I plan to reverse engineer the servers sometime next month. Just to be prepared for when they shut down the official ones. Soon there will be another option for playing online but I'm doing this in my free time so I have no ETA.

[ほぼなーくん/Mkrv]

D-codeは編集できました。
ランクマッチも動作します。
ただフレンドとランクマッチでしかマッチできないとなると実質談合なので避けたいですね

ネットワークマッチ自体は動作するようです
問題はプレマとロビー対戦のキャラクターセレクトにあると思うんだけど...
彼はよくクラッシュするとき、ImprovementMODは入れてなかったよ。現在は入れてるみたいだけど

D-code自体の破損となるとまだわかるけど
何故キャラクターセレクトでクラッシュするか
まるでわからん

D-code could be edited.
Rank-matching also works.
But if you can only match friends with ranked matches, it's practically collusion, so I'd like to avoid that.

Network match itself seems to work.
I think the problem lies in the character select for prema and lobby matches...
I didn't have ImprovementMOD on when he used to crash a lot. Now it looks like you have them in.

I can still understand if it's a corruption of the D-code itself.
Why would it crash in character select?
I have no idea.

By the way, my name on STEAM is Na-kun.
My friend's name is Yoshiki.
Translated with www.DeepL.com/Translator

[Corn Liquor]

Hello again,

I forgot that there is a dedicated page for bug reports and support. It's located here: https://store.steampowered.com/news/group/33025239/view/3053996429928684668

Which links to this support form where you can send an inquiry: https://arcsystemworks.com/support/

This should get a faster response than waiting for a developer to see this thread. I do not know why it would only crash for character select in one particular mode. One more thing you can try is verifying the game files. This is located under the game properties in your library.

Left click BlazBlue CF in library -> Properties -> Local Files -> Verify Integrity of Game Files (the last option). Re-installing should have done this but maybe you still have a bad file. It's worth a try.

I would not worry about playing with friends in ranked mode. Most people do not play ranked mode at all because it doesn't allow unlimited rematches. No one cares about the stats in-game anymore. Even when ranked was more popular people avoided it. Lobby mode is only really used to obtain the in-game items like avatars and room items. I've only played a lobby match one time and that was several years ago with a Japanese player before the netcode update.

I'm sorry I couldn't be of more help. I'll add you guys as friends soon. I would reach out to official support at the web page provided above. If you do not get a timely response call them. You are lucky enough to be in Japan so phone support is available to you. I have no idea what their phone number is but I'm sure you can easily find it listed somewhere. Call whatever they have listed as a public phone number and someone should be able to get you in contact with a developer.

[ほぼなーくん/Mkrv]

Originally posted by Corn Liquor:

Hello again,

I forgot that there is a dedicated page for bug reports and support. It's located here: https://store.steampowered.com/news/group/33025239/view/3053996429928684668

Which links to this support form where you can send an inquiry: https://arcsystemworks.com/support/

This should get a faster response than waiting for a developer to see this thread. I do not know why it would only crash for character select in one particular mode. One more thing you can try is verifying the game files. This is located under the game properties in your library.

Left click BlazBlue CF in library -> Properties -> Local Files -> Verify Integrity of Game Files (the last option). Re-installing should have done this but maybe you still have a bad file. It's worth a try.

I would not worry about playing with friends in ranked mode. Most people do not play ranked mode at all because it doesn't allow unlimited rematches. No one cares about the stats in-game anymore. Even when ranked was more popular people avoided it. Lobby mode is only really used to obtain the in-game items like avatars and room items. I've only played a lobby match one time and that was several years ago with a Japanese player before the netcode update.

I'm sorry I couldn't be of more help. I'll add you guys as friends soon. I would reach out to official support at the web page provided above. If you do not get a timely response call them. You are lucky enough to be in Japan so phone support is available to you. I have no idea what their phone number is but I'm sure you can easily find it listed somewhere. Call whatever they have listed as a public phone number and someone should be able to get you in contact with a developer.

一度、私が使っているPCで彼のアカウントを使いBBCFをプレイしました。（許可も得てます）
私のPCとアカウントでは、すべてが問題なく動作しました。ですが、彼のアカウントに変更するとランクマッチ以外のインターネットマッチ（キャラクター選択画面を介するもの）でクラッシュしました。（彼のPCで私のアカウントでプレイするとクラッシュしなかった）
やはりアカウントの問題？サポートを試してみます...協力してくれてありがとう！
Once I played BBCF using his account on my PC. (I even got his permission).
Everything worked fine on my PC and account. But when I changed to his account, it crashed in all internet matches (via the character select screen) except for ranked matches. (It didn't crash when I played on his PC with my account)
Is it still an account issue? I will try support... Thanks for your help!

[Corn Liquor]

Originally posted by なーくん/No.13:

Is it still an account issue? I will try support... Thanks for your help!

Yes he will need an account reset. His account is corrupted and a developer will have to reset it.